3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Stubborn things !!

Well, if they have eyes , are not mushy or stinky, nor dried out, that about covers it.
Anyone else have any wisdom to share about this?

    Bookmark     May 18, 2007 at 9:44PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

I find that sometimes dahlias are like petulant children. They will come up when they are good and ready. Often the ones that come up later, come on gangbusters when the sun gets warmer, and the light suits their needs, and they often become the stronger plants. Not always though, but often.

I agree with Grannymarsh. All the basics seem to be in good condition, so wait and see.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2007 at 2:38PM
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huey_ga(z7)

Joanie I grew them in San Antonio for a number of years and we have a member in the Georgia Dahlia Society that grew them in central Florida. They grow dahlias in Australia in 110 degree heat so it can be done.

The issues are, do you have the time and devotion to give them the extra care that will be required? Another issue is selection of dahlias that are heat tolerant. A list of these tubers is found on the DS of Georgia website but that page is currently down. It should be back up tomorrow or the next day.
The secret to growing dahlias in the heat is to take steps, constant watering, mulching, and attention, to make sure they live through the heat until the cool fall temperatures arrive in your area. Then you will be rewarded with beautiful blooms just like in the cooler regions of the country.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlia Society of Georgia

    Bookmark     May 20, 2007 at 5:41AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

It is certainly worthy of a try. My neighbour has one, and it works well. I don't think he had it running for an hour, but we are in a much more moderate growing zone, here in southern Ontario.

To avoid the mildew problem, be sure to pinch off the lower 4 inches of leaves ( when the plant gets mature enough), so there is an air flow. Other than that, watch it carefully, and if you see mold developing, change the situations somehow, by either reducing the water flow, or pinching the leaves higher.

To be honest, I have seriously thought about doing something similar.

Keep us posted.

    Bookmark     May 18, 2007 at 6:46AM
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organic_tosca(9/Sunset 14)

Dear Jroot - THANK YOU! I had almost despaired of anyone answering my question. I have already planted the tub with white, lavender-pink, and carmine Cosmos in the middle and dark blue Crystal Palace lobelia around the edges ALONG WITH: several adorable plants selling at the nursery under the name "Dahliaettes". The miniature or dwarf dahlias are beautiful, with flowers in a wonderful shade of warm pink. I went to the nursery in a neighboring town and fell in love with these little plants. I've been tinkering with the amount of water that comes out of the sprinklers and have fine-tuned it so that the plants don't get battered. Your advice about the lower leaves is EXACTLY what I needed to know - the dahlias are so compact and sort of dense that I am concerned about mold, etc. We generally have a dry climate here throughout the summer, but I'm sure the mold could still happen - I just didn't know what to do about it. I will post an update on the situation - whether the sprinklers work out or not. I really hope they do - aside from the practical aspects, they are wonderful to watch. (Of course, I am seldom up at four a.m., but I see them when I'm adjusting them in the daytime). Thank you again! Laura

    Bookmark     May 19, 2007 at 6:29PM
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calpat(zone9ab No.Ca.)

Oh Nick, I had my first cicada experience some years ago in Silver City, N.M. When I first heard the "noise" I thought I was having an out of world experience, then my neighbor explained the cicada cycle and from then on it was a rather pleasant, learning experience. At that time I had a wonderful collection of Mums, Iris and veggies. Nothing was touched by these critters, once in a lifetime experience, enjoy!

    Bookmark     May 19, 2007 at 12:19PM
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nick_c

thanks calpat!

I'm in complete agreement, once I get past the paranoia about the safety of my dahlias, personally I think cicadas are COOL!

In my case I'm old enough that 51 years ago was the year before I was born, I remember them when I was 16, don't remember them 17 years ago but this time around (my third time) I am actually looking forward to it :)

    Bookmark     May 19, 2007 at 1:36PM
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mollyzone5

That is the exact position mine are in every year,and they do wonderfully there.The very first Dahlia(dinnerplate) that I ever grew was planted there and I was told it wasn't enough sun.Well it grew over 4 feet tall and bloomed like crazy,it is the perfect spot.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2007 at 8:55AM
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lila_newgardener(8)

Thanks Molly! I feel better now. Now I am just worried about the Fushias I planted in part sun. After I planted a ton of them, Ciscoe said to never plant them in direct sun.. Just my luck!

    Bookmark     May 18, 2007 at 4:30PM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

What is "Myke" ?

    Bookmark     May 18, 2007 at 3:55PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

The son- aka David --will make anything for $$$'s! He sells them around here but I think they'd be somewhat awkward to ship anywhere but I'm sure he'd try if anyone wanted him to!

