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teddahlia

For several years, nurseries have been selling small "bedding" type dahlias. They are grown from seeds and the flowers are bright but are not comparable to dahlias grown from tubers or cuttings. They will make some tubers and can easily be dug and planted the next year. However, as they say you get what you pay for. Some other "bedding" type dahlias are grown from cuttings and are actual named varieties from Holland. Examples are the Karma and Gallery series. They are about 24 inches tall and have very nice flowers that are very much like the picture on the tag. They too will make some tubers and can be dug and saved over for another year. Swan Island and other nurseries sell tubers of low growing varieties and they really do well also.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2009 at 6:26PM
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posy_pet(z6Mo.)

I grew the small dahlias from seed for a few years and dug and saved and planted them the next year.I thought they were very pretty until my daughter in law gave me a few of the better ones.Now I order the nicer ones.Posy Pet

    Bookmark     May 5, 2009 at 7:21PM
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Noni Morrison

Unless the ground froze to the depth the tubers were planted at they should be fine! Hopefully the snow was a blanket that insulated the ground.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2009 at 12:47PM
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homemommy

I would not leave them out yet. 36 is too close to freezing. I have a few days right around freezing that killed brand new store bought, very healthy and large tubers. Not a single scrap of tuber to be salveged!

All it took was one night to ruin my tubers!

What I would do, is watch the weather closely, put them out during the day, this will save you window space / lighting space indoors. Let them bask in the sun all day (gradually work them into the sun). But, you are going to need to bring them in during the night for nights forecasted below 45. Not fun, but important.

Better safe then sorry.

    Bookmark     April 26, 2009 at 9:25AM
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alaskawoman

I am in the process of hardening off my dahlia seedlings and I appreciate all this good advice! Thank you.

    Bookmark     April 30, 2009 at 5:24PM
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manifest(USDA 11a, Sunset 24, CA)

Dahlias come from Mexico, don't they? I imagine that other than losing color in their blooms from too much sun, they can take heat.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2009 at 9:24PM
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cotodahliagirl

I agree, I live inland Southern california where it is 95-100 degrees for three months straight and my Dahlia's thrive in it. I do have to be careful not to get the leaves wet,I had a bad case of powdery mildew last year which I could not get rid of.

    Bookmark     April 27, 2009 at 7:32PM
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monet_g

Another thought - I purchased a "Black Cat" tuber that was marked as a Karma. I am actually hoping it's not a Karma, but rather the semi-cactus type that is better known. Does anyone know it there is a Karma "Black Cat"? I searched and can't find it anywhere.

    Bookmark     April 27, 2009 at 12:39PM
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monet_g

I would got for it and hope for success. If you're really concerned about a great Dahlia show this year, you could purchase a few more just in case. In my area, a couple of the dahlia societies are holding their tuber sales now - decent selection for a good price. The Colorado Dahlia Society holds a link to a listing of sales.

    Bookmark     April 27, 2009 at 10:07AM
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plantlady2008

I'd change the soil, too. You don't want to keep the soil from the ones that turned black or it'll just make the next new growth rot as well. Did you use garden soil or sterile potting soil to start them? The reason I ask is because there was a soil blight- I can't remember the name of it off hand- around a couple of years ago & plants that came up & were doing great just all of a sudden rotted off at the soil line. There was quite a few gardeners in the midwest & east that were affected. There was a lively discussion on the dahlia net about it at the time as it was something that few people had had before.

    Bookmark     April 27, 2009 at 12:21AM
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monet_g

I did use MG with the thought that it's sterile, however, the bag does not state it is. Thanks for the tip, I will change out the soil. If was sterile before, it probably isn't now!

    Bookmark     April 27, 2009 at 9:01AM
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monet_g

I would also suggest putting them into pots. If you wanted to you could plant the pots into the ground as long as its understood that you will be taking them with you (good point, homemommy).

