3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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gardenper(8)

Great to hear !

I got 2 bare-root astilbes and put them in the same container on different sides of the container. One came up first. It was growing so nice and bushy that I thought the other must have died off. However, within the last week or so, it is also growing something now. So the lesson learned is that a gardener still needs to be patient to see the efforts pay off.

    Bookmark     May 21, 2014 at 2:04PM
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ms_xeno

symi77, that's a great-looking flower! :)

gardenper, you're definitely right. Both of the tubers are now showing quite a lot of growth. (I can already tell that I should have planted them further apart, but there's that whole limited space thing. What can ya' do?)

Hopefully, Mamabear86 will check in and let us know how hers are progressing, too.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 1:11PM
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SequoiaMatt99

Use sturdy metal stakes. It's not pleasant to use flimsy stakes and then worry about fallen plants after a storm, or simply because of the weight of the flowers. Also, make sure to put the stakes in before you plant, not only after they need staking- this ensures you don't stab through any tubers.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 12:32AM
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portia(PA 6B, Brandywine)

Found a pack of tall bamboo stakes at my local nursery. Will see how they work out. Thanks everyone.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 11:02AM
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ginnier

Did you use Google and look around? I first had to see what you wanted...ooh, so pretty. And then, I found several places...oh sold out...I see your problem.
Then I saw growingorganic.com has them for 4.99, did you try them?
Good luck!

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 10:07AM
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gringo(z8 VA)

Thank you so much! Haven't heard of them, but hope it isn't too late to try & that shipping is reasonable, too. Much appreciate your kind help in this matter.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 2:39PM
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linaria_gw

As far as I know cuttings are as virused as the original plant

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 5:13PM
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welltraveled(z5Mid Mich)

Thank you That is what I will do..Have some new ones this year.. Hy Debut,Clearview David,Cafe au Lait
Clearview Arlene,bode.mexico and hawaii

    Bookmark     May 27, 2014 at 5:10PM
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Tiffan

Where did you get the Cafe Au Lait?? I love the images of that one, it looks marvelous. Post pics when you get some blooms!

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 10:57AM
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Tiffan

I highly recommend American Meadows for dahlias, BTW. Their selection is a little low no, at the end of the planting season, but they've got a ton of varieties during the spring.

Here is a link that might be useful: American Meadows Dahlias

This post was edited by cagoldbear on Thu, May 29, 14 at 10:56

    Bookmark     May 28, 2014 at 11:55AM
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mandolls(4)

I grow border dahlias from seed, but even they get to 18-24" tall. The tubers that the small ones produce are pretty tiny, which makes them more difficult to store over the winter, as they dry out easily. The first year I grew them, I did try to store the tubers, and got maybe 50% to survive? For me it is just as easy to re grow them from seed every spring. (actually I start them in Feb)

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 7:31AM
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plantlady2008

Dahlias aren't like tulips & daffs that require a "rest" in a cold or cool place. We have customers in South Africa & in California & Texas that leave them in the ground until spring, dig them up, divide them & replant them immediately. They have better luck "storing" them in the ground that way than digging them up & trying to keep them over the winter.

    Bookmark     October 6, 2008 at 8:06PM
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Tiffan

Over in Houston, I've invested heavily my first year planting the tubers. I'm attaching a photo that I took a couple of weeks ago of a sprout that was after about 6 weeks. I planted mid-late april. I plan to keep them in the ground the whole winter and see how that goes.

I planted a couple that might not work so well with the color scheme, but I'm going for it this year. I've got Kogana Fubuki, Tahiti Sunrise and a pastel mix of gladiolus and Oriental Lily Girosa in the front, and "Crazy Love," a Blue Moon mix of gladiolus and the Golden Lily of Japan for the back. We'll see, I may have planted them too late for our southern heat, but we'll see!!

    Bookmark     May 28, 2014 at 5:51PM
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dahliafever

Thanks for the reminder on the State tuber sale. The sale started at 7.30, and by the time I got there at 9.30, most of the stuff was gone! The lesson for next year is to take the WI dahlia society membership, as the members-only sale happens the week before. It was a great deal to buy plants that were already a foot long for $4.00. I got about 12 new plants. I turned on the email; will send you the list.

    Bookmark     May 27, 2014 at 7:29AM
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darcy_d(5b)

Oh that's too bad!! At least you were able to get some :) I'm learning I prefer the tubers to the cuttings from the sales.

