3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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pdshop(5)

Thanks jroot. I will have to do this in stages as I don't have much sun yet. I might be able to rig something up in the cellar under the flourescent lights. I will have to get something high and than put the tubers on it to get them closer to the lights?

    Bookmark     April 3, 2009 at 10:52AM
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vikingcraftsman

I am only at exit 65 misslucinda.

    Bookmark     April 3, 2009 at 11:57PM
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otnorot(z5ont)

Good for you now they should come up bigger and stronger with more blooms, If your leaving them in the pots with the same soil then don't forget to fertilize after growth starts.They have formed tubers now so they tubers will be crowded in a pot.

Bill 77 years gardening.

    Bookmark     April 3, 2009 at 7:16PM
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teddahlia

Do not divide the clump unless you see another eye beginning to sprout. Some varieties do not have as many eyes as others and commercial growers leave the three or so smaller tubers together with the one eye because the grower will do better with the additional tuber mass. Those tubers are probably somewhat small and one tuber may shrivel.

    Bookmark     March 25, 2009 at 12:26PM
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otnorot(z5ont)

Dont worry so much just plant it as is and all those tubers will feed that one stem and maybe next year you can split it.
Bill 77 years gardening.

    Bookmark     April 3, 2009 at 7:07PM
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bouquet_kansas(z6Ks)

Ive purchased dahlias on line from Dan,s Dahlias.......Swan Island Dahlias........and corrolitos Dahlias.....had success with all three.

carol

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 12:11AM
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dwlmatthews

I've not tried any of those but if you're in the UK then T&M are probably your best bet.

Good luck,

Here is a link that might be useful: T&M Dahlias

    Bookmark     April 2, 2009 at 2:33PM
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lovedahlias

I would like to recommend Swan Island Dahlias located in Canby, Oregon. I have ordered for several years and the quality of the bulbs is extremely excellent and they produce beautiful plants and excellent bulbs in the fall! Good luck!

    Bookmark     March 13, 2009 at 7:18PM
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dwlmatthews

I find these guys are good value and reliable. And they have a good selection.

Best of luck!

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlias

    Bookmark     April 2, 2009 at 2:30PM
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zenobia0000

well, they were in my crawlspace in the winter and it did freeze, but i don't think anything froze there.

i planted them in some pots just recently, it hasn't frozen and will not freeze (god i hope!)

so how much should I water them?

    Bookmark     April 1, 2009 at 10:46AM
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homemommy

Dahlias don't like to be really "wet" or really "dry".

I find with mine, I water them so that the water pours out of the bottom of the pots, then I let them dry, even when the top of the soil looks dry, it is often not time to water again, I stick a finger tip in the soil and if it feels damp I leave it. Usually a dry top means it will need to be watered within 1-3 days...

If the tubers feel firm and solid, then chances are they did not freeze.

    Bookmark     April 1, 2009 at 2:46PM
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butterfly4u

I watch lots of Gardening Shows on DIY network.
HGTV sucks.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 11:49PM
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wren_garden(zone 5b/6)

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    Bookmark     April 1, 2009 at 11:47AM
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dahliagardener

Since Cory can't- the Garden Web considers that advertising-- let me direct you to the Wynne's Dahlias website where you can find weddings where Cory has used dahlias. I especially like the one where she used a single huge dahlia for each of the wedding party bouquets- a very inexpensive boquet for the bride & her bride's maids. She also made centerpieces using one dahlia & in one of the weddings she made dahlia topiaries using those strong-stemmed Wynne dahlias!
Ellie

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlia Albums

    Bookmark     March 28, 2009 at 7:17PM
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manifest(USDA 11a, Sunset 24, CA)

thanks for all the tips, poochella & sturgeon, i truly appreciate it! and thanks, too, for the link to cory's album, ellie. i also love how simple the single dinnerplate dahlia is as a bouquet! it's such a great idea and very budget friendly.

i am off to go order some tubers now!

    Bookmark     March 31, 2009 at 1:11PM
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homemommy

Take a deep breath, in.. out.. relax.

It is possible that you did them in, it is possible that they are going to be just fine!

I have a tuber from last year that some of the stem was left on, and the stem is sprouting like crazy. However, most of the time, the eyes come out of the tuber itself, very close to where the old stem was located. Some people call this area the "neck" of the tuber.

So... it is going to depend on just how you sliced and diced. If you completely cut the "neck" off all the tubers, then you may indeed be up creek without a paddle. However, it is more likely that at least some of your tubers have some area from which they can eye up.

This site has some great photos of the slicing and dicing of tubers, usually done prior to winter storage, but I separated all my tubers this spring.

http://dahlias.net/dahwebpg/TuberStor/TuberStor2.htm

Fortunately Dahlias are very hardy plants with a very strong will to survive, so it is not too likely that you killed them all, (if any at all.)

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 8:48PM
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jennypat Zone 3b NW MN(Zone 3b NW MN)

That's good to know, I know I did leave the next on some of them. When I looked at the tubers I was thinking they had eyes like potatoes, and there were indentations, so I was satisfied.

Thanks!
Jenny P

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 9:55PM
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sturgeonguy(5a ON)

People use many terms, and often they don't mean the same thing to different people who use them.

I grew all my Dahlias last year (~200) in 4" pots. They started indoors, and were planted in the beds that way (~4" below the surface of the soil.)

