3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Poochella-Fast Indeed!!

Excellent advice from all of you.!!! Bravo Bravo

    Bookmark     October 16, 2005 at 8:39PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Willow, I hope you're going somewhere warm and dry for a change of pace. Have a good trip.

Granny, speed is my middle name! (Like a slug slithering along the forest floor here...) We must have been typing simultaneously.

PDX Jules, great observation on the water absorption. I did that digging test one year and was appalled at how little depth a couple gallons of water penetrated around a dahlia. I think I used peat moss back then. Now I avoid it unless digging a brand new bed, and will even use it sparingly there. I like compost as the very best thing for loosening soil and allowing quick absorption of water, mulching etc. I can't, for the life of me figure why Swan Island says "use no compost whatsoever" in their literature. It is my garden savior out here in the rockpile we inhabit. Maybe they have really rich soil in Oregon?

    Bookmark     October 16, 2005 at 11:30PM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Hello nanahanna:

Your pots are too small, and although I cannot tell for certain, it is probable that the spindly growth is a result of too little light.

Marsha

    Bookmark     October 16, 2005 at 8:25PM
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nanahanna(a8 AR)

Thanks Marsha! We didn't have any sunny beds ready for them so we put them in the pots just to see how they did. Next year they will be in a sunny bed. Can't wait to see how they do then. Thanks again!

Nana

    Bookmark     October 16, 2005 at 10:03PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Jroot did/do you teach math, perchance?

I agree, dig every year, or two at the most, and save yourself a lot of grief with gnarly tuber masses. You will have healthier plants (if they were healthy to begin with) and extra tubers to try out on the new dahlia exchange forthcoming.

I wish I would have taken a photo of a clump I'd left in a protected spot under eaves and next to the garage for 5 years. The mother tuber was a foot long and about 3 inches wide with a solid mass of mess surrounding her. If memory serves, I was able to get access to only 5-6 tubers out of 20 or so present. They just get too intermingled to easily harvest.

    Bookmark     October 14, 2005 at 10:21PM
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tamarava(z7bVa)

Thank you for you responses.It is extremely hard to find this kind of information about Dahlias. Is late spring a good time to divide? My one tuber of Classic Swan Lake has produced a wonderful 3 ft spread of foliage plus flowers.Tamara

    Bookmark     October 16, 2005 at 7:30AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Very pretty one and all. That Deep Maroon laciniated one looks like Caproz Razbr'y Twinkle- great color. You have a lovely show indeed.

    Bookmark     October 15, 2005 at 9:50AM
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anna_lisa(Quebec)

Hi the program i use to do this with is corel draw just import and place the name under them very easy if you need it to be done on any your pictures just ask Ill help anna lisa

    Bookmark     October 15, 2005 at 10:01AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

My wife would love that. She is always picking my dahlias and leaving bald spots in the garden. Ah well, ....if it keeps her happy.....

    Bookmark     October 10, 2005 at 10:04AM
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anna_lisa(Quebec)

Hi I also just love to see my dahlia on the kitchen table. I also join the society and went to the show I have got a list of dahlia to buy for next year. I allready have 40 and on my list i have another 20. I think i have a little problem where will i plant them. Too bad there is no field near by. next year problem. Anna

    Bookmark     October 14, 2005 at 8:20PM
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pdxjules(8, Portland, OR)

Thanx everybody - I'm paying attention and learning - as I know lots of others will do all winter. Method and classification clarification is truly appreciated, are names and your photos. I will definitely disbud and cut earlier. Keep that bountiful-boofy-bloom info coming!

    Bookmark     October 14, 2005 at 9:14AM
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bernie__pa(z6 Pa.)

These are some dahlias that should meet your requirements. I would highly recommend any and all of them.

This is my favorite of all dahlias that I grow and dates back to 1940.
Kidd's Climax

This is a big, beautiful Orange.
Clyde's Choice

The next two are pinks or lavenders. Both are very showy.
Elma Elizabeth

This is a sport of Kidd's Climax introduced by a hybridizer named Almand.
Almand Joy

The following dahlias are two of the most outstanding Reds.
Kenora Wildfire

Zorro

Of course there are many, many other large dahlias that meet your needs but this can give you some idea of what you can expect.

    Bookmark     October 14, 2005 at 5:28PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

If you don't need to worry about freezing, then you can dig up, separate, and replant. Up in the northern area, we have to dig up and keep up until spring, hence the wintering process inside.....a lot more work than you have to do.

Avoiding vandalism is another question entirely, and not one that I have to worry about here. I would be tempted to build a little artistic fence around it, which would serve two purposes, 1) anti theft deterent 2) something for the dahlia to lean against, and it might actually look rather classy, depending on the fence you choose.

