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CCvacation

Kudos to you for having blooms already!

Yes, they will still be blooming end of August, but sadly, they might be not quite up to standards... Aggressive watering, disbudding and fertilizing might rejuvenate them a month before showing, though.

Several serious show growers I know deliberately start their dahlias late, timing the first of the blooms for the shows. Often, they will only allow 3-4 blooms on each plant of the larger varieties FOR THE LIFE OF THE PLANT! This forces the energy of the plant into those few blooms (only one developing and blooming at a time).

For me, showing is secondary to continuous blooms, and I'd rather have a lush garden for a longer season. But, oh, those show blooms! WOW!

Cheers,
CC

    Bookmark     July 19, 2014 at 11:21PM
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CCvacation

Michael, check out this group on Facebook, and perhaps ask Martin the moderator privately if he has any suggestions on who you may contact. Don't know how close he is to you (Canada is a big place), but he has good grower contacts in that area and believes in the importance of mentorship.

This group has a wealth of documents worth checking out under the 'files' tab, and many hybridizers and advanced show folk read what is posted. Their response to questions depends on how specific the questions are, and how much someone has done their homework first before asking. (Rule of thumb on that forum is-" don't ask if the answer is a google search away.")

Cheers, and good luck at the shows!
CC

Here is a link that might be useful: Growing and Showing Dahlias

    Bookmark     July 19, 2014 at 11:11PM
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portia(PA 6B, Brandywine)

I just planted a few tubers with sprouts a week ago in zone 7 and they are already double the size. I don't know if you can store til next year so I would probably just plant them and see how far you can get. Even if they don't set buds, if they leaf out the tubers underneath will be growing roots and happy so you will most likely get more tubers at fall.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2014 at 1:44PM
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bragu_DSM 5

I had to chuckle, I was going through a box in the basement and I found a bunch of stuff I'd taken out of the ground for storage, not after last season, but after 2012 season. Most everything was desiccated except for two dahlias, which showed sprouts. I planted them. Reminds me, I better go check on them. But yeah, do it yesterday, they might make it. May not bloom, but should give the roots a chance to reconstitute â¦

_~

dave

    Bookmark     July 17, 2014 at 1:54PM
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linaria_gw

You couldn't just ask at the garden center...

Sorry not familiar with that one. Do you know the Dahlienverzeichnis. There is a kind of search function, I narrowed it down to Dekorative Dahlie", mehrfarbig/ multicolored and Grundfarbe rot. You could filter more by adding ca. hight and flowersize

And if you speak German you could try that other site: Dahlienliebhaber. You have to register as well, nice plant nerds, they could ID some plants for me last year.

http://www.dahlienliebhaber.de/board14-intern/board15-new-s-und-infos-aktuelles/12-neues-dahlienforum-ersetzt-das-forum-der-dahlienliebhaber/

Bye, Lin

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlienverzeichnis

    Bookmark     July 17, 2014 at 2:15AM
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ceh2101

People might want to see this again.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2010 at 7:34PM
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portia(PA 6B, Brandywine)

Bumping this thread-I noticed this evening that a few of my dahlias are suddenly starting to get yellowing leaves (over the last day literally it seems as I look at them daily). This is one pic of a plant that is otherwise thriving, has a few buds, about to bloom.

Pics for the tomato spotted virus seem like almost any yellowing leaf could be it, but I'm wondering about iron or nitrogen deficiency as I have mostly been fertilizing with a bloom fertilizer.

I'm hesitant to just assume tomato virus and toss the plant since it's otherwise extremely healthy with lots of growth--should I try iron and see or nitrogen or ? Also it's been pretty dry the last week though I have been watering, so no leaf droop.

Any suggestions appreciated.

    Bookmark     July 13, 2014 at 8:11PM
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morpheuspa

Well-drained soil is key for dahlia. Mine are in raised beds, with the majority on the southern face where it's very warm.

Don't water the tubers when you plant, the soil is damp enough unless it's bone dry. Dahlia won't generally require any watering at all until they're six inches tall or so.

Planting before frost ends isn't necessarily a no-no, but dahlia dislike sprouting until the soil temperature reaches 60. As long as the plant hasn't sprouted and the soil doesn't freeze, they won't be harmed by frost (but it'll slow them down).

Here in eastern PA, my target date is usually between May 1 and May 10th--which is a touch early as there's still some chance of frost here at that time (but a small chance). I do it early because my annuals have to go starting May 10th-May 15th, and that's a lot of work. The dahlia don't mind.

    Bookmark     July 11, 2014 at 4:23PM
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linaria_gw

wilt points to bacterial or fungal disease or
heavy, sudden root damage (which IMO is more unlikely).

That bug looks like an infant woodlouse or something, perhaps it just happened to crawl along and was not the cause.

