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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

There are always folks who want something for nothing. I have been promised postage previously, but it never came, and I also got my name slurred after giving gifts to newbies. I will not trade unless the person wants to come here, and then if I have excess of what they want, then I will certainly share. I, for one, will not ship anymore in hopes of getting shipping costs.

Sorry for that vent, but having been taken advantage of previously several times, and trying to make a pension spread far enough, I won't have anything to do with it. I even had a person begging for material, and I felt sorry for them, and then I heard rumours that they were selling the items that I gave them. That can't be verified, but I have my suspicions, and it somewhat angers me. Furthermore, there is the issue of cross-border shipping. OMG.... $$$

    Bookmark     September 18, 2009 at 7:54PM
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teddahlia

Go to your local dahlia club and meet the people. They always have extras or the club has sales of tubers for really good prices. Wrong time of the year to get dahlias. Your message may get some responses in March, April or May.

    Bookmark     October 26, 2009 at 9:35PM
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indy76km(5 - Rumford, ME)

You guys are going to be horrified with what I did last year then! Someone gave me some dahlia tubers last fall. I knew absolutely zero about Dahlias or tubers. He gave them to me in a plastic grocery bag and I just put them in a spare room, in the bag on top of a box out in the open. They stayed that way for months until I moved to a new house in January. When I came accross them again I decided to look them up to learn more about them. I felt ashamed when I learned what care should go into storing them. After that I put them in a shoe box with some newspaper and crossed my fingers. I planted them in the spring and low and behold they grew! All the tubers I had srouted and produced beautiful blooms that you can see on the thread I started "my first dahlias". This year I took better care of them now that I know more.

    Bookmark     October 25, 2009 at 12:06AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Indy, sometimes ignorance really is bliss as in your bags of dahlias callously ignored in a lonely room. Now that you know more, and are trying to keep them they'll probably rot or dehydrate! Isn't that the way it goes??? I hope not, for your sake, but there's always something that can go wrong or go well. I hope the latter for you.

I remember being aghast to learn about storing in Saran Wrap and further violating the theory that moisture and darkness harbor all sorts of fungi and bacteria by storing those inside a plastic bin or styrofoam cooler. Same for plastic bags. It seemed contrary to all gardening common sense. But it does work, and works well in most cases.

I use both those methods now with coarse vermiculite or cedar shavings in the plastic bags. The storage media are really not expensive if bought in very large bags. Our feed store carries them both in ~4 cu ft bags that will last for a lot of seasons. The shavings are packed tightly and go a long way. They smell good too.

Bottom line is to use what works for you and suits your time and space constraints. But it never hurts to try something new. I've saved individual tubers in aluminum foil and even newspaper rolled up and taped, just to see how they'd do. They're growing in the garden right now.

    Bookmark     October 26, 2009 at 1:52PM
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plantlady2008

Wild guess on the white one- Snowbound. The picture on this link is yellower than any Snowbound that I've seen before- the form & size are right. I think Viking grows it so maybe he can have a look & compare.

Here is a link that might be useful: Snowbound

    Bookmark     October 25, 2009 at 7:05PM
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indy76km(5 - Rumford, ME)

I found one that looks like it at in a Dahlia catalog online. Could it be a "White Kelvin"? Snowbound does look like it but I'm not 100% convinced its a match. The petals look a little pointier than mine maybe? Mine really isn't as yellow as it looks it is just the way the picture came out. Actually it's white on the outside and more of a cream color in the middle.

Here is a link that might be useful: Endless Summer Farm - White Kelvin

    Bookmark     October 25, 2009 at 8:52PM
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jeannie7

Flowergirl, I'm a bit confused about the mention of "I planned to cut them up and wrap them in saran wrap".
In what way was that meant to be taken?

There is a method that is explained in the "Dahlia Society" website which entails removing all the tubers from the clump and wrapping them in saran wrap AFTER allowing them to dry out for a day or so.
Moisture should not be cocooned with the tuber as it can set up mildew over the span of storagetime.

I have yet to try this method....I shrink from removing the tubers from the clump considering the loss of 'eyes' will prevent their re-appearance next spring.
The clump that is uplifted I treat gingerly so as to protect all the tubers from falling or being knocked off.
I then allow a couple days of storage before they are given a peat moss cover and stored in my coldcellar where they remain cool, dark, and dry.

Shrivelling is part of the tuber's drying out and unless it shows signs of softeness, or mold, I trust it is in good shape for storage.

The time of digging is as you point out....letting the plant be touched by a killing frost which blackens the foliage. Then, all that is removed and the stem is cut back, except 6", serving as a good handle to lift them out when unearthed.

You use a refrigerator to store the tubers.....so I assume then you remove all from the clump, saran wrap them, then store them.

Question: have you had passed success with them doing this way?

The tubers that were planted last spring grew in numbers over the summer. What clump went into the ground at that time, is not the same size that came out. Do you not have large volume of tubers doing it this way---the refrigerator.

    Bookmark     October 22, 2009 at 3:21PM
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flowergirl70ks

Yes, I have used the saran wrap method before with good results. There is no way to wrap them up without cutting them up. I split the stems so as to have eyes for the tubers. Of course they multiply, I save the best looking ones and trade with my friend. This year I only had 13 to dig, so there won't be an overabundance of tubers to begin with. I am not blessed with a cold cellar, and it freezes in my garage. I was just amazed that they started to shrivel up so soon.Oh yes, I dust them with sulpher before I wrap them. The 13 I dug are all new ones. All the older ones I leave in the ground, cover the stems with heavy duty foil, and then mulch with grass clippings.I seldom loose any leaving them in the ground. The new ones I dig so I can trade. Thanks Poochella.