    Bookmark     October 10, 2005 at 9:14PM
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kayan(10 San Francisco, CA)

Thanks, Jroot! Glad I don't have to worry about being weird and just moving them. :)

I've been wondering if it's legal to place wires with a mild electrical surge running through it. Probably not, even with a sign that says, "Warning, do not touch, high wattage!" I'll look into that fence.

    Bookmark     October 14, 2005 at 3:18PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

Bonus! You certainly can pinch the sprouts off. The bonus is that you can see readily where the eye is, and can do your separating now. Sometimes, it is next to impossible to see where the eye is, and one has to wait until spring when one starts them up.

Not all tubers have eyes, and so you can readily see which are the best ones to keep.

Here is a link that might be useful: tubers with an eye

    Bookmark     October 10, 2005 at 9:49AM
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SeaOtterCove(2b BC)

Thanks for the information. I ended up leaving the eyes on them and storing them that way. I'm sure they'll be raring to go come spring.:)

    Bookmark     October 14, 2005 at 11:13AM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Dahlia tubers are planted in the Spring. In central and northern parts of the country, we are preparing to dig them up and store them inside for the Winter.

    Bookmark     October 6, 2005 at 11:45PM
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flowergirl70ks

I live in Ks and love to grow dahlias. I usually plant in late April or early May, depending on the weather. I dig after the first frost, which will be soon. If I have time after they're dug,I get the soil ready for next year. Did in plenty of compost and a good sized handful of bone meal. I use large tomato cages to hold them up in our Ks wind, and sometimes have to put in an extra stake at that.

    Bookmark     October 14, 2005 at 10:32AM
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reddscarlette(3a BC Can)

Would using the 1 gal. jug work as well? (with the tops cut off?) I was also thinking of using the large coffee tins? Would they work or would the metal do something to the plants?

    Bookmark     October 13, 2005 at 2:29PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

We use the cardboard cartons because they are shallow & when you are starting the tubers you just lay them on their side on the soil then barely cover all but the eye end with soil. The eye end gets left out of the soil- so they're lying there with their heads out & their bottoms under about 1/4- 1/2" of soil. I think the plastic & the coffee cans would be too tall- you could cut the plastic ones down to about 4" though.

    Bookmark     October 13, 2005 at 11:10PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

I find that tubers are more variety-based on how they will behave than soil-based. Some are just small globules gnarled together, some are long, lean perfectly behaved tubers with separate necks; some are monster tubers big enough to serve a family of four.

I never fear that I will add too much compost or organic material to my garden, however. It helps in so many ways. And it smells good! Makes the soil easier to work, easier to dig, and I think easier to water.

    Bookmark     October 13, 2005 at 9:08PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

Are those "little white warts" the eyes of the tuber? Are they near the stem? If so, they very well may be the eyes of the tuber which are next year's growth spots.

That being said, the tubers from last year will be old and withered, and beside that old tuber ( if it still exists at all) will be the young tubers which will give next year's plants.

Do your research before you pull off more "little white warts".

If you decide that they are diseased, do not store them with your healthy tubers, but discard them. Don't even compost them if your composter does not get hot.

    Bookmark     October 10, 2005 at 10:02AM
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reddscarlette(3a BC Can)

Well, they're not eyes (that's for sure) The eyes I notice are more up at the top of the tuber. These little things are all over the body of the tuber. They're kind of fleshy feeling.

I wrapped these ones up separately just in case they are infected with something. Never know what I'm going to find in the spring. :)

    Bookmark     October 13, 2005 at 2:19PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

You want to cut them up into single tubers with an eye on each. Then pick the one or two with the best eyes for yourself to plant -then sell or trade the others for more varieties- & an addiction is born!

    Bookmark     October 11, 2005 at 10:45PM
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wblevin(6)

lol Plantlady "& an addiction is born!" - HOW TRUE!

    Bookmark     October 13, 2005 at 1:03PM
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Sunshine on a Rainy Day!
Posted by LadySpecs(z5 MA) October 11, 2005
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Names, we need names...pleeeese, whine, whine. I want them all. I love the far left one in the top photo, no- the 2nd from the right, no- the big bright ones in the bottom photo, no-wait....
Lovely photos, thanks for sharing with us.

    Bookmark     October 11, 2005 at 7:23PM
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LadySpecs(z5 MA)

I'm sorry I didn't include the names. I'm still new at this.
Top photo: left-right Mrs. Eileen, Fleurel, Lavender Perfection, Kelvin Floodlight. Second photo: Emporer. Bottom photo: Procyon.

    Bookmark     October 12, 2005 at 4:24PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

We don't have his catalogs but we correspond with him & can ask if he has any he would like to sell or share.

    Bookmark     October 11, 2005 at 10:34PM
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