Otherwise I would expect to see some damage on the leaves.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 4:24PM
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jws338(z5)

Thanks, turns out it was a mealybug

    Bookmark     July 11, 2014 at 1:35PM
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One of my prettiesJust loving my dahlias!!
Posted by Prettypetals_GA_7-8 July 10, 2014
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Thanks y'all!! It prob is a dinner plate but not sure which one. I ordered a bunch this year and never try to keep up with the names. May be one of the many Cafe Au Lait I ordered. I put them in the ground as bulbs after our last frost date which is April 15. They are healthy looking but I do have a few burnt leaves that I am assuming they get from the hot afternoon sun. Not really sure though. It's my only spot left to grow them so I gotta put up with the hot afternoons. Judy

    Bookmark     July 11, 2014 at 8:52AM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Looking at one I know is Cafe Au Lait makes me think this one is too!

    Bookmark     July 11, 2014 at 1:22PM
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morpheuspa

You clearly have a cat infestation. Just saying.

I'm presuming you watered? They should pop up in a few hours if water was the issue, and with two in a pot they'd be more demanding of water (and all other resources).

You could transplant that second dahlia to another pot if you want, but you're likely to shock both a little bit when you do. Keep the soil moist in both pots until the plants don't wilt in full sun any longer, which usually takes about a week (if they even shock at all).

    Bookmark     July 11, 2014 at 2:13AM
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portia(PA 6B, Brandywine)

It's hard to tell but I have had some insect damage which can result in curling/black leaves. I pinch them off and inspect the plants. I've had thrips and also mealybugs, so I'm spraying homemade insecticidal soap for now. I just don't want them on the buds.

    Bookmark     July 10, 2014 at 1:30PM
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ichorica(8)

Another..

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 2:08PM
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morpheuspa

+1 on the nitrogen, I never met a flower that didn't like at least some.

I tend to apply Miracle Gro to the gardens weekly (Milorganite monthly), although I apply the Miracle Gro at half rate or a little below via my injection feeder.

Between the two, I maintain a grand total of 750 flowering plants in 2,000 square feet, in heavy bloom throughout the season.

Right now, 75 of those are Harlequin dahlia which have been blooming like troopers since late May. One Sky Angel is just coming into bloom now, but will continue heavy and constant bloom through October.

15 new dahlia friends are growing and will bloom in late August; I planted those very, very late.

Most or all plants exceed their specified heights, to the point that my Harlequins are two feet tall right now, and the Sky Angel will reach five to six feet.

    Bookmark     July 10, 2014 at 6:19AM
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flowergirl70ks

The name might be Seattle

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 4:31PM
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davidinsf

I agree it MAY be Seattle - especially if it has faint pink lines that trace the yellow in the bud.

Though my Seattle got nowhere near 5 ft, it did do something odd this year. As I said, most of mine have the pink outline around the yellow. The ones I have THIS year have little to NO pink tracings AND as opposed to last year, one of the blooms came out almost all white with little yellow!

Common to bi and tri colors - I had just never seen that on my Seattle(s) and I have had them for 3 years. So if other buds have more white than yellow, it might well be Seattle.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 9:17PM
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cinnie0 (z 9b / So Cal)

i am also having a problem with thrips.. i am in the process of trimming down all my dahlias so there is not many leaves left on them, and sprayed them all down with dish soap/ water solution. Good luck to you, maybe someone will come on with a solution.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 9:55AM
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portia(PA 6B, Brandywine)

Well the dahlias fared seemingly well while we were gone--thrips on lots of other plants though--still spraying when I see them!

    Bookmark     July 6, 2014 at 10:46AM
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morpheuspa

I deadhead my Harlequin (a small, seed-grown decorative dahlia) whenever the blooms fade. Production of new blooms is constant, so it always has buds, fresh flowers, fading flowers, and things I really should dead-head and promise to get around to shortly.

As far as I've noted, my medium-sized semi-formal dahlia are the same, and I've never seen an exception on any dahlia type I've grown. Most seem to constantly produce buds. But I feed a lot.

If you were--let's say--to remove every bud, it would probably be 2 to 3 weeks for the next set to develop.

    Bookmark     July 5, 2014 at 8:26PM
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highlandernorth

I tried growing many larger sized dahlia plants in 16-18" pots 2 years ago, without good luck. They simply became dwarfed. The plants grew much shorter than they would have in the ground. They grew thinner and less healthy looking, and the flowers were 1/2 the size they had been the year before grown in the ground. I think you can get away with growing dahliettas in pots, and maybe small dahlia plants, but the larger plants that get to 4 feet tall or taller will not do well in pots....

Many plants dont do well in pots, in spite of claims made by many people.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 6:33PM
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bragu_DSM 5

well, you can always plant in pots, and then bury the pots in the ground, to give the pot extra support. Makes them easier to dig and separate in the fall if you live where ya gots to dig every year. Gallon containers work well â¦

dave

    Bookmark     July 5, 2014 at 2:14PM
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