3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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oxmyx(6)

oh yes! a definite problem, these buggers will inject a hormone to make the plant grow the way they want it, that means dwarfism!

I had this problem and now at any sign of the winged white ones I will spray the underside of the leaves of the entire plant with malathion. I have done this twice so far this year, kills them right away. Don't know if this is a restricted chemical, now...... but I have some from years ago.
good luck

    Bookmark     July 22, 2007 at 1:47AM
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pdshop(5)

Thanks I hope I can find some.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2007 at 9:35AM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

Test for thrips by tearing open spent bloom. See if they are not host to little brown insect. Sevin is a good control. Steve in Baltimore County.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2007 at 3:23PM
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oxmyx(6)

I once read that it is worthwile spraying with a fungicide, it hold off the inevitable "dieback" of the flowers, especially with rain and humidity.
Some times I will just pick off the browning pettals on the large dahlias that continue to grow.
another way to look at it is that, if you cut the blossom off it will encourage more!
good gardening.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2007 at 2:09AM
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mingusalex2007

"I'm so excited and I just can't hide it
I'm about to lose control and I think I like it!"
That is the next line. LOL
Thanks for sharing your beautiful Dahlias! They look fabulous!

    Bookmark     July 21, 2007 at 10:54AM
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oxmyx(6)

Me too! first time with Dinner plate ones, these are flowering here in connecticut, probably around 9 inches also, no dinner plate for sure but soooooooo nice!

Nice picts, I also have the dark bronze red ones, very nice.
Cheers from an avid lifelonger Dahlia fan

    Bookmark     July 22, 2007 at 1:53AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

I second the vote for every one Huey named- all top quality and beautiful colors. They are all tall and will need staking. Pam Howden is/are among the tallest in my garden again this year- 5+ feet last year and heading that way soon in 07. Cameo is more 3.5-4 ft. Taratahi Ruby is one of the most vibrant dahlias I've ever grown. Get them all!

    Bookmark     July 20, 2007 at 10:39PM
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ebster

Thank you for your recommendation. What would you use for staking in containers and what's the minimum diameter for the container? Thanks again!

    Bookmark     July 21, 2007 at 2:16PM
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huey_ga(z7)

Dahlias need some nitrogen and that should cure the problem. You want to cut the nitrogen out in the fall unless you don't receive any rain then some nitrogen would be appropriate.
Growing in pots and watering everyday will deplete the nutrients faster then in the ground so they require more fertilizer.

    Bookmark     July 20, 2007 at 5:03AM
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huey_ga(z7)

Mack, The 1' foot bed will work but the roots will be constrained somewhat and will just grow in a linear way instead of going out in all directions. The feeder roots are about 1" below the surface and can go out in all directions up to 2' in gathering nutrients. Dahlias can grow well while being crowded so it should work but 2' wide would be better.
The ideal raised bed for dahlias is a width of four feet and as long as you would like. This allows tending of the plants from both sides of the bed without walking in the beds. 10" or 12" wide boards are best. 8" boards will work but most articles I have read recommend the higher boards.
I grow in raised beds 8'x 12' with some 8" and some 10" boards. If I had to do it over I would have 4' wide beds.
Check out the Growing Guide on the DS of GA website if you haven't already, under the menu item Dahlias That Grow Well in the South.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlia Society of Georgia

    Bookmark     July 20, 2007 at 4:57AM
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monjolijardin(z10 CA)

It has been three months since I planted my Karma Dahlia about 6" below the current soil line (see picture below). At planting time, the tuber was only covered by an inch of soil. As the plant grew, I added soil to finally reach the current soil line.

It seems to me that the plant has stopped growing for the last three to four weeks even though I have been fertilizing it every two weeks.

Any idea to what I should do to "restart" the growing process. Thanks for your input.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2007 at 12:21PM
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beingbebe(6)

I was given several dahlia tubers today. Here in NY they are already blooming. I don't think I should plant them because they need to be lifted in the fall. I don't know what to do with them or how to store them Will they survive till next spring?
Also, I got some canna, same story.
Help!

    Bookmark     July 19, 2007 at 9:07PM
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Noni Morrison

Yes the colors change, the flowers are smaller and fewer flowers as the daylight dwindles. If you have the least bit of frost it will kill the foliage and that will be it for the year. My friend's house is in zone 9 area and she has had a few blooms on Cafe au Lait into December. They are hadly recognizable but still welcome addithons to the Christmas greenery we use starting after Thanksgiving. Note that I Am not talking about all the others she raises, cafe au lait seems to be our lateness winner. Mine are always wiped out by frost in an 8b area by late November, at which time I may loose a few pale, half opened blooms.

    Bookmark     July 18, 2007 at 1:22PM
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bellegallica(9)

Thank you for the reply.

This spring I planted out some 'Figaro' dahlias that I had grown from seed. Since we'd been having summer droughts the past couple of years, I decided to plant them in a low-lying area. But this year we had rain and more rain, and that area stayed waterlogged far too long. Some of the dahlias died. A few have made it, but don't look nearly as nice as they did before the rains started.

