Susan Eisenhower's endorsement

marquest(z5 PA)October 30, 2012

Has anyone seen Susan Eisenhower's endorsement?

As a result of this campaign I am more confused than ever about what Mitt Romney stands for. I know little of his core beliefs, if he even has any. No one seems to agree on what they are, and that's why I do not want to take a chance on finding out.

Given Romney's shifting positions, he can only be judged by the people with whom he surrounds himself. Many of them espouse yesterday's thinking on national defense and security, female/family reproductive rights, and the interplay of government and independent private enterprise. In this context,

Barack Obama represents the future, not that past.

The commentarry came back with his prediction as.....

Romney is Pliable, bendable, useable that the right-wing will use him and throw him in the hamper when they are done like they did Bush jr.

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esh_ga

As a result of this campaign I am more confused than ever about what Mitt Romney stands for. I know little of his core beliefs, if he even has any. No one seems to agree on what they are, and that's why I do not want to take a chance on finding out.

Thank goodness some people can see this. I think a lot more people think it but don't say it out loud.

Here is a link that might be useful: Her website

    Bookmark   October 30, 2012 at 8:38PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

Thanks esh. I forget to put the link when it is a new post.

He has all the Bush people on his team. It will be Bush two.

    Bookmark   October 30, 2012 at 8:40PM
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momj47(7A)

Good for her.

    Bookmark   October 30, 2012 at 9:26PM
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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Centrist Republicans - Powell and Eisenhower - endorsing centrist President Obama. This shouldn't cause the surprise that it does - a few prominent Republicans willing to break ranks with the neoconservative-religious zealot-cultural warrior-Norquist wing of the GOP.

We forget that the GOP was not always synonymous with bellicose extremists.

    Bookmark   October 30, 2012 at 9:33PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

When Norquist stood up and said all they needed was a man with enough digits to sign what they put in front of him would have made me angry if I was running as the President,

It makes it very clear why the Commentator said they would run him like Bush jr,

    Bookmark   October 30, 2012 at 9:49PM
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citywoman2012

I thought some of you said endorsements didn't really mean anything.

Who is Susan Eisenhower?

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 12:28AM
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marquest(z5 PA)

Who is Susan Eisenhower?

This is a joke right?

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 12:56AM
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greatgollymolly

Who is she? What news story has she been in lately that I missed? What does she do for the country that I missed? Why should I care who she is endorsing?

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:02AM
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littleonefb(zone 5, MA)

She's the granddaughter of Dwight D. Eisenhower. She left the Republican Party in 2008 and became an Independent and shortly thereafter went public with her endorsement for Obama.

Check out the link, and learn more about her and why she endorses Obama and left the Republican Party.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:44AM
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maddie_athome

He has all the Bush people on his team. It will be Bush two.

Including all the warmongers. Itching for another war. Good times, good times.

As Nancy said, they're Centrists endorsing a Centrist. Looks like there are still a few people left in the Republican Party with enough integrity to put their country first though Eisenhower left the Republican party a couple of years ago. I'm willing to bet that her grandfather would have done the same.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 2:00AM
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fouquieria(10b)

Who's Susan Eisenhower? Who's David Eisenhower? Who's Julie Nixon? Who's Tricky Dick Nixon? Who's Mamie Eisenhower? Who's Ike? Where's John Galt? Who's Ronald Reagan? Who's Howdy Doody? What's a President? Where's Benghazi?

-Ron-

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 2:08AM
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lily316(z5PA)

Seriously, who's Susan Eisenhower? So speaks the low information voter.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 2:45AM
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jmc01

The better question is....why should anyone care who a private citizen supports. And that's exactly what she is. On this one, I agree with ggm. You folks claim that celebrity doesn't matter. What double standards you practice!

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 4:04AM
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esh_ga

Well, I linked to her website, you could have read about her there if you don't know who she is.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 8:28AM
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momj47(7A)

She's not a celebrity, far from it.

If you don't know the family, take a moment to become informed before you post something ridiculous.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 8:44AM
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marquest(z5 PA)

The better question is....why should anyone care who a private citizen supports. And that's exactly what she is. On this one, I agree with ggm. You folks claim that celebrity doesn't matter. What double standards you practice!

