3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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pitimpinai(z6 Chicago)

Good for you! They'll be pretty.

Last weekend I went to the Salvation Army store and bought an aluminum mini blind for $2.00. There're 80 slats from which I'll probably make at least 400 tags. I wrote with a pencil and it worked. I'm quite happy with that.

    Bookmark     December 2, 2005 at 7:57AM
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linnea56(z5 IL)

Lee Valley has some really nice things. I get their tool catalog too. I was considering those tags. Do you think they are worth while? I wonder how thick they are.

    Bookmark     December 8, 2005 at 2:19PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

Moonlight Sonata- always gone!

    Bookmark     December 5, 2005 at 1:37AM
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tcgreene7(Spokane)

Thanks everyone for your input. Does "dollar store" spray work as well?

I also use a strong bleach water for a short time to remove the mildew. Then i cut wherever it looks rotten and do the sulfur thing.

then its vermiculite, or sawdust depending on my mood.

Thanks!

    Bookmark     November 30, 2005 at 8:12PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Tc, I would do your cutting first- definitely get rid of anything soft or rotten, then bleach water dip or Lysol spray (I've used that too on fresh cuts and it DOES work great.) That way you've got potential rot hopefully cut out and can add further protection to that fresh cut tissue with the bleach or lysol.

I don't know why you're having such trouble with mildew on your clumps, are they getting enough air circulation while drying? I have just dug, divided, labelled, treated, dried overnight and wrapped mine in as little as 24 hours, or 48, and no problem with mildew.

I hope you have some luck halting the mildew. Am not familiar with dollar store spray. Is it similar to lysol?

    Bookmark     November 30, 2005 at 9:36PM
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putzer(z4 WI)

Looking at all of your pictures, I have fallen in love with the waterlily types. And the coloring has a real delicate-ness about it.

    Bookmark     November 27, 2005 at 10:03PM
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pitimpinai(z6 Chicago)

Poochella,
I am sorry you lost all your Bracken Ballerina. In spring, I'll send you the best I got - that is if I have not mangled them all.

Putzer, I think I like them all, but the laciniated did not do well for me in arrangements. Maybe we cut them too late.

    Bookmark     November 29, 2005 at 6:42PM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Nice photos, Willow !! Goodwill 90 is a beauty. Thanks for sharing.

    Bookmark     September 29, 2005 at 11:04PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

I found a large photo of Goodwill 90 lurking in my files from this year. Willow yours have much richer pink than mine. Must be the alfalfa pellets, sun or ??? I am constantly amazed at the variation an hour of sun or different soil can bring in the same bloom in different years or locations.

    Bookmark     November 29, 2005 at 1:33AM
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dahlias(western wa.)

I see in the forum how you grew tree dahlias from cutting's.I had cutting's and they did not work for me. Do you sell tree dahlia tuber's or do know were i can find them.

    Bookmark     November 11, 2005 at 2:11PM
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Dewofthesea(sunset17 usda9)

Hello AptosCA, I live nearby and I'm looking for some tree dahlias--I had a really nice white one, left it behind when I moved from Mt. View to Pacific Grove. Would you have a stalk I can have?
Let me know,
thanks

    Bookmark     November 28, 2005 at 11:22PM
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jamlover(z4 Iowa)

Poochella, I ran across that article and thought I've found it until I read it and it only mentioned 3 blooms.
I've also gathered that the smaller blooms tend to be more abundant on the plant__correct??
I suppose the ones available at WalMart, Lowes and Home Depot are more likely to be what I'm looking for as garden dahlias. Or at local garden centers. I ordered mine from 2 of the NW growers and guess I didn't do the best, choosing pretty faces and awards they have won.

    Bookmark     November 26, 2005 at 7:20PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

The Derrill Hart winners are definately show blooms but not exclusively show dahlias. They are grown in trial gardens all over the country & in Canada & are judged numerous times during the season by any & all senior & accredited judges that show up at the gardens. The highest scoring dahlia in it's catagory will win the Hart award. One of the things the judges are looking for is the number of blooms on the plant.
So there you go- if you purchase a Hart winner you'll be getting an exceptional dahlia-- not your regular blue-light special!

