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misslucinda

Also my regrets about your son and I laud your way of paying tribute to him.
I have very successfully over-wintered clumps however clumsy they are. I have not even used vermiculite thus far (although I have a friend who stores her clumps in shredded leaves).
I second Poochellas' suggestion that you can always wait for sprouts to form in the spring and divide in half or whatever depending on what sprouts. So much easier!

ML

    Bookmark     November 17, 2007 at 10:32PM
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cookie_ks(9)

Just wanted to say "thanks" to both Poochella and Misslucinda for replying to my post. I decided to go ahead and store the clump in a plastic bag with some vermeculite, per Poochellas' advice. Also the photo you posted of the Clearview David was beautiful. I will have to order one for next year. I had planted one that looked similar, it was called Seduction but unfortunately it got some kind of disease where the bottom of the stalk got black and mushy. I cut it off and hoped that when I dug them up, I would be able to at least have some tubers, but there were none. The whole plant was a loss. Oh well, you win some, you lose some I am learning, the hard way.

    Bookmark     November 17, 2007 at 11:48PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

I would toss those affected, yes.

I had several tubers/plants that I suspect were infected with something from their very sprouting this season. They are all going to be garbage as I don't want whatever it is to spread.

    Bookmark     November 5, 2007 at 10:17PM
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daniellalell

O no, I had that too! My largest clump I dug up had that on it..I left the clumps sit to dry then that stuff just rubbed right off..Should I still chuck mine? I wouldn't be heart broken, it was only one clump..but I hate to throw stuff away when it comes to plants...Bad enough I feel like a murderer cutting them down, lol.

    Bookmark     November 14, 2007 at 7:08AM
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Berger's RecordDahlia Berger's Record among citrus trees. Photo taken Nov 10, 2007
Posted by Central_Cali369(Sunset Z9, Fresno, CA) November 10, 2007
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Poochella(7 WA)

Beautiful- like a blast of summer! A dose of Vitamin B for Beauty and C for Citrus all in one bed.

    Bookmark     November 13, 2007 at 10:48PM
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darlene87(z7 Wa)

It is not the season to be sharing dahlia tubers. Most people have put them away for the winter. Spring will be the time to ask again, as most people are separating the tubers and have many to share. I will, but they are in the ground all winter for me, and I have not dug them up yet. Just check back in spring.
Darlene

    Bookmark     November 11, 2007 at 3:28AM
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jayne_grower

Thanks for your help. They are rubbery but not mushy so I think I will try to save them. I thought putting them in sawdust might help to dry them out a little. The rest I have been wrapping up in saran wrap or plastic bags. I'm still very new to dahlias so I have much to learn.

    Bookmark     November 8, 2007 at 5:40AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

yah, and even when you're very 'old' at dahlias, there is still much to learn...

They are pretty hearty little beasts that will try their best to survive for you, so no harm is trying to save them at all.
Good luck.

    Bookmark     November 8, 2007 at 9:31PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

We've had several frosts and I've cut down masses of dahlias.. I don't know that I'd wait two weeks (it won't hurt) but you shouldn't need to wait that long. I've cut one day and dug the next and had no problem seeing eyes. Just think and look for 'pimples' on the collar area surrounding the stem. They tend to be light yellow/white or sometimes pinkish, raised swellings on the collar.

The biggest mistake people make is chopping off the tubers at the neck. You really need to stab into the hard collar area to get some tissue behind the eyed-up area.
Eyes marked in blue. Green part is the main stalk of the plant around which the collar with eyes forms.

    Bookmark     November 5, 2007 at 9:52PM
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linnea56(z5 IL)

I want to get it done so will do it this weekend. If I can't see eyes I will just store them whole.

    Bookmark     November 8, 2007 at 8:38PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

If you cut off the foliage first, just let the clumps sit for a few days. You might even find eyes now, but the conventional wisdom says to let them sit a few days after cutting. If you dug them up with the foliage on, cut it off leaving a stalk 'handle' of about 6-8 inches or more.

A frost is optional- they grow dahlias in warm climates too and manage to keep their tubers regrowing every year.

Good Luck!

    Bookmark     November 7, 2007 at 5:10PM
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crdahlia(z8bWA)

Dahlia seed will produce plants that bloom the first year from seed, but don't plant in January. If you are starting in the house or greenhouse, plant in March or April, depending on when you would normally plant the tubers. Most of the seed growers I know start them April 1st. My son direct sows his seed May 1st. They bloom the first year and look just like plants started from tubers. They do not come true from the parent plant. That is how new varieties come about. If you have open centered varieties you grow, most of the seed will be open centered (much easier for bees to gather pollen from the open centered varieities). It takes a lot of plants to come up with a good one worth keeping, but it's a lot of fun to see what you get. Kind of like opening a package at Christmas.