The result was a lot of difficult to separate tuber clumps. Granted, they were much easier to lift in the fall, and all plants grew to expected sizes.

The idea, as I read it, was to store the tubers in their pots over the winter, and in the spring bring them out to have them start sprouting. The sprouts would then be taken as cuttings and an entirely new plant started (or many.) The original pot tuber could be planted, thrown away, eaten, etc...

Separating tubers is needed if you don't want to take cuttings, but do want more plants next year from those you grow this year. If you learn how to take cuttings, the tubers themselves will be redundant when you come to plant out.

Cheers,
Russ

    Bookmark     March 25, 2009 at 6:26PM
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homemommy

Thanks so much for the further info.

Russ, that is a very interesting point about the cuttings. I actually am growing some cuttings this year and having really good luck with them! I don't know if you have been following my saga with some tubers I recieved from my mother in law last year, but to make a long story short, they where very badly mistreated and did not store very well overwinter. I was very fortunate to have 4 tubers out of about 15 sprout, 3 of which provided viable sprouts that could be harvested. I have taken 7 cuttings so far, all have rooted, and just tonight I was able to take another 5, keeping my fingers crossed ;-)

I like the idea of taking cuttings, I suppose next winter I will do my best to harvest the tubers, but definately cuttings will be something I do next spring! It seems to me an easy way to get many plants out of only one or two tubers!

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 9:35PM
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cotodahliagirl

I ordered all my tubers from them in October! I had a crazy day. I used them last year, the first year I tried dahlias. A third of them didn't grow but I am sure i am to blame for it! I am hoping to do better this year with them I have already received them and I am just waiting to plant!

    Bookmark     March 15, 2009 at 11:04PM
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bouquet_kansas(z6Ks)

I,ve ordered for several years from Swan Island with very good luck.the one on your list called Seduction is a gorgeous bloom! I am sure you will like it.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 12:42AM
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sturgeonguy(5a ON)

Best answer I could give would be smaller shorter varieties are more likely to have more blooms at the beginning of August no matter where you live. They simply don't require the same effort as the dinner plates.

Cheers,
Russ

    Bookmark     March 25, 2009 at 6:37PM
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bouquet_kansas(z6Ks)

I plant my dahlias around the first of May here in kansas.zone 6...
the smaller bedding dahlias bloom first and thruout the summer....the tubers vary in blooming time depending on the variety
the small and medium ones from first to mid summer and continue until frost
the dinner plates are later to bloom for me but much worth waiting for.......

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 12:17AM
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austinnhanasmom(5 CO)

I am a dahlia newbie but ordered some from The Dahlia Guy. I haven't received these yet. Walmart had some so I bought a pack and potted them. From what I'd read about how to store them, it seemed the Walmart tubers had not been properly prepped last fall. As such, I didn't have much hope. Maybe three weeks later, all three Walmart tubers have green growth. I ended up with two tuber packs completely buried and one had the stem sticking out of the dirt a bit. They all look alike now. The buried ones came up first.

I was hesitant to grow dahlias in the past, due to having to dig and store them in the fall, but I now think it'll be worth the effort.

NOW, I just need DH to build some trellises and figure out how to protect them from bugs...

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 11:13AM
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dahliagardener

Some dahlias take WAY longer to sprout than others. I have one that doesn't wake up until almost June but by July/August it's blooming it's head off at about the same time as all the rest.
Ellie

    Bookmark     March 28, 2009 at 7:24PM
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teddahlia

The Portland Dahlia Society allows members to borrow a very nice Ph meter to test their gardens. It cost about $125- and gives results in a few seconds. Members find that their soil does vary in Ph from location to location in their gardens. Here in Western Oregon our soils are generally a bit too acid and the addition of lime does wonders for dahlias. I have read that dahlias prefer acidity of about 6.5 but I have noticed that they do grow reasonably well at 6.0 and above.

    Bookmark     March 25, 2009 at 12:20PM
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monet_g

Well, the test itself was free, but came back with a pH reading of 8.5 - Yow! (This exercise is no longer free - I will be spending money on soil additives.) I find this interesting because Michigan soil is normally a bit acid and I amended with loads of Canadian peat about 18 mos. ago. I think I'll do an independent soil test myself (another outlay of $$$!). The Colorado Dahlia Society recommends Aluminum Sulfate (among other things) to lower soil pH and indicates how to apply it. Does anyone have experience doing this? Results?
Thanks

    Bookmark     March 28, 2009 at 9:58AM
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teddahlia

I traded for a Mingus Nicole tuber and have it in a pot to take cuttings. The sprout has just started and when it is about 2 inches long, I will cut it off and root it in some sterile potting mix. I have wanted this one for about five years and have never seen it for less than $10.00. I am looking forward to growing it again and it is one of the prettiest large dahlias available. Tubers are notorious for rotting in storage.

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 11:10PM
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monet_g

Thanks, Ted, for both of your responses.
"Tubers are notorious for rotting in storage." This is the type of information I find invaluable from this forum. It tells me how to care for a "special needs" Dahlia. I will take cuttings as you did and grow it on as a pot tuber. It should store more reliably than the normal process.
BTW - I located it for $3.00 (US).

    Bookmark     March 28, 2009 at 7:45AM
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