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Posted by grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH) October 7, 2006
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toennchen

hello from Germany,

what a beautiful dahlia. I have never seen it in Germany. Where did you buy this dahlia. Please give me the adress. May be that I can import it.

In 2007 we will open a dahlia-garden (only with members of our forum) with 3.000 dahlias and for this garden I am looking for dahlias which I did not find in Germany.

Thank you in advance.
Toennchen

    Bookmark     November 22, 2006 at 1:39PM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Hope this helps. I really like this dahlia. It is an attention getter. Unfortunately, it was not much of a tuber maker, so I am hoping that the mother tuber survives the winter and that I can make cuttings from sprouts. The photo will give you an idea of the bloom size.

Here is a link that might be useful: Shiloh Dahlias

    Bookmark     November 25, 2006 at 8:43PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

Yes you can save it from year to year- there's no way we could afford not to. Just make sure you store it over the summer in tightly sealed plastic bags & where it won't get wet- it'll seep up any water it comes into contact with if in a gunney sack or loosely woven bag-- & as Poochella said, toss any that has had a rotted tuber in it.

    Bookmark     November 24, 2006 at 10:56PM
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red9

Thanks, Poochella and Plantlady, it helps to know i will be able to save some money.. All the Dahlia i grow are for the gardens at a care home for the elderly where i work.. I worked in mining most of my life and took up gardening 2 years ago, and enjoying every minute of it, but have a lot to learn :)
I put about a table spoon of sulphur or a little less in the bags with about 4 or 5 handfulls of vermiculite depending on how many tubers went in and gave it a good shake.

    Bookmark     November 25, 2006 at 5:41AM
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toennchen

Hello poochella and all the other dahlia-friends,
for me it is very interesting to read how you store your dahlias during the winter.
Here I give my e-mail addr. I would like to mail to this forum some pictures of nice dahlias, but I don't know how to do. Thank you in advance for an answer.
Regards from Germany
Toennchen kague.zinke@t-online.de

    Bookmark     November 22, 2006 at 1:55PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Hi Toennchen,
I just posted a test of a couple photos of yours right from your website, along with instructions on how to do it, in the Gallery section of this forum. I'll post a link below, otherwise, go to the "Gallery" near the top of this page; see On Topic Discussions: "Switch to Gallery" Click on the Gallery, then see "Kenora Superb" and read there.

You have some lovely dahlias, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to see what you grow in Germany.
Poochella

Here is a link that might be useful: Link to posting photos.

    Bookmark     November 22, 2006 at 9:58PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Good point Plantlady. I would love to have a dahlia at Easter, but I'm usually begging the weather gods to warm it up right about then. And in May. And again in June....

I just can't picture your poor hubby out there with thousands of clumps. I bet he could dig and divide in his sleep by now- maybe he does! I've had pretty good luck with tubers in vermiculite for storage too, just a bit of shrivelling, not too bad. Just don't have the room for it here.

I have had some tenacious clumps cast aside as garbage by the sunny side of the garage and forgotten. They've gone on to sprout healthy plants come the following June. And we freeze out here in the foothills for up to a week or more! I was so sick of being wet and cold this year that I lobbed many divided waste clumps into the border of the woods/lawn that gets about 4-5 hours of sun. It was done a) out of laziness and b) to see just who's tough enough to send up some shoots next Spring. If I don't get around to cleaning them up by then, I'll bet there are a few that survive the wet and cold winter, all alone without vermiculite, peat or Saran Wrap to protect them. Maybe we baby these hardy little buggers a bit too much with all our methods and madness?

    Bookmark     November 22, 2006 at 12:41AM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

Our tubers take up remarkably little room for the amount that there are. The husband lines milk crates with newspaper then puts in vermiculite, then more tubers, more vermiculite, etc. until the crate is about 3/4 full. Label on the outside of the crate as well as in with the tubers so he can tell what's what from the outside, then stacked about 5-6 high around the walls of the cold room in the basement. The ones that we don't have many of- mostly seedlings that we're not introducing for 2 or more years-- go into 1 gal black tubs like you get perennials in. You can get more than you think in a 1 gal pot. He puts masking tape over the holes in the bottoms- tubers in, vermiculite shaken down through to cover the tubers, label on the outside of each pot & 4 pots fit perfectly into one milk crate. I'm always surprised at how little room the thousands of tubers we have take up- & how few we lose over the winter. It's by far the best method we've ever tried- & we've tried most of them- including the Saran method which resulted in over 500 blobs of anonymous brown goo when I did it! Yeuch!!
Oh, yeah- & if you saw him chopping about with his machetti when he's cutting them up you wouldn't think they're babied- more like scared to death!

    Bookmark     November 22, 2006 at 2:13AM
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Belle of BarmeraThe form on this one isn't quite fully developed, I love the color!!
Posted by grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH) October 7, 2006
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irish_rose_grower(z7 LI NY)

very pretty, i like the color too

    Bookmark     November 20, 2006 at 7:13PM
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irish_rose_grower(z7 LI NY)

What a pretty shot. The bloom looks like candy.
Maureen

    Bookmark     November 20, 2006 at 7:06PM
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calpat(zone9ab No.Ca.)