Teresa

    Bookmark     November 4, 2007 at 9:21AM
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hemnancy(z8 PNW)

I grew seeds from Thompson & Morgan last year and some did well and bloomed a lot. I tried Bishop's Children and Collarette. Frost wiped out most of the tuber-grown dahlias but the seed-grown ones still have flowers on them. They are in a place that gets better airflow though.

    Bookmark     November 6, 2007 at 8:36PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

Hi Instar--Heck no, go up to the door and ask. What can it hurt. We have over a hundred Amish in our family and I'll bet if they don't know the name of that dahlia I'll bet they would go out of their way to find out. Hey, the worst that can happen you'll get run over by a buggy. Steve in Baltimore County.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2007 at 7:14PM
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instar8(Z 5 N.IN)

I saw one of the gardeners out the other day, but didn't have time to stop...i just waved...maybe i can work out a barter, she has a huge planting. Worth a try, I guess.

    Bookmark     November 6, 2007 at 9:37AM
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coasterphile

I bought my dahlias last spring as flats of annuals. They produced wonderful tubers that I pulled up this week. I only paid flat price (36/$12). This seems SO cheap compared to the stuff you are talking about. Are they something different? They were plants about 12 inches tall, very bushy, soming in about a half dozen colors. They were beautiful. If these ARE the same as other types, why not always buy like this?

    Bookmark     October 31, 2007 at 3:07PM
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dahliagardener

You bought border dahlias. The other ones are show dahlias- fully double blooms on 3-6' plants. Some have huge blooms-- up to 15" across & 12" deep. Look at the list & pick a grower/supplier- then look at their website to see the difference.

    Bookmark     November 1, 2007 at 4:28PM
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triple_b(BC 5b)

That may be a good use for ones you accidentally break while digging up or dividing. Cook 'em up!

    Bookmark     March 29, 2007 at 4:22PM
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digger-gormet

The larouse encyclopedie gormet listd dahlia bulbs as edible. That is what started my search for more info. We have dahlias growing unaided in our yard. We don't dig them in the fall, we just let them grow as they will. We have flowers 4 - 5 inches across. The ground covering the tubers is bulged up in some places about 8 - 10 inches. Some of the bulbs break through the surface. Now that every one is convinced that I am torturing flowers I will say this, these dahlias are so happy that I have too many bulbs. So, why not have a few on the table? Could be a winter item that doesn't have to be stored. At least where I live. I would really like to hear somthing more about this.

    Bookmark     October 31, 2007 at 4:59PM
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coasterphile

This is my first time wintering them, too! I am following the advice of this forum.I researched a bit and it seemed the easiest, with best results.(Hope I attached the link to the forum entry correctly!)

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlia advice-saran wrap method

    Bookmark     October 31, 2007 at 3:03PM
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flowergirl70ks

To you fibro patients, for what it might be worth. One of my grandaughters has fibro and she is a vegan, mostly raw veges. She says that has helped her more than anything.

    Bookmark     October 29, 2007 at 9:30AM
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darlene87(z7 Wa)

I am another fibro patient that gardens. Helps keep me sane. I try to pace myself and not overdo. When I over do, I pay dearly for it, and in bed for a few days. I have a lot of dahlias, just for my own pleasure. I used to do the church flower arrangements. I leave my tubers in the ground all year, and dig some up in the spring and seperate. I also am on a special diet for the colon, cutting out the red meat and the grains really helped with the fibro pain.
Darlene

    Bookmark     October 31, 2007 at 3:14AM
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j_nail(5 Eastern WA)

Ah, I see. Thanks for the input regardless! I think the garage will have to do, I'll just be sure to insulate them well and I'll keep a thermometer in the box with them so I can keep an eye on temps.
I actually live in Peaceful Valley, but my brother lives right below Cannon Hill Park. Why do you ask?

    Bookmark     October 28, 2007 at 3:33PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

There is a small garden, I believe on the 18th st side of the park and just a block or two east of Lincoln, has the most beautiful dahlias, Just thought it might be yours. Steve in Baltimore County.

    Bookmark     October 28, 2007 at 4:31PM
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covella

thanks for the great description huey!

    Bookmark     October 24, 2007 at 11:18PM
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mingusalex2007

alyrics...The saran method is fast. I do not use anything on my tubers before I wrap them. Do a search for no fuss dahlias. You will find all the info you need. The dahlias do not touch. You use a long piece of saran wrap and roll the first one and add the next and roll it. They must not touch each other. I usually put 5 or so in each piece of saran.

    Bookmark     October 25, 2007 at 2:25AM
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