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Posted by daniellalell October 7, 2007
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anna_in_quebec(z4 QC)

How lovely! Just gorgeous - thanks for sharing!

Anna

    Bookmark     November 15, 2007 at 3:05PM
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roxy_girl(7b Weatherford TX)

Hope mine make such a nice show this next year! Very pretty!

    Bookmark     December 26, 2007 at 1:43PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Love the dark red Liza. Very nice!

    Bookmark     December 5, 2007 at 11:46PM
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roxy_girl(7b Weatherford TX)

Love the flower picture AND the dirt under your nails! *lol* That so reminds me of me! I'm starting a lot of different types of dahlia from seed this year and can't wait for all the suprises too!

    Bookmark     December 25, 2007 at 3:44PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Wonderful find, pdshop. I was lucky too and found 90% of what I want at one site. Yippee.

Arrowhead Dahlias and its owner has a mention in the thread linked below, and a good review in the Garden Watchdog. The owner has photo/info contributions on the propagation section at www.dahlias.net website- a sign that they are committed to the flower and not the $$$. A contribution and commitment I find refreshing. I might give them a try myself.

Here is a link that might be useful: dahlia sources including Arrowhead

    Bookmark     December 16, 2007 at 11:16PM
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dahliaboy

I had a weekend layover in Colorado Springs back in July
and drove up to Platteville to visit with Calvin and Julie Cook of Arrowhead Dahlias. They both love dahlias and are
comitted to turning out a high quality product. I ordered
from them last year and will be ordering again from them for next season.
DB

    Bookmark     December 17, 2007 at 2:13PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

If you type 'dahlias in Florida' into the search box above, upper right of page, it will lead you to past threads that address that very subject.

Another resource: Dahlia Society of Georgia which has wonderful newsletters and addresses growing issues similar to those in your question.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlia Society of GA

    Bookmark     December 13, 2007 at 12:15AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Try art supply stores, or craft stores.

If you can dry your tubers, Sharpies work very well on dry tubers.

    Bookmark     December 5, 2007 at 11:37PM
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covella

I am just laughing at myself. I thought your subject line was inedible pencils and out of curiosity I clicked to find out what that was. duh!

    Bookmark     December 11, 2007 at 7:11PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Below is a link to a wonderful tried-and-tested consumer feedback tool, not only on dahlias, but thousands of other plants. See for yourself what experience people have had with various dahlia sellers, bearing in mind that 'neutral' comments show up as positive in the 100% ratings. Then shop, try, and decide for yourself.

If I had to pick just one seller, it would be for quality, variety, service, and established reputation in the dahlia world.

Here is a link that might be useful: Excellent shopping resource

    Bookmark     December 7, 2007 at 10:12PM
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upwithdahlias(Colorado(Z4))

Wishing that everyone had their 2008 lists online? Well, the BigList Dahlia Locator may be just what you are looking for.

Currently there are 71 North American Mail Order Dahlia Suppliers online and over 10,000 Variety-to-Supplier links are included in the BigList.

This BigList is updated almost as soon as suppliers get their 2008 lists finalized which is sort of a slow moving process that can last into March. 2008 Supplier information is clearly marked and 2007 information is also included for reference purposes.

Here is a link that might be useful: The BigList Dahlia Locator

    Bookmark     December 9, 2007 at 8:18AM
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vikingcraftsman

We are all waiting to see are babies open their eyes. But if worst comes to worst we can buy new ones from the people on this list.

    Bookmark     December 7, 2007 at 5:50PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Bob 13, I would recommend you go to the Dahlia Society of GA and read their November/December newsletters about storage options in your area. Contact them at that website for more particulars about dahlia care in your area. I bet you'll find some helpful answers.

Two things for now: don't let your clumps dry out, and don't let them freeze. The eyes are fairly obvious after digging for only a couple days, then they recede as the tuber skin dries. You should see plenty of sprouting eyes in spring to guide your way to successful dividing then.

