Early Girl...the deal

fireduck(10a)August 22, 2013

I grew my container Early Girls with a purpose in mind. I felt they would be early and reliable. That they were. My plan of primarily using them for salsa actually turned out right. The quality for eating "fresh" can best be described as "fair". I may grow them next year for the same purpose. What is your experience???

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sheltieche

mmm, not sure if I want to make salsa out of early tomatoes. I must have early tomatoes but those are for eating. Major cooking and canning happens for me later. But then I am zone 5 Chicago garden. I grew EG few years back and it was early and reliable, stopped growing because better varieties came along.

    Bookmark   August 22, 2013 at 9:33PM
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bettycbowen(7)

My first few were "fair" too but the flavor & texture got better as the season went along. They ended up tasting great.

    Bookmark   August 22, 2013 at 9:55PM
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carolyn137(z4/5 NY)

Early Girl has to be the CA state variety, I mean it.LOL

I grew it a couple of times here in the East,and never again.

There are some wonderful varieties that are early, bear well and have darn good taste for an early, but IMO Early Girl is not one of them. ( smile)

Carolyn, who was invited to Hortus Nursery in Pasadena, nolonger in business, for their Tomatomania weekend, and was earlygirled to death.LOL

    Bookmark   August 22, 2013 at 10:30PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

I just sliced an Early Girl.
First, It is not very juicy but otherwise tastes pretty good.
Sprinkle some salt, few drops of vinegar, It is very refreshing to me.
BTW, my EG has been producing since mid July, in abundance and she is loaded.

    Bookmark   August 22, 2013 at 11:08PM
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fireduck(10a)

as expected...there are differing views. I am not sure what an early tomato has to do with not cooking with them (actually salsa is not cooked). Anyway, it is always interesting to hear people's views. For slicing on a sandwich or eating out-of-hand, it does not compare in taste and juiciness to my Cherokee Purple or Brandywine.

    Bookmark   August 22, 2013 at 11:17PM
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qaguy

I grew them for many years before I found other varieties
that were just as early and with a lot more taste.

Haven't grown them for quite a few years now.

    Bookmark   August 24, 2013 at 1:08AM
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dickiefickle(5B Dousman,Wi.)

You stated "The quality for eating "fresh" can best be described as "fair". then this will be "fair" at best salsa There is far better toms than EG that rate better than fair try some

    Bookmark   August 24, 2013 at 3:51AM
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fireduck(10a)

D...I am not sure I agree with the above statement. Respectfully, I ask you to consider qualities that are desirable for different usages. The lip-smacking qualities of a good slicer might be a very poor choice as a cooking/paste tomato. As stated on the other tomato forum...salsa can easily become a juicy/watery mess. We all have tasted those.

    Bookmark   August 24, 2013 at 5:11PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Posted by qaguy Sunset 21/LosAngeles (My Page) on
Sat, Aug 24, 13 at 1:08

I grew them for many years before I found other varieties
that were just as early and with a lot more taste.
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Hi Gaguy,
I would appreciate it you tell us what you plant INSTEAD of EG ?
Thanks

    Bookmark   August 25, 2013 at 3:34AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Posted by lindalana z5 IL (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 22, 13 at 21:33

But then I am zone 5 Chicago garden. I grew EG few years back and it was early and reliable, stopped growing because better varieties came along.
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Hi Linalana,
I am also ain cool short season area.
Do you mind telling us what specific varietie you grow in place of EG, wit a DTM less than 54 days ??

    Bookmark   August 25, 2013 at 3:43AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Posted by carolyn137 z4/5 NY (My Page) on
Thu, Aug 22, 13 at 22:30

There are some wonderful varieties that are early, bear well and have darn good taste for an early, but IMO Early Girl is not one of them. ( smile)
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Carolyn,
would mind suggesting two or three with same DTM as EG, that is, in you opinion, superior to EG ?

Thanks in advance.

    Bookmark   August 25, 2013 at 3:47AM
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fireduck(10a)

OK...I have some thoughtful posts here....I totally get what some are saying (some not so much). Can I get a few recommendations for early/reliable tomatoes that would be a better taster? thankyou

    Bookmark   August 25, 2013 at 9:46AM
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sheltieche

I have grown a number of early cool climate varieties, like Oregon spring, Fireworks, SIletz, Stupice, Alaska, Silvery Fir tree and all of them tasted better to me than EG. I have a large list to try some more.
If you browse through Tatiana tomatobase website, she has lots of early varieties. Look for word èexcellent tasteè in description, it is bound to be great one LOL Carolyn also pointed me toward Caseyôs seeds and I got few more delightful ideas.