I wanted to start some more seeds now and have them ready to go out (in a different area of course) when the weather begins to cool. Based on your post, I think it just may work. No harm in trying. I can always replace them with pansies if they don't make it.

    Bookmark     July 18, 2007 at 11:03PM
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covella

No don't dig in there to separate it - the stalks are coming up from a potato-like tuber. You can't separate them at this point. In the fall when they die back after your first hard frost, you can lift the whole mass of tubers and clean/divide/store them. There are detailed instructions and pictures at dahlia.com or in the archives of this forum.

You can increase the size of blooms by disbudding or disbranching - removing some of the buds or branches to put more energy toward the remaining buds, but that is something more usually done by those who want to take their flowers to a competition. I'd say keep it watered, and make sure you are using a fertilizer low in nitrogen, like a tomato fertilizer, bone meal, or I use Bulbtone. There are lots of opinions on this also, some people use Miracle-Gro for example, but most dahlia websites recommend using a fertilizer that is lower in N than P and K. Good for you, I hope you got a super deal on the price too!

    Bookmark     July 17, 2007 at 8:10AM
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mingusalex2007

Thanks so much for showing us your beautiful Dahlia! What a beauty!

    Bookmark     July 16, 2007 at 2:48AM
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covella

Thats exactly how I got hooked on dahlias too! Only it was Otto's Thrill. That red in Barbarossa is wonderful. It would look fab with a sky-blue like with balloon flower wouldn't it? Your dahlia looks very healthy keep doing what you're doing.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2007 at 8:03AM
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peachguy

CRAP

    Bookmark     July 15, 2007 at 9:57AM
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savona(z2bBCCanada)

It is gorgeous!..not crap at all...lol...savona

    Bookmark     July 17, 2007 at 4:36AM
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covella

I didn't hear anything that would indicate an insect infestation. Sounds more like chlorosis to me, or too heavy soil, poor root development, too much water, etc.
I'd make sure the site drains well for the tubers and feed with bone meal, tomato fertilizer or Espoma's Bulbtone.

Nitrogen promotes foliage development and you do want that, but in a bulb or tuber, you don't want a high N fertilizer - it will rot them out. You want a fertilizer that promotes root and flower production - a higher Phosphorous and Potassium level than Nitrogen.

This year I'm trying something new, in the garden I amended with Sweet Peet and composted wood chips to improve drainage and porosity and double layered Bulbtone down in the planting holes. I also grow 60 gallon containers of dahlias on the deck where my mix is very porous this year - I'm using 40% composted wood mulch, 40% Sweet Peet and the remainder is ProMix - a peat based soil-less container mix that holds water. I double layered the Bulbtone in there also to give the roots something to grow to. And just getting ready for first extra fertilizer application - I will use Mighty Plant 2 times, July and August then stop because it has a lot of N. According to Dahlias.org, you stop the high N fertilizers in August because a tuber that has been over-fertilized will have a greater tendency to rot over the winter. I've done this in the past with good results.

    Bookmark     July 15, 2007 at 11:07AM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

OK but better to treat for insects first. By the time you go through all the chlorosis remedies the plants may well be dead. Steve in Baltimore County

    Bookmark     July 15, 2007 at 6:00PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

there are any number of insecticides to treat for thrips. Sevin a good start or Safer Soap or horticultural oil. You might want to try systemic granules as a follow up.Steve in Baltimore County

    Bookmark     July 15, 2007 at 5:56PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

One of the real easy ways is to place some vermiculite in a brown paper bag. Wash the newly dug tuber and while still damp put it in the paper bag and cover with vermiculite. Leave the bag open. Sprinkle with a little water occasionally during the winter. If you have a nice cool place to store it should be raring to go come springtime. Steve in Baltimore County.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2007 at 3:38PM
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huey_ga(z7)

I would leave them in the tub and move the tub into a garage or area that stays cool but doesn't freeze. Plant your poppy seeds somewhere else and then transplant them into the tub after hard freezes are over and the tub is back outside. The dahlias should take light freezes if no top growth is showing.
This solution is easier for the novice dahlia grower than trying to keep the tubers inside after digging them.

    Bookmark     July 15, 2007 at 12:33AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

FERN RIDGE PAINTED LADY DanÂs Dahlias

FERN RIDGE PAINTED LADY Mingus Dahlias

FERN RIDGE PAINTED LADY Parks Dahlias

Those 3 vendors have them according to the Big List of dahlia varieties/sellers. I can recommend Dan's Dahlias from experience, but don't know the others (yet.)

The 'Big List' is another great feature of the Colorado Dahlia Society website and one that everyone serious about dahlias should have bookmarked, for all kinds of helpful information.

Here is a link that might be useful: www.dahlias.net just bookmark it

    Bookmark     July 13, 2007 at 10:27PM
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