    Bookmark     April 26, 2009 at 9:45AM
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plantlady2008

I agree- plant in pots or the wire baskets- but after you cut them down in July don't take them out of the baskets- lift the whole thing & take it w/ you soil & all. They will resprout & you'll have a better chance of getting tubers for next year if you let them grow all summer. When we're culling new seedings we cut them off at the ground & they always drive us crazy by coming back w/ more growth when we don't want them to- they're very determined plants!

    Bookmark     April 27, 2009 at 12:41AM
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plantlady2008

Some people use ziplock bags to store in so it would probably work the same way as the saran wrap. We had "rotten" luck (pun intended) when I used saran wrap so don't use any plastics at all.

    Bookmark     April 27, 2009 at 12:28AM
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plantlady2008

1- Yes- pinch it back- take out the growing tip--that's called "topping" & will result in a bushier plant with more laterals. This is a "good thing". They will still reach their full height. When you plant out you can plant deeper than they are in the pot to give them exrta stability (like you can do with tomatoes). Be sure to pound in a stake when you plant so you don't damage the tuber putting it in later.
2- yes there is an advantage especially with the AA & A sized dahlias. One good thick sturdy stem as opposed to 2 not so sturdy stems is the result. You can let the laterals grow from this stem & you'll get bigger blooms & more of them. They're also easier to tie up if there's just one stem & it's laterals instead of 2 to get in each other's way. Go to the Colorado Dahlia Society site & look up the part on topping, debranching & disbudding- It's under Dahlia Care & Culture-- lots of good info & pictures to help you along.
If you want you can make a cutting out of the pinched off stem & get another plant for your money!

Here is a link that might be useful: Colorado Dahlia Society Site

    Bookmark     April 27, 2009 at 12:11AM
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homemommy

I was given some rather depressing tubers last fall, very shriveled and rubbery!! Still, I managed to prep them for storage and some of them have produced some very healthy cuttings for me... I had about 15 tubers, I had 4 survive, now have 20 rooted cuttings / plants!!

So I know first hand that shriveled does not mean hopeless!

Considering the time of year, I would perhaps treat them with an anti fungal / perhaps put them in a 10% bleach bath for 20 minutes, then pot them up and allow them to start growing!! Even if they are kept indoors on a (south facing preferably) window ledge, they should be fine. Don't plant them out too early though! Even one night of freezing temps will kill them. I learned that this year too the hard way with my store bought tubers!!

    Bookmark     April 26, 2009 at 9:17AM
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anna_in_quebec(z4 QC)

Just pot them up and place near a well-lit window - the white shoots will green up in no time, so don't remove them. My over-wintered dahlias in the basement are showing exactly such sprouts, and I will be potting them up soon - this also gives them a head start, and therefore earlier blooms!

    Bookmark     April 16, 2009 at 2:13PM
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roxy_girl(7b Weatherford TX)

Don't panic, it's actually a good sign...at least you know they are good tubers! Just pot them up as soon as you can, they will be just fine.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2009 at 11:26PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

I have all racks full of potted dahlias now, and need more space for more that are continuing to sprout. I think the local garden club will be benefitting big time, this spring.

    Bookmark     April 20, 2009 at 9:46PM
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pdshop(5)

jroot. I have not even gotten as far as you have as my tubers will not eye up? I can't go to the next step until they do as I haven't seen any eyes so that I can cut? What do you suggest to hurry them along?

    Bookmark     April 25, 2009 at 11:07AM
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cotodahliagirl

I have never divided tubers, but have to do it this weekend. I came across this on the site, it was originally posted on April 3, 05.
I hope it helps. ( I typed dividing tubers into the search box to find it)

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/dahlia/msg041343391520.html

    Bookmark     April 24, 2009 at 2:02PM
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killerv(Macon)

I was worried about squirrels when I should have been worried about cats, got home yesterday, found where the neighbors cat used one of the holes for a bathroom. Tuber was exposed but didn't look hurt.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2009 at 7:39AM
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nhdahlialover

Rinse off that tuber if a cat peed on it! I wish I were kidding. I lost numerous tubers last year due to my cat using the holes as a litter box before I figured out what was making them rot. I think the urine is really high in something bad for tubers...can't remember what though.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2009 at 12:22PM
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