The better question is ........Why ask that question

You folks claim celebrity doesn't matter. You have to decide if she is a celebrity if you are going to agree with ggm. She is either a celebrity or a private citizen to your knowledge as you present. Another question why do ggm/you assume she is a celebrity? None of you know her.

This is how some are so easily lead to believe every gossip conspiracy theory presented to them.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 9:10AM
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jillinnj

Are you freaking kidding me?

Talk about dumbing down America!!!!

You seriously had no idea who Susan Eisenhower is? The last name didn't give you a little clue? You couldn't click on the link to find out so you wouldn't embarass yourself? Google maybe? Anything so you wouldn't show your complete ignorance?

You must be the people Letterman or Leno run into on the street and ask questions of. I thought it was all a joke and fake, but apparently not!

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 9:35AM
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momj47(7A)

Not only do these people not know who she is, they seem incapable of making the logical connection from her last name. No critical thinking skills.

So much for late 20th Century education. Though these posters may be the product of religious education - you know - like "intelligent design" and happy slaves fighting for the Confederacy, social programs of the KKK and such.

Or they just didn't get the morning email about the Presidents of the last half of the 20th Century.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 9:53AM
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woodnymph2_gw

Clearly some posters either failed to attend history class or flunked the course. I'd be embarrassed if I'd asked "Who is Susan Eisenhauer."

Calling all Centrists, come out from wherever you are hiding; we need your sane take on our political system.

"I'm willing to bet her grandfather would have done the same." Maddie, spot on. It was Ike who warned of the future "military-industrial complex" to take all power over everything else in the U.S.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 10:13AM
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marshallz10(z9-10 CA)

Susan E. is a non-person, an apostate outside the pantheon of the Righteous Republican Base.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 10:14AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I think marshall may be right. Grand-daughters of Republican presidents don't exist in the eyes of today's t-partiers if they do not jump on the t-party bandwagon and throw louder tantrums than all the others.

Kate

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 10:31AM
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marquest(z5 PA)

Kate you are right, it is a very closed mind policy you are either with us or you do not exist. They are permitting their thinking to be mind controlled.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 10:42AM
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vgkg(Z-7)

Who is Susan Eisenhower?

Fox & Friends must be scratching their collective heads too....or they decided not to report it so you couldn't have a chance to decide?

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 11:30AM
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demifloyd(8)

Gee I thought she was Dwight Eisenhower's granddaughter.

I guess I could go look but since I am not influenced to vote by what someone else thinks, this pronouncement is of no significant to me.

Everyone puts their pants on one leg at a time.

Including Susan Eisenhower.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 11:34AM
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momj47(7A)

....including Mitt Romney and President Obama.

She is the granddaughter of a President and Five Star General: as Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in Europe; he had responsibility for planning and supervising the invasion of North Africa in Operation Torch in 1942-43 and the successful invasion of France and Germany in 1944-45, from the beaches of Normandy, maybe you read about it - D Day. In 1951, he became the first Supreme Commander of NATO.

Not an inconsequential change in political affiliation, unless of course, you don't agree with her, then it is inconsequential.

Sort of like FDR's family deciding to vote for Romney. The right wingnuts would be all over that.

FWIW - the Romney cousins who live in El Paso, TX are Democrats and will not be voting for their GOP cousin.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 12:09PM
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adoptedbyhounds

"Who is Susan Eisenhower?"

Turns out she's DDE's grand daughter. Divorced from her socialist husband some years ago. She must be important to somebody.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 12:12PM
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esh_ga

I don't care who she is; I just liked the way she said it.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 12:14PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

I don't care who she is; I just liked the way she said it.

Exactly!!! The reason for the post, Two reasons would be.... Not only her background and probably as I was raised and other have shared would be a political leaning party and especially if a prominent Family Member is a high ranking political official (President). It is interesting to see how they came to switching their predominant information flow.

Usually close members of your family are your development of your way of thinking as an adult. There are reason you switch and it was interesting the description of why she was supporting the President.

Maybe she is black and we do not know it.....that was the reason they said the last Republican was Supporting President Obama.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 12:41PM
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ninamarie(4Ont.)

It wasn't on FOX, therefore, it didn't happen = it wasn't on FOX, therefore it didn't matter.
And that's how people like cw brainwash themselves.
On the other hand, the United States has already elected a president because he was a celebrity. So, apparently, it matters.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:04PM
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demifloyd(8)

Barack Obama was elected because he was a "celebrity."

