3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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ornata(London UK (8/9?))

For potted plants that I intend to place in the garden, I like to use dark containers (or paint them black) so that they disappear behind the foliage of other plants and aren't so visible in the border. But I love the idea of using anything and everything as a plant container (although I've managed to kill a couple of things by forgetting to drill drainage holes!)

    Bookmark     June 19, 2009 at 10:59AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

Hey, I have a brugmansia in a pot like that. However, I decided to bury the pot in the ground. Works well with the brugs, as I merely shovel prune the plant in the autumn when I bring them inside for the winter.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2009 at 9:49PM
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monet_g

Thanks so much. I'll pinch my Karmas at 4 sets of leaves. I certainly want to get the most out of this Dahlia season.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2009 at 7:47AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

Great advice, Poochella. I would have said exactly that.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2009 at 6:14PM
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sturgeonguy(5a ON)

Well, based on all the data I gathered last year:

It took an average of 42 days to go from a newly planted tuber to being able to take the first decent cutting (e.g. the sprout had > 3 sets of leaves.) The minimum was 28 days, the longest was 87 days.

It took an average of 124 days to go from cutting to first bloom (flower actually open fully.) The minimum was 73 days, the longest was 181 days.

I didn't use any fertilizer, just water from the lake for watering (which is pretty high in nutrients.)

My suggestion, just based on what I've read, would be to disbranch and disbud liberally. This might put all of the plant's energies into fewer flowers, which might help it bloom sooner.

You might also want to consider planting them in containers you can bring in in the fall. If they haven't bloomed and frost is nearing, you could bring them inside and put them in front of those windows you use in the spring. It wouldn't surprise me if you could get them to bloom once inside.

Best of luck!

Cheers,
Russ

    Bookmark     June 19, 2009 at 11:03AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

linnea56, you have nothing to lose by planting them. They will very likely come, and you will very probably have flowers before frost. Sturgeonguy has a good suggestions however, and it is something that I often do, in that planting in a large planter produces a nice result. If it does freeze, they are much easier to cover up, or bring in. While most of mine are in the ground, some of mine are in planters. I get to move them where I think there is a need for more colour.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2009 at 6:13PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Dahlias prefer a slightly acidic soil, so I wouldn't add any lime. I don't know how Earthboxes work, but you might consider adding water-holding polymers (i.e. Soilmoist) to the bottom few inches of soil where the roots will be. Containers need to be watered regularly.

Here is a link that might be useful: about soil and dahlias

    Bookmark     June 19, 2009 at 11:16AM
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emily06

Thank you, Poochella!! Your advice has helped me decide not to use dolomitic lime in my dahlia EBs, even though I paid for it LOL!!

    Bookmark     June 19, 2009 at 2:37PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

I hate those twisty stalks. You don't say how tall that one is, but maybe you could plant most of the twisty part underground and allow the end (hopefully, straighter) to remain outside to grow. Easier to stake and easier on the eyes too.

If that doesn't appeal to you, you can grow it twisty and hope it can be supported as is, or break it off and wait for the regrowth that almost always occurs. IMHO.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2009 at 6:39PM
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turquoise(5)

Burying it is a good idea. I had mounded up soil and then staked it, but I think I'll try to put more of under ground. They've both sprung up quite a bit, so I'm hoping it'll straighten out with a little help. Thanks for the suggestion!

    Bookmark     June 18, 2009 at 9:51AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

You might try Riverdance a cheerful red anemone with lots of early blooms. It gets taller than 3.5' for me though, and is a very broad plant that would require a strong stake for sure.

Raz Ma Taz is a small (

Nescio is also 3' or less and early to bloom. You can always try to get a jumpstart on your season by starting in pots.
Good luck!

    Bookmark     June 16, 2009 at 3:11PM
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tmac96(Z5, OH)

Wow, those look great Poochella! THANKS!