Best of luck.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlia Society of Georgia

    Bookmark     December 7, 2007 at 9:56PM
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vikingcraftsman

I canot comment on the white stuff on your cuttings, I would like to know why you are doing your cuttings in water instead of using rooting hormone and soil.? I am intending to increase my stock by cuttings also.

    Bookmark     November 29, 2007 at 9:19PM
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irish_rose_grower(z7 LI NY)

Thanks jroot. I'm going to plant them tomorrow morning.

    Bookmark     July 20, 2007 at 7:51PM
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vikingcraftsman

How did you make out with the late planting? Our weather sure tried to help you.

    Bookmark     November 23, 2007 at 11:33PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

You don't have to use fungicide. It's just a little insurance for open cuts or 'bugs' that go along with the tubers for the winter storage ride. Some people use a liquid dip, but a shake in the sulphur bag is quite easy too.

    Bookmark     November 2, 2006 at 10:09PM
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emjaysee

just reading the discussion regarding saran wrap.I have used Press and Seal on about 1/2 of my stock for the last two years and have been very happy with the results. I somtimes leave two or three tubers connected to the crown the Press and Seal allows my to do this and still keep a barrier between the tubers in case one spoils. When I get tired of wrapping, I store the balance of my stock in wood chips. The wood chips do not work as well for small tubers, but seem to be okay for some of the larger or more "hearty" varietes of tubers (Tempest, O'Condah, Blue Bayou, Black Satin, Nijinsky)

    Bookmark     November 23, 2007 at 2:56AM
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pdshop(5)

Where would I get the Sea Oro and Long Island Lil? I am going to change my color scheme next year. Too much pink and purples.

    Bookmark     October 19, 2007 at 3:02PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Sorry pd, have been busy digging.... Long Island Lil from the Big List is available from 3 sellers:

LONG ISLAND LIL Arrowhead Dahlias

LONG ISLAND LIL DanÂs Dahlias

LONG ISLAND LIL Endless Summer Flower Farm

Sea Oro is an origination from a Seattle grower Sea-Tac Gardens and is a marvelous flower.

    Bookmark     November 20, 2007 at 10:32PM
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pdshop(5)

It was also my second year. My first year I didn't read anything, just put them in the ground. They were spectacular. Than I had a whole winter to read everything about dahlias. I started doing the pinching at the 3rd set of leaves. That did me in. I would get about 4 to 6 long stalks with flowers on the very top. So discouoraging after the first year. I also had pests. Whitefly was one and it was awful. I used everything that was suggested. I jut hope they don't come back next year. Try some in containers were you can keep an eye on them.

    Bookmark     October 30, 2007 at 6:45PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

Do read up this winter on the use of horticultural spray oils. Steve in Baltimore County.

    Bookmark     November 20, 2007 at 10:10AM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

Hi Nebraska. I still store some of mine in big plastic boxes full of peat. What I do is fill the box about 1/2 full and add some water sprinkled over the surface with a watering can. Then again when full. Not a soaking but maybe a quart. The only problem I have with this, my tubers seem to want to sprout awfully early. Which doesn't really hurt anything. Steve in Baltimore County.

    Bookmark     November 20, 2007 at 4:28AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Get a spritzer bottle of water and mist the tubers in the paper bags lightly if they seemed shrivelled. You might save more moisture by packing all the paper bags inside a box for less air exposure/drying.

I don't know if we are the exception for gardening supplies, but our local farm and feed store is wonderful at carrying supplies I use, including bulk bags of vermiculite at a reasonable price. Perhaps there's one not too far away, Daniellalell?

Here's a commercial supplier who offers to check your area for local distributors. Might be worth a shot to contact them.

