Has anyone tried the Eliminator brand weed/grass killer at Wal-Mart? It looks to be about the same as RoundUp - only less expensive. Just wondering how it compares to the effects of RoundUp.
Not the same as Roundup, this is an entirely different herbicide with diquat as an active ingredient. No systemic action, either, meaning it won't travel into roots to kill perennial weeds.
Here is a link that might be useful: Extoxnet- Diquat
Actually the Eliminator Weed & Grass Killer does work systemically. It contains the same active ingredient as RoundUp. That chemical being Glyphosate and it only works systemically. Both companies buy the glyphosate from the same company (Monsanto). Recently RoundUp did add a second ingredient which gives a quicker burn of the top foilage but has no positive effect on the root. The downside to the quick Top Burn is if you burn it too quickly the plant will not be able to absorb the glyphosate down into the root system and the weed may return. And thats the facts.
I used this product according to directions on package and it DID NOT work at all. not even for the smallest weed. I will try and double the recommended amount of water per killer and let you know if it does work. But I purchased this product due to its price being LOWER than roundup. So from now on I will use roundup because I KNOW that product works every time!!
This herbicide works fine for me. A trick is to add hand dishwash soap to the solution after you've added the water to the spray tank. The soap is a surfactant that will better carry the herbicide through the leaves. It is the cheapest one I've found for the size and concentration but make sure to add the dishwash soap and you're golden.
DOES NOT WORK!!! I don't think I have ever bought a product that was completely and totally useless until now. I just hope I can get my money back.
If the manufacturer of the product properly formulated it there should be no reason to add anything, except maybe water as directed with a concentrate, Many places where glyphosates have been used are seeing genetic changes in lower order life forms.
Since most all unwanted plant growth can most often be controlled easily by mechanical methods, spending money on products that harm our environment is usually not a good idea.
Here is a link that might be useful: About controlling weeds
Eliminator Is a very good weed control . A little slower than Round up but the lower price more than offsets the higher price of Round up. I have been using Eliminator sense it came out and have no complaints
The label for Eliminator says it is 41% glyphosate, so the same as Round-up. However, you can sell the same herbicide cheaper by 1)not being the brand name. 2)Not adding the adjuvants that will make the herbicide the most effective.
Glyphosate should never be used in a metal sprayer, and high pH or dirty or high calcium (hard) water can degrade its effectiveness. It works best when it has a surfactant and some nitrogen with the spray mix. Thus, on a cheaper variety, a dab of detergent in the mix will be beneficial. If the spray beads up on the weeds and runs quickly, then you need surfactant. It should look like it is wetting the leaves like a good rain, but apply only a light mist. A little plant food in the water will also help.
Unless the manufacturer, or packager/seller, of a product gives directions to add a surfactant to the mix it should not be necessary and doing so may change the chemical structure of the product and render it ineffective. Spraying any product made to kill kill "weeds" is not an environmentally sound process and uses non renewable materials in the manufacture.
Keep in mind that since these products have become relatively common in the 1950's we have done more environmental destruction then in the previous 1900 years.
dont work at all nada ziltch..its been 2 days..must be pure water..makers of this product should be sued ....
it works but does not kill the roots it takes about a week to work add the soap
Used eliminator for three years works a little slow but weeds stay dead.(eliminator ready to use) From Wal Mart
I have been using this product via a plastic tank sprayer for 3 years and find it works very well on plant & shrub beds. It is much slower working than many others (1 week or so), but lasts longer.
What do you recommend for the elimination of water primrose?
I have been fighting this intruder for five years & every year it comes back & takes over the pond.
lost instructions ,how long berore rain can you spray?
I just used the weed and grass killer ready to use kind with the pump . Or at least tried to use it . The pump didn't work my ARM got tired from all the pumping. Finally cut a hole in it and poured it on. I will never buy anything from this company again...
I've been using the Eliminator concentrate for 5 years now and love it. I follow the instructions for tough weeds and use that strength on everything.
It kills everything I have sprayed.
The product is GREAT. I paid less than $15 at Walmart for a 32oz. bottle. I mixed 3 oz in a full 3 gallon sprayer. What impressed me was the area I sprayed with one pass from a moving atv (drive-bye). It is my first choice in weed control.
If anyone has found larger containers, that info would me appreciated.
I used it because I am one cheap SOB and it worked great. I sprayed around all they outbuildings on my farm and it killed the weeds for the enntire summer so I didn't have to mow close.
It appears that this product is inconsistant in it's content.
I normally use spectricide concentrate..but wal mart was out of stock so I bought eliminator concentrate.