What's the difference?

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:07PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

Barack Obama was elected because he was a "celebrity."

I know Demi and because black people voted for him and because, and because, and because..

and.,,,,,,,DRUM ROLL.....He was the best choice between the candidates and it was Decided by the majority that he should be the President of the United States.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:13PM
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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Barack Obama was elected because he was a "celebrity."

Barack Obama was elected because he offered a better platform than McCain's. Don't underestimate the fear that the voters had of another four years of GOP/Bush policies, plus their disgust with the Iraq war and occupation. President Bush's fumbling re Katrina also played a part - that's when my loyal-Republican mother became angry with the Bush Administration and that anger lasted.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:23PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

I keep remembering Clinton saying....."We gave you a mess we made and you have not cleaned it up fast enough now give it back to us."

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:33PM
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demifloyd(8)

Oh, I agree with you why the nation did not want to elect another Republican, Nancy.

I still contend that the candidate Barack Obama won because he represented himself as, and accepted the mantle of "celebrity."

The swooning, the failure to vet, the lack of any stellar record...yep, this country elected a "celebrity."

And that's the performance we got.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:36PM
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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

I agree with you why the nation did not want to elect another Republican

If the country was in no mood to have another Republican administration, why insist on the 'celebrity' theory? The Democratic candidate - Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama - was going to be the next occupant of the White House given the negatives associated with the Republican Party. The nomination of Sarah Palin as Senator McCain's VP was an additional nail in the GOP coffin.

The disaster of George W. Bush's presidency is still evident in that the GOP does not mention his name during the 2012 election cycle. Nor is Mitt Romney vaunting his foreign policy advisers as the same neoconservatives that were associated with the Bush Administration.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:46PM
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demifloyd(8)

I think if not for Obama's "celebrity" and his race, Hilary Clinton would have been the nominee.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:49PM
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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

I think Barack Obama's nomination as presidential candidate had more to do with internal splits/alignments within the Democratic Party. Hillary was most certainly a celebrity in 2008.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:55PM
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demifloyd(8)

I don't think she was a celebrity at all in the same way that Barack Obama was considered a celebrity.

I didn't see people crying and swooning when Hilary spoke.

I didn't hear people saying their bills would be paid if Hilary were elected.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 1:57PM
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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

I still see the 2008 campaign as a struggle between the Clinton faction and the Kennedy allies. If Obama were the celebrity that you claim he was, there would have been no need for the Democratic Party heavyweights to publicly line up behind their chosen primary candidate.

There were compelling arguments made to back Hillary Clinton as the first woman president, and what that would accomplish for gender equality. As there were for Barack Obama and what his election could accomplish. In fact, there was little difference in platforms advanced by the two primary candidates, and so the arguments went to the second tier reasons - female v African American president.

I don't see celebrity entering the primary election at all. I don't watch television and don't see the snippets that pass for news, and am not sure what effect that would have had on primary voters who tend to be more of the party faithful and more likely to be informed on issues and candidates.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 2:10PM
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citywoman2012

The last name Eisenhower means something to me , yes.
I assumed SE was related (duh) but her endorsement meant
nothing to me because like I asked.............
who is Susan Eisenhower.

She did then in 2008? And now again?

Big whoop.
I know alot of Democrats who switched in 2012 and endorsed
Mitt Romney.

They didn't make the news with it because the last name wasn't Kennedy or Nixon or Carter but they were just as important.

One endorsement does not a President make.
:)

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 2:23PM
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ninamarie(4Ont.)

demi, I'm sorry you need me to spell it out. Americans elected Ronald Reagan because he was a celebrity.
Most people never even heard of Obama until he made his bid for election. That negates your "celebrity" theory.

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marquest(z5 PA)

One endorsement does not a President make.

Still do not understand? That is okay I know it takes a little critical thinking as I described above.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 2:57PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I saw the 2008 election as an embarrassment of riches--whether the Democrats picked Obama or Clinton, we had a winner! Their platforms were almost identical (and supported by the Democrats--and independents, it turned out, and quite a few Repubs, now that I think about it). So all that was left to decide is whether we wanted the first (part) black president or the first woman president.