Here is a link that might be useful: Bulk Vermiculite

    Bookmark     November 18, 2007 at 12:25AM
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daniellalell

Hard to find gardening stuff this time of year around here. Now I know for next year to buy vermiculite in July or August...The seasonal stuff has all been christmas christmas christmas since Oct. As a matter of fact the other day I was starting to get some bat flower and bird of paradise seeds started..you think I could find anything I needed? NO. No seed starting mix except for store brand. I had amazingly found a couple of bags of MG Cactus succulent soil that a local hardware store had leftover to pot up my Heliconias in, even though that wasn't what I wanted either. I potted up the Heliconias and used the extra soil for the seeds..I hope they do OK with it.
I need to move south where its warmer longer and this kinda stuff is available more.
Lol, It's just so hard for me to spend money in the summer time on stuff I know I'll need in the fall..I always think, well, I can buy plants right now, and the fall stuff can hold off...now look at the pickle I'm in cuz I'm so plant greedy. This happened every time I went to HD this year..I'd have peat, vermiculite, potting soil, mulch all in my cart..then I'd pass something I couldn't resist..then the reduced rack..then more plants i can't resist..then the fall stuff gets put back for next time. ARGH!!
I checked my tubers today and all seems well so far in the bags. But I am going to go on a vermiculite mission tomorrow..someone has got to have some somewhere.
Thank you all very much.

    Bookmark     November 18, 2007 at 7:24PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

An eye on a dahlia is a specialized set of cells that will go on to produce next year's plant/s. On a clump dug in fall, the eyes will look like small, raised white, yellow, and sometimes pinkish pimples . They are found on thickened toughened collar material around the stem of the plant from which tubers have grown, and are sometimes found on the underside of a clump. Some are latent eyes which haven't bulged out yet, so if in doubt, save that tuber and see what happens in Spring.

You must have an eye to produce plant growth for next year. The biggest mistake I've seen people make is hacking off the tuber right below the collar in the thinner neck. An eyeless tuber simply won't produce a plant- ever. "Blind tuber" is the term used to describe those. "Worthless" might be another. Here's one of those: tons of roots; nothing to grow. This tuber had no eye.

To get the eye and some tissue behind it, one has to stab/cut into the collar around the eye and sever that whole eyed tuber from the clump. It gets easier with practice. Hacking into halves or quarter clumps isn't out of the question, but I don't do that. I find it's easier with dividing clumps in fall when they are full of moisture and softer to cut. They will dry and harden up over winter making cutting tougher, but the shoots will often be much more obvious in Spring.

Photos of eyes on the collar of a clump/tuber.
Here's an obvious eye with another formed at about ten o'clock above it. Raised lighter pimples.

This cooperative variety has more obvious shoots, formerly eyes. There is an eye on the tiny tuber to the right, outlined in dark blue.

An eye outlined in blue.

central eye with brown, surrounded by 4 light 'pimples,' also eyes at 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock. An eye to the far upper right marked in blue on another tuber.

Some tubers have a pink cast when dug, but really obvious eyes. Not all well-formed tubers have eyes. Get those that do first, then move down to less desirable weak/thin-necked tubers which are prone to breaking or rotting.
I just found a tuber from 2006 in my garage, in a plastic bag all year- still waiting for that eye to show up. Obviously, it had no eye, and no growth potential, but I was suprised at what good shape it was in for a year out of the ground and no special treatment.

Eyes are much less obvious on these tubers, but it shows how one should be cutting into the collar material, not just cutting tubers off at the necks. As the tuber dries, the eyes will recess and re-emerge in spring like magic.

Dig in and excavate those good eyed tubers from your clump! I don't know how people do it with knives; thin sharp shears are dangerous enough for me.
I will cut along the blue line to separate these two tubers, each with eyes/shoots.

Good luck with your dividing this year. It isn't hard at all once you get the hang of it.

    Bookmark     November 17, 2007 at 11:52PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

See, I told you a picture is worth a lot of words. Steve in Baltimore County.

    Bookmark     November 18, 2007 at 12:22AM
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