    Bookmark     June 17, 2009 at 8:58AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

When you say 'dead tubers' does that mean they're shriveled dry, rubbery, or rotten? If not, you could certainly put the tubers or clumps covered shallowly with barely damp soil, in sun, and see if that encourages sprouts. Some take a long time to show up, but this is pretty late not to see some signs of life.

I'd try that, before giving up completely.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2009 at 6:36PM
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oilpainter(3)

http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/cropprot/thrips.pdf

Check out the site above. Your problem may be thrips. At first I thought fungal disease but the leaves wouldn't be as healthy as they are.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2009 at 1:53AM
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corgicorner(Mass 6/7)

I can not give you any specific advise, but I do recommend that you go to the bottom of this page and click on the number 2 which will give you the next set of 30 messages. The third message down is "Dahlia Information" by me, corgicorner. This will lead you to information on the American Dahlia Society site, and I do recommend that you download it and read it, and keep it for future use. It is an excellent aarticle from a reliable source.
I hope you become more acquainted with dahlias, and get to enjoy them, and share them with others.

    Bookmark     June 15, 2009 at 8:58PM
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pdshop(5)

It is raining today so I was thinking of you jroot. There is nothing more depressing than to have the drabness go on and on and on. There is so much work to be done this time of year. Now I live in MA. so we needed the rain, but I hope you have finally got some good weather. What do all the people in your area do with the high rental fees, when it rains. Not good

    Bookmark     June 9, 2009 at 11:25AM
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homemommy

Weather has been ok today in Southern Ontario... I can't wait to have more like it! I hope we are at the end of this cold spell! although I have had may dahlias out for weeks now and they are holding their own, the are not growing at all!!

    Bookmark     June 10, 2009 at 11:18PM
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j_nail(5 Eastern WA)

Yeah, I should know better...although after hearing "rain" & "thunderstorms" in the forecast for over a week I got a little excited!

Finally woke up to the much needed rain this morning though! Of course this came after I finally broke down and chased the sprinklers around yesterday, therefore putting off collecting flowers to press until today because they were wet. Well, now they are most definitely too wet!

My house should love me by the end of the day, since I must now keep warm by doing housework! Nothing better than having the doors flung wide open, with the rain as my stereo while I scrub everything down!

    Bookmark     June 8, 2009 at 12:49PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

j_nail Gfrom the wet side of WA- except for this year. By far, the driest planting year ever for me. Having to water dahlias in May/June in my area is a real twist on the usual hoping they don't rot.

Enjoy your moisture and warm days to follow.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2009 at 1:17PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

There are various hardiness zone maps out there. The link below is to one.
You are definitely in the have-to-dig zone in Vermont and have done the right thing by digging and storing each year.

Here is a link that might be useful: hardiness zone map for NE U.S.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2009 at 1:14PM
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loswan(7)

I'm almost psoitive I have 5 new growths but I'm curious, do Dahlias grow as single leaves from the main stem or can they grow many leaves from the main stem? I know that I have two growing single leaf and I'm not too sure if the plants sprouting multiple leaf from main stem are Dahlias also, however the main stem and leaves look very much alike.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2009 at 6:24PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

loswan, they usually have opposing leaf pairs on either side of the stalk/s that emerge from the tuber, clump, or cutting. Leaf nodes will give rise to laterals right at the stalk junction and send out branches from which your flowers will come.

I'd let your leaves go on to develop a bit and see if they are truly dahlias or something else.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2009 at 9:09PM
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mcfingon(4b)

Double Trouble does look like a very good possibility.

Here is a link that might be useful: Photography and Gardening blog

    Bookmark     May 31, 2009 at 8:34PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Swan Island Dahlias sell Double Trouble in a collection. A

Here is a link that might be useful: Collection

    Bookmark     May 31, 2009 at 8:59PM
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cotodahliagirl

Hi there, actually Dahlia's need LOW nitrogen fertilizer. I don't know what to tell you to do. I will leave that to someone else on the forum. You can go to the site
www.dahlias.net to read more about growing dahlias.Look under care and culture.
april

    Bookmark     May 29, 2009 at 1:16PM
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