    Bookmark     November 28, 2005 at 4:35PM
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Kerstin_Linnea(Z5, chicago)

Hehehehe,
I wouldn't say hubby is all that devoted, we have been married for 4 years now and just about ironing out the wrinkles,
He may roll his eyes all he wants over trees that needs to be pruned, if he wants me to keep make meat balls and cure salmon for him , this is the trade off...hehehehe, it's all give and take I figure...
-they did dry up for the last week and I took my old painting brushes to them yesterday, apart from having a couple soft and semimushy ( I cut them off and tossed) I did not see any rot, but I left all the small roots and have a hard time determine what the eyes are, very few I think... they are stored in saw dust inside a paperbag inside a old canvas bag, in my closet.
I dunked the whole crown, didn't take anything apart.. is that a mistake?

I am intriuged by the naming of the kenora MACOB b. I have however no idea who Gourdie Leroux is, do care to elaborate plantlady?
Thanks,klk
oh, by the way, I have a new page when I get in to gweb. so far It absolutly SUCKS.
It took me about three days to be able to reenter the site, anybody knows whats going on?
Don't tell me we are all gonna ahve start paying for it...?
sigh..
ds.

    Bookmark     November 26, 2005 at 7:21PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

Gordie Leroux is one of the world's foremost dahlia hybridizers. Anything with a "Kenora" in front of the name is one of Gordie's. He also has another line but I can't think of the name right now- but the Kenora ones are his most famous.
I also had trouble getting onto this site- it asked me for my user name & password - good thing I wrote the password down as I couldn't remember any of the above!!- User Name didn't even click-- Oh yeah!! Plantlady2!

    Bookmark     November 28, 2005 at 4:27PM
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jamlover(z4 Iowa)

Wow, sounds like you did it right!!! Composted manure I'm sure didn't hurt. My only fertilizer anymore is sheep berries and I hesitate to use to much and end up with a lot of green growth.

    Bookmark     November 26, 2005 at 7:24PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Diane, just to clarify; every tuber DOES need an eye to have a chance at producing a plant next year. You see the eyes at the time of fall division. (see the multi photo posts on this forum about division or finding eyes) Or you may not see them, but suspect a place on the stem end of the tuber that MAY produce an eye in warmer weather. They may not. There are plenty of tubers that are broken, damaged, or eyeless that get thrown away when cutting up a clump.

Raul had good advice, just try a portion in Saran/plastic wrap and store the others as you have before. See how it goes. You don't need to let them dry out too much, just dry to the touch will do it, that applies to skins and cut edges. The big advantage to plastic wrap is space saving if one has a lot of dahlias, let alone the success rate.
Hope that helps.

    Bookmark     November 25, 2005 at 2:48PM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

To re-emphasize: the tubers MUST have an eye

    Bookmark     November 25, 2005 at 9:54PM
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Kevin FloodlightHere's mine in bloom. Image link:
Posted by duane456 November 20, 2005
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

me too. That's where I got mine. LOL

    Bookmark     November 22, 2005 at 10:00PM
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roseofsharon_on(z6 ON Can)

I was too abusive and all my Home Depot tubers died. I will have to be more conscientious next year or order it from Arts.

Sharon

    Bookmark     November 23, 2005 at 11:10PM
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jamlover(z4 Iowa)

Think about washng them off and letting them dry. Then check out wrapping in saran wrap. I bet they will dry out if left in the bucket.

    Bookmark     November 19, 2005 at 11:34AM
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bigcityal(z5WI)

I'll agree with Jam, dahlia tubers are tough as long as they didn't freeze. I have bought some nasty looking tubers in dried out bags on sale and they have lived.

    Bookmark     November 19, 2005 at 2:44PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Well, I'm so glad you didn't give up and that you posted! Look what you got out of the deal: a beautiful flower and buds! The thing with the 5 o'clock tuber is it isn't connected to the eye on the stalk. I think I can see the eye even from the photo.