    Bookmark     October 22, 2009 at 6:58PM
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suzy123

I also order from Kevin. He is very busy and rarely returns my e-mails. I think he is busy getting the 2010 catalog out now. It should be ready any day. I ordered 30 dahlias last year and only 2 died. He always sends extras plants (cuttings), even on small orders, in case any of them die.

    Bookmark     October 18, 2009 at 12:09PM
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teddahlia

Many commercial dahlia nursery send extra tubers or plants with your order. They do this because they know that many people will have a tuber or two not grow. If you got an extra plant from Corralitos last year, you are probably only one plant down. Order more this year and note that fact on the order and he will make things right. Hint: Be sure to list what varieties you would like for your free one(s). Your wish may come true.

    Bookmark     October 21, 2009 at 7:25PM
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vikingcraftsman

Neather do I. Just thought you might be a woodworker like me. All though I don't turn pens. I make pen boxes though. It looks like frost for me tonight.

    Bookmark     October 15, 2009 at 10:55PM
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upwithdahlias(Colorado(Z4))

I really don't worry any longer about water in the stems. However, back when I fretted over making little foil caps or cutting at the nodes or pushing a screw drive down through the whole clump, I piked up a neat trick on another group from Buddy Dean at Hilltop Dahlias in North Carolina. His technique was to fill the open stem with the foam insulation that comes in an aerosol container.

    Bookmark     October 20, 2009 at 1:10AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

I can only recall what Steve W, formerly of FL and recently, if not currently, serving in Iraq posted years ago and that is that he cut back, dug, divided if wanted and let them 'rest' for about 6 weeks before replanting in your warm climate. Mulched, amended the sandy soil, and watered like crazy in your high heat. I have no idea when he did the digging. Perhaps you can search for other threads on growing in Florida by him or in general.

Thanks Steve W, for your service, for probably trying to grow dahlias in Baghdad, and possibly succeeding.

Here is a link that might be useful: Link on Growing in FL

    Bookmark     October 18, 2009 at 12:11AM
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pandy(10sFL)

Thanks Poochella :)

    Bookmark     October 19, 2009 at 10:58AM
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jesper1962

Hallo Dianne

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Good luck

Jesper

    Bookmark     October 14, 2009 at 3:50PM
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kwesiobruni

I store all of mine in a refrigerator. I have a fridge in the basement that is only for dahlias and I love it. I put them in ziplock bags with holes punched in them and cover the tubers with vermiculite. Then I just fill the fridge, one layer on each shelf. Every once in a while a little mold shows up but I don't lose many. I like it because they don't start growing until I am ready for them to.

    Bookmark     October 13, 2009 at 11:43PM
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cupshaped_roses(6)

No - It is better to store the tubers proberly, before it really gets cold. I clean mine and make sure they are dry before I put them in trays with coarse saw dust, in a unheated room in the basement.

But I do understand you want to pretend that summers last forever in Iowa - but reality check - soon you are goiing to be snowblowing your driveway again ...

You can however extend the season by starting the tubers indoor about 4-5 weeks before the last frost in your area and plant them out - this way you will have Dahlias blooming longer.

    Bookmark     October 13, 2009 at 11:23PM
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Missy, Traverse City, Mi Z5

Thanks poochella

    Bookmark     October 12, 2009 at 6:13PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

You're welcome but I misspoke: to edit your own member page, sign in, click on the lower "Member Pages" link in the Garden Web band at bottom of any page. Sorry.

    Bookmark     October 13, 2009 at 5:42PM
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drgulley(Zone 8 - Belton, TX)

That sounds great. Thanks Ryan!!! I will contact you in the spring then. Just out of curiosity, what state are you in? We have really early springs as a general rule here in the south but I know that's not the case for everyone.

Thanks,
Dianne

    Bookmark     October 12, 2009 at 8:03PM
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kwesiobruni

I am in Utah so our spring is usually not so early. I wish that were the case. Our winter is usually the thing that comes early.

    Bookmark     October 12, 2009 at 9:54PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Brrrr for you, Sherwood. I doubt a couple nights of freezing temps would get down deep enough to destroy the tubers. If they feel firm and skins are intact, they should be good.

Spring division is an option and easier to see eyes poking out. If you plant the whole clump you'll have many stalks, a bushier plant that is more difficult to support but with more flowers and tubers that keep right on reproducing underground making division even tougher as each year passes. Over time the flowers become weaker and fewer. It's really not that hard to divide every year or two. After that, it gets more challenging as the clump grows and tightens.

You can see examples of 1,2, and 5 yr clumps at the link below. Also photos identifying eyes and approximations on where to divide into single tubers. Practice, practice, practice makes it easy in no time at all.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dividing dahlia photos showing eyes/cuts

    Bookmark     October 10, 2009 at 10:03PM
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Sherwood Botsford(3a)

Thanks for the tip. That's what I'd figured. Looking at them there is no sign of weeping or bruising like you'd get from a frozen potatoe. They are drying a bit now. Tuesday I'll pick up some sulfur fungicide and store them up.

I ended up with a bumper crop. 3 milk crates of good sized tubers from a single packet of seed.

    Bookmark     October 12, 2009 at 6:34PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

Yup, it is getting to be that time sad to say. But without this we cannot have another start. Steve S.

    Bookmark     October 12, 2009 at 2:55PM
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Missy, Traverse City, Mi Z5

Where are you in Michigan? It seems a little early to be digging up the tubers . I am in mid-Michigan and my dahlias just got their first freeze last night. I am also confused regarding the mother tube. Below is a link from this site with pictures showing in great detail how to divide tubers.

Here is a link that might be useful: dahlia

    Bookmark     October 11, 2009 at 8:21PM
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