I tried to mail you but your mail isn't on still...or I don't know what I'm doing :)

    Bookmark     May 27, 2014 at 9:52AM
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linaria_gw

So, after waiting for 5 more weeks , staring at that inert little dark shoot, it started sprouting, yey. I had kept it very dry so it wouldn't rot, watering very carefully, and now there are even roots visible.
It's Cherry drop, part of my first order from Swan Island. Weather got warm, so it will go outside soon.

Have a nice weekend, bye, Lin

    Bookmark     May 25, 2014 at 1:51AM
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mandolls(4)

Its odd how much slower some are than others. I woke up all of my tubers about the same time, and I have a few plants that are over 2 feet, and a few that are 2 inches, most between 8-12".

Glad that one started moving for you!

    Bookmark     May 25, 2014 at 7:45AM
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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

Medium is definitely soggy however roots do look white which is a good sign.

    Bookmark     April 28, 2014 at 3:30PM
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gringo(z8 VA)

wasn't this called the black dahlia ? anyhow, I don't know why you had to order them from the u.k. as thom/choca-mocha is widely available here in the usa with. british postage being much higher than our own!
I used the format for the name, as they are one and the same plant, so your 'seedlings' are actually all vegetative propagations of one original plant, rather easily & quickly propagated from cuttings that easily take root.
. I actually prefer the old original 'chocolate cosmos'.as
it was one of a survivor from Kew gardens for many years & self sterile . although it does actually produce tuberous roots, whereas the newer cultivar doesn't seem to, although maybe much more quick to reproduce & make rooted cuttings at a much faster pace, lending itself to rapid culture & sales.
I have both, this year, in hopes to make a few seeds, if its even possible. But to me it's worth a try...
It really isn't extinct in the wild from what i understand, at least the locality is being kept quiet, so as to prevent it from being extirpated from the wild due to theft. of possibly the entire population.
plants aren't legally taken from the wilds of Mexico & the law has been that way, for many years...
By now, I suppose yours have either grown or rotted. Here , its readily available, unless sold out for the year already.
I much prefer the old 'chocolate cosmos' that survived in Kew gardens in the U.K. as it does produce the tubers and the new form has stringy roots. It didn't want to go dormant last winter & then simply died. So it's more like an annual.
Good luck, as the ones sold potted here, at least by mail order are already in growth.

    Bookmark     May 25, 2014 at 6:45AM
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mandolls(4)

Either on will help, sand will last longer. Pearlite is great for containers, but it will break down after a year or so in the ground.

    Bookmark     May 16, 2014 at 9:53AM
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portia(PA 6B, Brandywine)

Great thanks!

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 9:10AM
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linaria_gw

Looks like alternating leaves ( not sitting opposit on the stem) and that would exclude Dahlia volunteers

Can't say what it is though

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 5:17PM
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dahlias_bloom

I thought it looked slightly different, but didn't catch the alternating leaves. Thanks for pointing it out! Sometimes I overlook the obvious. ;)

I would say that right now this plant is three, maybe four, inches tall. It sprouted within the last week (between weeding days). I might let it grow some more to see what it is.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 5:59PM
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mandolls(4)

Straw should work fine. I use a 1-2" layer of composted manure. You would expect weeds to flourish in it, but they don't. Once the Dahlias fill in they tend to shade out any weeds anyway.

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 6:56AM
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suzegarden(z5mo)

Thanks so much for your help!

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 11:06PM
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mandolls(4)

Even seeing them in person won't help much as pretty much no one sells blooming dahlias - except the dwarf varieties that are sold in pots. S Fla is not the easiest place to grow dahlias, they don't tend to like lots of super hot weather.

    Bookmark     May 15, 2014 at 7:49AM
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gardenper(8)

I have seen the dwarf varieties at the big box stores and nurseries. Otherwise, I tend to get the bare roots from the box stores also. If they are not good for your region, you might not find them in those chain box stores.

    Bookmark     May 21, 2014 at 3:15PM
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davids10 z7a nv.

wonderful transformation-r u in bernal heights?

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 2:16PM
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davidinsf

I wish. No, as you can maybe tell from the 'gray sky' I am in the Sunset.

Don't know why my last pic didn't get posted but the very back in front of the fence is what I call my 'hospital' section. Any dahlia not performing well goes into the 'hospital' and either recovers or gets the boot after one year. You can't see them yet as this pic was taken a few weeks ago but the back area is ablaze with 3-4 Loverboys blooming now and one O'Condah.

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 7:32PM
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