The eyes/future dahlia growth will feed off the stored energy in the tuber attached to it until roots develop to feed the plant further. If they're not attached to the tuber as a whole unit, I don't know what to tell you to expect except the eyeless tuber will do nothing, and the eyed stumpy piece from the stem might follow suit. Sometimes, I've had whole plants go on to grow from a little remaining stump of a rotten/rotting tuber. These amazing plants... it seems they know few limits sometimes.

In the interest of experimentation, try to save the part of the stalk where that eye is at 5:00 and see what happens. You won't need much of the stalk at all, just part of the harder brown part where tuber meets stalk. The worst that can happen is you'll have a bit more fodder for your compost pile. More importantly, I would still carefully cut out a bit of the stalk/collar with that smaller "12:00" tuber still attached. See if you can save it, or if it develops an eye by Spring. If all else fails, I think I've got one Otto's Thrill I can send you just to celebrate your success in the face of catastrophe.
Well done, Alyrics! You should change your name to "Lucky"

    Bookmark     November 19, 2005 at 1:03AM
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covella

Poochella you are so nice, thank you for inspiring me! Its a lot different doing it vs reading about it - ha!

I just wanted to ask - would it be better to cut away the stem with the tiny tuber attached or leave the stalk as is - cutting off the top excess? The roots were all at the base of the stem where its knobby looking and I wondered if there might be eyes or maybe future tubers there? I have no idea what I'm talking about do I?

Oh- that other white flower is my favorite tender bulb - Acidanthera - they are from S. Africa and wonderfully fragrant and bloom in August and Sept - altho this year they were still blooming when I took them out Nov 13th. They have a little 1 inch white bulb that you take up and store for the winter and can replant in the spring - more or less like a glad I suppose. I've never even used any bulb dust on them, I just put the bulbs in a paper bag and store for the winter - the major problem being dessication if stored too warm. - See how barbaric I've been up till now? They are also quite cheap so if all fails just replace them - I paid $8.89 for 100 at Costco in the spring. Many other bulb sellers have them also. They perfume the whole area - I can walk on my deck when the evening air is still and you can smell them when you open the door.

    Bookmark     November 19, 2005 at 10:06AM
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irish_rose_grower(z7 LI NY)

Those pictures are so beautiful. I love the bluesette. I'm new to dahlias, but I have that one waiting to plant come spring.

Maureen

    Bookmark     November 18, 2005 at 10:03PM
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covella

Irish Rose - If you haven't bought Bluesette already stay in touch with me and lets see if they survive the winter - I should have more tubers than I know what to do with.

    Bookmark     November 18, 2005 at 10:21PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Why Jroot, I already HAVE biceps that are amazing. They're called 'turning the compost pile regularly' and 'cleaning the barn with one short pitch fork.' I can't wait to let them wither a bit over winter- they are tired!

A bouncer? I'm way too nice. If someone was out of hand I'd politely say "Be nice!" Of course, I could take that ten foot lead pipe to work to look more authoritative....

I have seen photos of the dahlia imperialis' incredible growth. I've often marveled at the unbelievable growth of your average 4 ft dahlia, but this thing is a monster with a monster growth rate. With any luck I will have something to post next year.

    Bookmark     November 18, 2005 at 1:01AM
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calla_lady(Z8b N. Calif)

Jroot, my Dahlia freezes down to the ground every winter so it has brand new growth every spring. The stalk on my plant is maybe 1 1/2" wide.

I was in a courtyard garden in Sonoma yesterday and spotted a the biggest Dahlia imperialis I have ever see. Their was multiple woody stalks on this one which were about 4" wide. It was at least 10' - 11' tall, maybe taller. Sonoma does not get the regular hard frost that we do here, so it looks like this one does not get knocked back by the frost. It appears though that it was planted in a spot that has a constant flow of foot traffic right next to it and judging by all of the hacked off old stalks pointing towards the sidewalk, it probably has had tendency to lean over the sidewalk. My guess is that it does not get a chance to bloom. Unfortunately I did not have my camera with me, but I need to go out there again next week so I am going to make a point of trying to visit this garden again and get some pics. If I am successful I will post those.

    Bookmark     November 18, 2005 at 1:49PM
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