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Poochella(7 WA)

I would just guess something got to the tuber: either rot or disease or varmint. In zone 9 you should be up if not blooming by now.

If you know where the plant should be, why not carefully dust off the overlying soil and feel for a sprig of green? If you find nothing you can carefully dig where you think the tubers might be and see what's going on underground. Otherwise, you might be waiting all year for and have a big hole in your garden for nothing. I'd say investigate!

    Bookmark     June 21, 2006 at 12:17AM
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tracm(9 CA)

Thank you for the suggestion. I will investigate the area today. I thought it strange because my other Dahlias are all up and blooming.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2006 at 10:16AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Depends on the variety totutoise. Most dahlias take 70-90 days to bloom. If you check the MId Island Dahlia Society website, many of them don't look to plant until late May, into June anyway. You'd only be behind a couple weeks.

Here is a link that might be useful: Mid Island Dahlia Society NY

    Bookmark     June 21, 2006 at 12:08AM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Plant them !! i am still getting cuttings in the ground. They'll just bloom later than the others. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2006 at 9:57AM
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ElaineW(z5 MA)

Thanks Granny. I decided to just keep planting and I put everything in that I could find a spot for. The rest will go to the plant swap.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2006 at 7:06AM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Check it out.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlia diseases

    Bookmark     June 19, 2006 at 10:15AM
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RDogg(Z10 SFL)

Finally a pic for you!

I've decided I'm quite happy with the pansies. The colors are refreshing during the long period of green growth. I even like the slightly leggy over the side of the container look this time of year.

I guess I answered my own question.

Also a pic of the sago (I can't resist):

    Bookmark     June 17, 2006 at 1:45PM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Nice photos, thanks for sharing.
It appears that your dahlias are looking healthy, tubers being produced might get crowded but cross that bridge later. Keep them fertilized with a low nitrogen fertilizer because the soil nutrients may get depleted quickly living in the pots. Keep us updated with your progress.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2006 at 10:13AM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Did you go ahead and plant them? Most dahlias need to be staked as they get so top heavy with all the beautiful blooms. I would think that the spot you described would have enough sun. Dahlias need well drained soil. Read the FAQ for digging and storage info. And then ask more questions. It isn't hard work, just takes some time and energy.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2006 at 10:08AM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Water (after they've started growing) well drained soil. Mid-day shade might be beneficial.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2006 at 9:59AM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Carefully, very carefully, dig up or around the tuber and see what is happening to it. It might be rotting. Has it been a wet season for you?

    Bookmark     June 19, 2006 at 9:56AM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

There might be a nasty little friend munching inside your flower buds, try using a sytemic insecticide such as Bayer.

And some dahlias are taller than others.
IMHO, they are not that fussy or they wouldn't last long around here.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2006 at 9:53AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

On the holes in the leaves I would guess slugs, possibly a caterpiller or other wormy thing but they tend to snuggle up in my blooms and dine, not in the foliage. Slugs are big foliage afficionados.

You don't say how far along your buds are, but in my experience black spots can also be pest poop. I've not had black spots on buds, that I recall. It might be worthwhile to let the buds open and see if there is any harm being done before coming up with a treatment plan. Do any of the leaves have black spots? Botrytis is one disease that can affect dahlias.
See if anything at the link below jumps out as a possibile cause.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlia diseases

    Bookmark     June 15, 2006 at 3:17PM
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Loretta NJ Z6

My SIL dahlias made it through also in Z6. They were planted close to the foundation. Hers already have buds. I don't even have mine in the gound yet.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2006 at 12:04PM
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linnea56(z5 IL)

I think it was a mild winter in our area (I'm Chicago area). I have glads coming up: and I hadn't bothered to pull them before last winter.

Now I wish I had left the dahlias: as I lost all of mine to rot in winter storage. Maybe I should have left well enough alone and left them in the ground!

    Bookmark     June 15, 2006 at 12:32PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

I agree with Poochella. It sounds like slugs to me. Almost every day, I have to pick them off and cast them back to the bush.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2006 at 10:03PM
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ornata(London UK (8/9?))

Do slugs eat flowers as well as leaves?

The only sure way of finding out what's eating them would be to go out after dark with a torch and catch the "eaters" in the act. If it's slugs/snails, I can recommend using slug pellets that contain iron phosphate instead of metaldehyde - it doesn't seem to harm any wildlife other than the slugs/snails themselves (although research could prove this not to be the case - as with most things that sound too good to be true!) If it's earwigs, then do as Plantlady2 advises. You can use plant-pots as well as cups.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2006 at 5:39AM
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slate_stone(z6Tn)

Apply rooting hormone and it will grow roots. Not to worry it should come up from the ground again.
Slate

    Bookmark     June 10, 2006 at 9:49PM
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ornata(London UK (8/9?))

That's how I've stored some of mine in the past, but in my unheated greenhouse, and I didn't lose any to rot or dessication.

I can't offer any advice on dividing tubers but I'm sure others can. My only thought is that perhaps dividing really large tubers on plants that are several years old will boost the vigour of the plant?

As to pinching buds, I've only heard of people doing that when they're preparing Dahlias for flower shows (pinch out the flower buds below a main bud, so that all the energy goes into producing one large flower per stem). What I do try to remember to do is to pinch out the growing tips several times so that the plants make lots of side-shoots, grow bushier and give more flowers.

I also have lots of 'Bishop's Children' grown from seed last year. They went in the ground far too late last year, having been neglected and pot-bound for months, then had to endure an unusually cold winter (the ground froze solid several times) with probably inadequate mulch... but they've all come back! Some of them were still so small when they were planted that they didn't manage to flower last year, so I'm waiting excitedly to see what I'll get. They really are beautiful plants, both for foliage and flower colour.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2006 at 7:15AM
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juliaw(7b/Sunset 5 -- PNW)

Thank you so much for your answer!

I actually have a little space for planting in the front yard, and since 29 of the 30 seeds I started have turned into robust little plants, I feel that I have enough Dahlias to turn this into an experiment:

I'm goint to plant the Dahlias with the least purple/bronze in them in the ground and leave them there for the winter. My front yard stays several degrees warmer than the back and it slopes enough to keep the soil from getting completely saturated like the flat back yard. With some rain-resistant mulch -- like fern fronds, which I have plenty of -- I'm willing to bet that they survive the winter.

The darkest Dahlias are going in pots and overwintering in the crawlspace, the medium ones are going in the ground and getting dug up and stored as usual in the winter.

This thread will be long gone from this forum by next spring, I'm sure, but I'll come back and let everyone know how it went.

Thanks again!

    Bookmark     June 9, 2006 at 11:30AM
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pitimpinai(z6 Chicago)

:-P Thank you, Willow & Poochella. You are good for my ego. :-D I had to fight to arrange them my way. Now they treat me gingerly or the gardener/arranger disappears. :-)

Poochella, those are curly Willow stems from the same tree I gave you cuttings. I also have two huge clumps of perennial Helianthus to divide. And a few well rooted Cornus alba 'Ivory Halo' and Cornus sanguinea 'Winterflame'. 'Winterflame' suckers, but I love the color of the stems. They are stunning in the middle of winter. The yellowish green leaves are pretty all summer long too.

The wedding is over, right? You have time to plant?
Thanks again for the compliments.

    Bookmark     September 18, 2005 at 6:08AM
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bouquet_kansas(z6Ks)

these arrangements are so beautiful....you are very talented!!!!!!!!

    Bookmark     June 8, 2006 at 2:20AM
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