    Bookmark   August 25, 2013 at 10:54AM
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sheltieche

Seysonn, by mid July I had Amazon Chocolate and Paul Robeson ripe and they are out of this world tasty for me, love dark ones. I would consider tomato early if I can get them in my Chicago garden in June. I have been leaning more towards late tomatoes for last couple of years but decided that I just have to have tomatoes in June LOL
My current list of earlies for next year is
Jaune Flammee
Burshtyn
Matina
Kootenai
Kotlas
KImberley
Pink Flamingo
Siberian Gold king- Zolotoy korol
Siberskiy skorospeliy
Pearly pink orange
Beliy Naliv
Sashaôs Altai
Amber Colored
NewYorker
Mano
Minibel
Yaponskiy Karlik
Mohamed
Few of them dwarfs and few are det. so some will go into containers.

    Bookmark   August 25, 2013 at 6:23PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Thank U all for your lists.
But, I did not see /hear a familiar name (maybe Stupice).

My problem is that I cannot start from seed. Even if I could, then the seeds have to be available at the retailers. I am too lazy to shop around for a couple of seeds through internet stores. . I will keep my eyes open next spring to find some at the nurseries. But I have decided to GOT TO HAVE Sun Gold next season. I will be shooting for short DTM overall. Cooler weather friendly is also a plus.

NO MORE 90 DTM. it feels like eternity to me. hehe

    Bookmark   August 26, 2013 at 12:46AM
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qaguy

seysonn - I live in the Los Angeles area and I believe
that may make a difference,

That said, I've put in Momotaro and Lemon Boy as
replacements for EG.

After 3 years in a row of the replacements being ripe
first, I gave up on EG.

    Bookmark   August 26, 2013 at 3:20AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Thanks gaguy
I have heard those names (esp. momotaro).
I am going to do a research on it.

    Bookmark   August 26, 2013 at 4:01AM
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formerly_creativeguy

My vote for early season variety with good flavor would be Stupice. I experiment with an early variety or two every year, but my constant variety year in and year out is Stupice. I don't have the number at my fingertips, but I want to say Stupice is 56 days? Very prolific for me, so much so that I've decided to grow them in large quantity for canning in lieu of paste tomatoes. I get at least double the yield from the Stupice that I do with any of the roma varieties I've grown. My only complaint is about the size of Stupice... for some reason I devalue them a little when comparing them to the larger tomatoes I grow. Good flavor, not a great "slicer"... hence the reason why I think they'll make a conveniently sized canner for me. Also on the positive side... I like their shape more than other "cocktail" sized tomatoes. Slightly irregular shaped in appearance, not perfectly round. Makes for a more interesting presentation in salads and such. All this talk of tomatoes is making me hungry for one right now!

    Bookmark   August 26, 2013 at 1:25PM
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Coconut_Head(5b)

I like Stupice a lot also, though I haven't grown other early Varieties. When I started looking for an Early Variety two winters ago, Stupice was the one that kept showing up on everyones list. It's early, very good, and it produces an absolute truckload of tomatoes all season long. Great for drying, great for salsa, I would call it only OK as a canner/saucer because it is slightly juicier than ideal. Especially when you can grow something like Italian Heirloom and fill a sauce pot with 8 tomatoes and they are 95% meat and much drier.

CH

    Bookmark   August 26, 2013 at 2:36PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Thanks guys !

my research indicated stupice (from Chekoslavakia ?) has a DTM of 52 days, fruits are golf ball size ... good reviews.

So based on what I have heard and with your confirmation, I will try to plant it next season. Sun Gold is my other choice in addition.

    Bookmark   August 27, 2013 at 4:22AM
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riceke(Z8GASnellville)

Bush Beefsteak 6~8oz 62 dtm,
Early Wonder 6oz 55 dtm,
New Big Dwf. 8~12oz 62 dtm,
Matina 2~4oz 58 dtm,
Red Rocket 8~10oz 60 dtm
Siletz 10~12 oz, 52 dtm
506 Bush 6~8oz 62 dtm

    Bookmark   August 27, 2013 at 9:08AM
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sheltieche

Momotaro is midseason for me. It is a hybrid and I love it.

    Bookmark   August 27, 2013 at 12:27PM
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Stuffedcritter

If you really want to find out what taste and grows well in your area farmers market, produce stands, and walk around your neighborhood. Gardeners love to talk about their gardens some times they even share some of their growing secrets!

    Bookmark   August 28, 2013 at 7:38AM
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Stuffedcritter

If you really want to find out what taste and grows well in your area farmers market, produce stands, and walk around your neighborhood. Gardeners love to talk about their gardens some times they even share some of their growing secrets!

    Bookmark   August 28, 2013 at 7:39AM
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Stuffedcritter

If you really want to find out what taste and grows well in your area farmers market, produce stands, and walk around your neighborhood. Gardeners love to talk about their gardens some times they even share some of their growing secrets!

    Bookmark   August 28, 2013 at 7:54AM
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Stuffedcritter

If you really want to find out what taste and grows well in your area farmers market, produce stands, and walk around your neighborhood. Gardeners love to talk about their gardens some times they even share some of their growing secrets!

    Bookmark   August 28, 2013 at 8:00AM
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