    Bookmark     April 25, 2007 at 2:30AM
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linnea56(z5 IL)

Where did he get the finials? I'd like to try making some.

    Bookmark     May 16, 2007 at 8:44PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

smj0730,

Topping is not necessary. In nature, the plant wouild grow without being pinched back. If you wish to show in a garden competition, then you would want nice tall straight stems, so you wouldn't "top" at all.

However, if you are not showing, and wish more flowers, albeit a little later, then you can pinch back the stem to force it to produce more shoots out the side. This will create a bushier plant. I do this here, as I do not show, but prefer more flowers. So when it gets taller, I pinch back to above several true leaves. We are in a completely different growing zone than you, so I feel confident in doing this here early in the season as the plant is growing. In your zone and if your plant is about 2.5 feet tall, you may have hollow stems already in the lower part of the plant. I don't pinch back that low as I don't want water getting into the hollow stems and rotting the stem / plant.

Pinching back takes place early in the growing season. As I see it, it really is a means of shaping the plant in its early stages to a shape more to your preference. I hope that helps. Other growers may have differing opinions as well.

    Bookmark     May 16, 2007 at 8:59AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

florafauna,

I would plant them in potting soil in pots ( because we still expect frost here for another few weeks). Then I would take them outside into the garden area, but because they are in pots I can bring them into the garage for protection in case of frost. If you do not expect any more frost, then you could plant directly into the ground.

I would plant them with just the tip of the shoots above the ground. They will form nice roots down below, and the plant will start to open its leaves above ground level for you. When it gets taller, the lowest leaves should be pinched off so that the lowest leaves are at least 4 inches off the ground.

I don't think that I would add too much manure now, until the leaves start to open. Then they would appreciate it. At this point, it is important to establish roots. Later, you will want to establish the upper plant, and then the FLOWERS, which is what it is all about.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2007 at 9:29PM
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florafauna(6 Boston)

Thanks so much jroot! I read so many posts that I became confused with all the information. The reason I was going to add the manure is because the bed I'm putting them in doesn't have the best dirt (silty) so I usually just add manure when I add a new plant since I can't amend the whole bed. I'll try it without adding the manure.

Thanks again!

    Bookmark     May 14, 2007 at 11:12PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Sounds bad, sorry. Perhaps some info at the link will be able to help you. Keep up the slug bait for sure, but perhaps an additional treatment or approach is in order. Slugs usually work from the margins of the leaves here (if they don't get the whole sprout.) I can't imagine them leaving a lacy pattern.

Please report back what you find. Maybe a county extension office can help you if you take in a sample leaf?

Here is a link that might be useful: pests

    Bookmark     May 13, 2007 at 5:46PM
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tatchik13

okie. i recently had something happen... ive got dahlias growing in pots sitting on my balcony ledge... the largest one WAS about 2 1/4 feet tall, and i dont know how but it fell off... 1 story and broke the stalk, cracked right in the middle and i decided i was going to keep it, [mourning because it was my first, and about to bloom] and new growth has started where the stalk broke, mind you i didnt detatch the broken part, ive just been removing the dead vegitation when it appears. SO it is hopeful... :D GL!!!

    Bookmark     May 13, 2007 at 12:16PM
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misslucinda

Dahliaboy, I am in Pound Ridge, NY --next to Bedford and above New Canaan, CT.

Glad-- Yes, my current bed is on the southside of my house and my dahlias and climbing roses love it too.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2007 at 4:34PM
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dahliaboy

Hi Keith:
Looks like you're not too far from my house. I used to take my dog to Ward Acres before the ban. My cousin
installed the drip system for me. I have it in my raised beds and in all my pots and boxes. The Harts Brook Preserve is off of Ridge Road in Hartsdale.

Email me @ EBonci@msn.com and we'll arrange a time and
day for you to visit. I'll be planting my dahlias at Harts Brook on Monday and in my yard on Tuesday and Wed.

Dahlia Boy

    Bookmark     May 13, 2007 at 11:46AM
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misslucinda

Jroot,

Excellent link. Wish I had known about the newspaper trick before I potted my undivided clumps. In point of fact, wish I had known it was ok to divide sprouted/leafy tubers.

Jim,

Found your website and put it in my favorite places for next spring. And yes, you are absolutely right, dahlias are not that hard to grow (which is why I love 'em)--just labor intensive.

On your reccomendation I am taking my little plastic dahlia containing packages out from under the grow light.

Thank you to all,

Patricia

    Bookmark     April 29, 2007 at 11:15AM
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misslucinda

Update. The peeling, sere-looking tuber has finally developed an eye. I am floored!

Thanks again.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2007 at 4:38PM
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