Great choice! Though I must admit to disappointment that we didn't get first woman president as our first choice. but I'm delighted with our second choice--first (part) black president.

Kate

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 3:21PM
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lily316(z5PA)

Demi...and what about your celebrity, Ronald Reagan? Obama was an unknown. I saw him live twice and guess what...I saw no swooning or fainting. We were enthused, because you had an old man and the Wasilla hillbilly on your ticket.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 3:30PM
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demifloyd(8)

Ronald Reagan was a celebrity because of his previous profession.

Barack Obama was a celebrity because of his race combined with a presidential election and "hope and change."

One is a real celebrity, the other unproven.

By the way, your "book" reads, "you had an old man and the Wasilla hillbilly on your ticket."

My book has never said anything like that.

There are many other disparaging comments from "your book" about Palin, Christi, and Romney's physical appearance and I believe the word "detest," to describe your feelings about Romney, just in the last day or so.

My "book" has never said anything like that, either.

Just for the record.

"Projection--it ain't pretty, eh?"

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 4:17PM
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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

The phrase "Wasilla hillbillies" originated with the McCain campaign staff. The GOP owns that one.

If Barack Obama became a celebrity as the Democratic presidential candidate - and I don't agree with that assessment - the McCain/Palin ticket was the cause. He certainly wasn't a celebrity during the primaries.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 4:46PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

The phrase "Wasilla hillbillies" originated with the McCain campaign staff. The GOP owns that one.

Exactly, they were so angry that she embarrassed them. McCain had the wealthy classy image and she ran around acting like she had never been in a department store in her life. Her and her whole family. That is that new money attitude about "money". She is the face of the tea party so it is expected. The obsessed about money thing because they are not use to having any.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 5:26PM
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ann_t

Posted by citywoman2012 none (My Page) on
Sat, Oct 20, 12 at 2:47
Lee Iacocca endorses Mitt Romney
I was so pleased to read this. He is so respected and admired I'm sure his
endorsement will carry some voting weight.

"One endorsement does not make a president.:)"

I'm sure you are right CW.:)

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 5:28PM
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citywoman2012

You got me ann :) lol good job girl.

But you know that saying , it depends on which side
of the fence you are on for it to matter.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 5:45PM
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ann_t

I'm sorry CW. I couldn't resist. You are right :), which side of the fence really does make a difference.

~Ann

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 6:24PM
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greatgollymolly

You people are getting too easy. Of course I know who she is. Just making the point that her endorsement doesn't mean a whole lot except to have her poor grandfather flipping in his grave.

BTW, the minute Obama appeared on Oprah to annouce "he may" run, was all I needed to see to know he was a shoe in. Those Oprah fans would believe anything she told em, including to vote for an unknown with no experience and it looks like they did. Talk about your low information voter, voting on the endorsement of Oprah!!

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 6:50PM
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jerzeegirl(9)

Just making the point that her endorsement doesn't mean a whole lot except to have her poor grandfather flipping in his grave.

I doubt that. It was touch and go as to whether Eisenhower was going to run as a democrat or a republican. In those days people were kind of sensible.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 7:27PM
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greatgollymolly

Back then the parties were also a lot different then what they are today. Lincoln was a Republican. Back then Republicans were not accused by Democrats of being racist pigs like they are today.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 11:33PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Back then the Republican Party also did not include the Tea Party. A completely different party altogether. I doubt very much that President Lincoln would be happy to have someone like Mr. Romney associated with him. He had a great reputation for honesty and integrity.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2012 at 11:54PM
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lily316(z5PA)

President Lincoln could not get elected today by the Republicans. He'd have to run as a democrat. Remember he freed the slaves and there are some who never forgot that.

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jillinnj

Lincoln? We certainly don't have to go back that far for Republicans that couldn't get elected today because of the religious zealots and tea party. Reagan, Bush I could never get elected today as a Republican.

If you think your party hasn't changed, you are very mistaken. Unless one is a religious zealot that wants everyone to live by their bible, I don't understand how anyone can think it is still a party of good.

    Bookmark   November 1, 2012 at 8:43AM
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jodik_gw

Lily, the sick thing is... there are some who never FORGAVE that of Lincoln. That particular south will never rise again.

    Bookmark   November 1, 2012 at 9:00AM
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