I made it twice as strong as indicated and a week later all weeds are healthy. The same day I had used the last of my spectricide that remained in my sprayer and the weeds were dead in 2 days. the questions/comments web site does not work..probably too many complaints..this stuff is going back to wal mart!!!!
I made it twice as strong as indicated and a week later all weeds are healthy. The same day I had used the last of my spectricide that remained in my sprayer and the weeds were dead in 2 days.
It's because Spectracide has a fast-acting "knock down" herbicide that wilts the leaves almost immediately to make the homeowner happy.
Glyphosate has to be translocated to the roots and it kills the roots, causing the leaves to die. It's slower, but it's effective.
Keep in mind, while round-up was created by Monsanto, and Monsanto still manufactures it, the marketing rights were bought up by SMG (Scotts Miracle Gro) years ago. So when you buy a bottle of Round-up, the extra money just pays for the name.
"We are MonsantoÃ¢ÂÂs exclusive agent for the marketing and distribution of consumer RoundupÃÂ® non-selective herbicide products within the United States and other contractually specified countries." -Scotts 2011 Annual Report pg.28
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Here is a link that might be useful: Scotts Annual Report
The manager of our HD explained that he always mixes up his in a sprayer because they don't mix it strong enough pre-mixed.
Eliminator worked just fine for me at about 1/3 the cost of Roundup. For those who claim it doesn't work, the same job with Roundup won't work, either. The formulae are essentially the same. Expect widespread results in about 1 week if bottle instructions are followed.
The active ingrediant in this product is glyphosate, a product that Monsanto says is safe and the EPA parrots because they do not do any research themselves. This product is so safe that the EPA strongly suggests, and OSHA requires, long pants, long sleeved shirts, chemically impervious gloves, a respirator for mists (HEPA), and eye protection be worn when mixing and applying.
The Euorpean Union and Canadas Ontario Province have severely restricted the use of these products.
I purchased the huge big pump action spray container of Eliminator Weed and Grass killer at Walmart .... I JUST HOPE IT DOES NOT KILL ME! Container is not totally sealable to pressurize with the pump. It leaks all over at any joints/connections and to top it off the hose came off three times [at handle/sprayer location] soaking me with the chemical. Obviously the spray action was weak.
It is totally a piece of crap and a waste of my time. I should have bought the name brand to start with.
I agree, Eliminator Weed and Grass Killer is a waste of money. I purchased mine from Walmart, the pump would not pressurize, and when I finally got it to pressurize, it took forever to pumpup and then it leaked everywhere. I finally took the top off and poured the weed killer directly on my weeds. The weeds now look as if I feed them a fertilizer and they are doing better than my plants. What a waste of my money and time.
I live in N.E. Mississippi and I use Eliminator instead of roundup because I had bad luck with it. The Eliminator is slower acting, and it works best well into the hot months, Early spring, not so much, because the nights are too cool. read the label! It works on grasses and most weeds. However, on small tree saplings (sprouts and above) and saw briars and blackberry briars it stunts, but doesn't kill at the levels of mix they say to use on the label. I use 1.5 x to double the amount, and it kills very well. Hey, nothing today does what the old stuff would do. but that is the point of the new chemicals. So, we have to make do with what we have. Some friends have said to mix with diesel, but, that is not legal or environmentally friendly either. So, just realize, you kill what you can with these products, and just have to get out there and chop, cut, or weed eat the rest. I use a Saw type blade on my Sthil weed eater, and this beats a kaiser blade and especially a weedeater, because it makes a mist of the plants and slings it all over me, and I am allergic to poison Ivy etc so, I have to be diligent and do the cleaning regularly of those things the Chems don't kill. I've come to the realization, that you just have to do it, you don't have to like it. It's super hot in Miss in the summer. So I know it as well as any. Be safe!
My best results came from doing this. Night time temps must be averaging above 60 deg. and the hotter daytime the better. so here, around mid May to early June this year. Watch the weather, or Online radar, to see if it is going to rain that day. if not, then spray. Also, do it around the noon hour, a couple hours either way, so there is no dew on or about to fall on the weeds n grass. mix it double what they say on label. put in the poison first in the spray tank, then fill with water, and once the pump is screwed into it, and secure, you can also shake it, to keep the mix properly. also, as I carry it, I give it a shake every so often. I use a medium spray and wet the grass well, but I don't drench it. and I have great results.
I use Eliminator instead of roundup because I had bad luck with it. The Eliminator is slower acting
Read the labels and look up the active ingredients ... "Roundup" brand used to be just glyphosate. Then they added a "knockdown" herbicide to make weeds wilt quickly to keep homeowners happy.
"Eliminator" is plain glyphosate. Yes, it's slower acting, but it's way cheaper and patience doesn't cost me anything.