Thanks for response Poochella! nice to hear from you again. Yes I did order from reputable supplier. Got out the paper work and I did screw up a bit on the odering dates vs. delivery dates. No biggie! just curious! While everyone else is in the process of digging, tagging for next season, I'm just beginning to enjoy the blooms that I have right now! Will not dig this year, but leave well enough alone. DD was over & spotted by Dahlia Bible, all the info. you and JRoot provided us with last year. "Mom, you gotta read the instructions", really hate it when she's right! Got aluminum tags, plastic bags, etc. good to go!

    Bookmark     November 20, 2006 at 11:55AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

DDs are soooooo good at giving advice! Especially when it's advice we've tried to pound into their own heads over the years. "Look thoroughly" often comes back to haunt me when I'm searching for something around here.....

Enjoy your flowers. Get some photos if you can.

    Bookmark     November 20, 2006 at 2:50PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

If it was wet & you didn't "milk" the pods they might have rotted. If they were late blooming they wouldn't have ripened enough. If you used insecticide when the plants were in bloom you might have done in the bugs that would have pollinated the blooms. If the bees weren't there when the plants were in bloom, you need to flit about w/ paintbrush in hand like I do & pretend you're the bees! :)

    Bookmark     November 19, 2006 at 1:31AM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

A friend uses lots of horse manure & the dahlias love it. Another uses manure tea & they love it, too.

    Bookmark     November 18, 2006 at 4:43PM
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digsdahlias(z8WA)

thanks -- you're right about the water, where does it go? It puddles up and sits for awhile and doesn't drain down thru', 'cause of the hardpan - I'm surprised actually I didn't have a whole bed of rotten ones!! Will have to start amending the bed when I get the raised bed built -- hated to move, my last dahlia bed had wonderful soil, built up from compost over 10 years, wish I could have brought it with me. Where about's your farm - do you open it to the public in summer? Kathy

    Bookmark     November 14, 2006 at 12:05AM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

We're east of Ferndale, WA - about 13 miles south of the Canadian border. Yes, we do let people come & look at our gardens in summer as long as they call ahead & let us know they're coming so someone can be here to show them around.

    Bookmark     November 16, 2006 at 9:58PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Throw an old towel or layers of newspaper over the clumps so they don't dry out too much and they will be happily waiting for you Saturday. Should be fine.

    Bookmark     November 15, 2006 at 6:08PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

Don't let them sit directly on cement- it dries them out something fierce.

    Bookmark     November 16, 2006 at 9:51PM
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hemnancy(z8 PNW)

Thompson and Morgan, and Park's Seeds, both have several varieties of dahlia seeds. T & M has large cactus, double, and pompom varieties, and both carry dwarf varieties, collette, and dark foliage ones like Bishop's Children, Redskin, and Diablo. There is a thread on Stargazer dahlias from seed from Park's, but the photos no longer load.:-(

Anyone have good reports on specific dahlias they started from seed? I'm tempted to try 5 or 6 different ones.

Dahlias from seed may not resemble the parent exactly but will be a certain type and may be something entirely new and exciting. Also there are single species flowers that I imagine would come true to the parent since they have not been hybridized.

    Bookmark     November 4, 2006 at 6:27PM
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ornata(London UK (8/9?))

Dahlia coccinea var Palmeri. I got seed of this from Plant World in Devon - http://www.plant-world-seeds.com/
In my opinion they're more attractive than 'Bishop of Llandaff', with finely dissected, very dark foliage and lovely deep red flowers with a darker centre, rather than the yellow centre of 'Llandaff'.

'Bishop's Children' is a good seed mixture and widely available.

I grew a cactus-flowered mix as well (I can't remember where from, but again seed is widely available) which produced mixed results. Most of the plants had lovely flowers in a range of colours, but some had rather lax stems. You just have to wait and see, and keep the best ones.

I've also grown saved seed and got some attractive plants. It's definitely worth doing.

    Bookmark     November 15, 2006 at 11:59AM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

If you ever need to find a supplier for dahlias just go to the Colorado Dahlia Society site & look at the "Big List". The Colorado Dahlia Society site also has a list of suppliers complete with addresses, so that when you find someplace that has the one you want you can find out how to contact them.

Here is a link that might be useful: Colorado Dahlia Society Big List

    Bookmark     November 12, 2006 at 5:12PM
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linnea56(z5 IL)

I found them at Lowe's last spring (06).

    Bookmark     November 14, 2006 at 9:22PM
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dahliaboy

One of my favorites is Walter Hardisty....It's a white
informal decorative that gets up to 12-14 inches across.
DB

    Bookmark     November 14, 2006 at 10:04AM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

White Alva's, Spike, Lula Patti, Kenora Clyde, Hy Mom -- all pure white. Ivory Palaces- while classed as yellow is more of an off white in the ivory color range & huge. Look in the Big List on the Colorado Dahlia Society site to find suppliers. Oh, yeah--- & PLEASE call them AA sized, not dinner plates >:)

    Bookmark     November 14, 2006 at 9:21PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

beautiful. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure this will bring her some orders.

    Bookmark     November 13, 2006 at 8:47AM
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