Looking for Tuberose and passiflora incarnata

NachtSpriteApril 27, 2014

Anyone know where I can find tuberose and passiflora incarnata. I tried looking online but many sites have gotten low ratings from Dave's Garden :(. I might start the maypop with smart seeds but would prefer the plant.

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TexasRanger10(7)

You might want to do a bit of research on Passiflora incarnata aka Maypop if you live on a lot in the city. It is incredibly vigorous (to put it mildly) & can spread into your neighbors yard & all over yours. I planted one years ago at another house & seriously regretted it the next year.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2014 at 4:14PM
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roselee z8b S.W. Texas

My experience with incarnata was the same as TexasRanger's, but I've found that Passiflora caerulea 'Blue Crown' to be much better behaved than incarnata. For me it blooms more too.

I could never keep the wonderfully fragrant tuberoses going to more than a year or at most two. Seems they get some sort of nematode, but others may have had better luck than me. One source recommended planting them in aged manure which kept the nematodes under control. Or beneficial nematodes may work though I've never tested them for tuberoses.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2014 at 4:28PM
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NachtSprite

I go out into my garden every day so I think I can manage it. I really enjoy being out. My "goldilocks" zone is small so I'm sure the tx sun would fry the leaves if it misbehaves :p. I want the incarnata because I want to use the leaves for tea. It makes for a wonderful sedative tea. I've heard that the other passifloras have cyanide.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2014 at 8:03PM
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TexasRanger10(7)

LOL! I am quite sure you can easily manage it with a good shovel since its favorite method of taking over ones property like The Borg is to spread by fast growing, deep underground runners that want to cover several square feet in a single season.

By the way, it likes sun, the further south, the better. I hear its better behaved further north....

Seriously, you might consider installing a barrier out of consideration so your neighbors don't have to deal with it too, if you have neighbors.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2014 at 9:58PM
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PKponder TX(7b)

You can come dig incarnata from my yard if you want. It's a gift from my neighbor :-) I have weekends off and live 11 miles north of Lake Worth. Nice soft sandy soil. I have shovels.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2014 at 11:54PM
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melvalena

If you absolutely have to have the incarnata I suggest you grow it in a LARGE pot that is _lifted way off the ground_ so you can cut any roots and runners that escape. Seriously you don't want to put this plant in the ground unless you are on acres and acres of land. It WILL NOT stay put and you'll have it everywhere.. including under the driveway across the alley into each of your neighbor's yards. They won't appreciate it as much as you do.

After one year I was very sorry I ever planted this one. We sold the house (not because of this plant) and I very carefully explained to the new owners the difference between it and the caerulea which I had also planted. I told them to round up the incarnata every place they find it.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2014 at 7:38AM
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NachtSprite

Hi melvena :)

Thanks for the warnings all. I guess I'll have it grow on my patio then. How large a pot would I need?

    Bookmark   April 28, 2014 at 8:37AM
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melvalena

It will take up what ever room you give it. Its always looking for a place to go. It never gives up until it dies. :) (think kudzu)

It will grow out the bottom of the pot and send runners so fast you'll be up nights worrying about it. Be sure to keep it lifted high enough you'll be able to see and get to those escaping roots and runners.

You can't set it down for longer than a moment, you turn your back on it and it will reach out and grab you. :)

Heck, maybe a huge huge hanging basket would be better? Maybe set something in concrete in the ground to hang it from? I know.. a lotta work for tea, huh? :)

Good luck with it.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2014 at 1:20PM
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marti8a

Sounds like trumpet vine which I thought I had totally killed off a couple of years ago and found a new sprout of it last week.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2014 at 1:26PM
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TexasRanger10(7)

I do believe that if you have a screened porch it'll happily grow right into the house, then when ya want a cup of tea, you can just grab some indoors because the plant outside will have all the leaves chomped off by Gulf Fritillary caterpillars. Your vine will be positively covered by these black crawling fuzzies.

Another asset is it will mark your sewer line for you so that if it ever needs to be dug up, you will know right where to dig. Plant one by the back door then just sit back & wait a year. I clocked the 60 or so new vines coming up at a rate of about 12" per week all the way to the alley. They look so lovely coming up all over the lawn but mowing easily keeps them from getting taller than 12" - 18" if you mow every week. Keep in mind they do grow a lot faster than your grass (you can actually sit & watch it grow) so forget that weed free lawn look.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2014 at 2:09PM
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roselee z8b S.W. Texas

Texasranger does not exaggerate on incarnata's exuberance to grow. At least not by much; depending on soil and climate

    Bookmark   April 28, 2014 at 2:28PM
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TexasRanger10(7)

OK roselee, the watching it grow part was a slight exaggeration, but only very slight.

Seriously, I read a post once from an elderly woman who had lost her husband previously & she had bamboo growing up into her back porch-- inside her house. She wrote in pleading & desperate wanting to know how to kill it or what she should do since it had taken over her whole backyard from her neighbors plant. It really does pay to find out about certain plants in advance, I felt so sorry for this woman, I couldn't get the thought of it out of my head.

I would not hesitate to do a late night Ninja clorox number on it if my neighbors insisted on planting either of these plants without a proper barrier.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2014 at 3:25PM
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cynthianovak

Are you in Arlington? I have passiflora incarnata incense popping up. I'll be pulling a number of them out. No thorns.

    Bookmark   May 1, 2014 at 12:52AM
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NachtSprite

I'm not in Arlington, but I'm willing to drive there. It is much closer than lake worth >.Thank you anyway pkponder :)

    Bookmark   May 2, 2014 at 6:49AM
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cynthianovak

Yes! 2pm or as late as 6pm. I am happy to fill a pot with babies for you. email me for directions...c

    Bookmark   May 3, 2014 at 11:44AM
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PKponder TX(7b)

I'm glad that you are getting passiflora :-)

    Bookmark   May 3, 2014 at 11:59AM
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NachtSprite

I have also found tuberose bulbs on sale at calloway's. Didn't look for them hard enough I guess. Thank you all for being so helpful :)

    Bookmark   May 3, 2014 at 2:23PM
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cynthianovak

NachtSprite
I received an email from you today and Sat. and have replied a total of 5 times 3 in direct response and 2 today through the email on this site. If you did not receive any of them I think it is because you may email me but I may not email you back because you have asked not to have you email available. I have a good amount of passi babies in a pot. Would love for you to have them, We need to figure out how to set the day and time. c

    Bookmark   May 6, 2014 at 12:05AM
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andbowen(7b/8a DFW TX)

North haven gardens had both the last time I was there.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2014 at 12:35AM
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weenerdogg(Zone 7b)

I would love to come dig some sometime if the offer applies. I'm poor but not too proud to dig! !!

    Bookmark   May 6, 2014 at 6:50PM
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PKponder TX(7b)

weenerdogg! Come get some from my yard! I have other stuff for you too. My email is active, send me a message!

Pam

    Bookmark   May 6, 2014 at 10:40PM
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cynthianovak

weenerdogg you are welcome to them. Email me I am in Arlington.....c

    Bookmark   May 7, 2014 at 12:48AM
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