3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

Hi Sheryl, I have a way to store cannas that has been fabulous. when I dig them up I leave the dirt around them put them in a plastic bag slightly moist and put them in the basement. they are ready to go in the spring with large eyes and take off like crazy. I treat them like the dahlias ,I let them get frosted then leave them in the ground for a week. My basement is around 65. they are different from the dahlia tubers because they need to be a little moist. You might try doing this with one to see if it works for you:)
For your small tubers try separating them, wash them ,soak them in a one part bleach and water for a few minutes, then dry really good then wrap them in saran wrap. I only lose about 5% of my tubers this way and I store a 1000. Like with the cannas ,maybe try a couple to see if it helps. Cindy

Thanks for the tip about the Canna! Mine were getting too dry with the dahlias, I guess, because they had a pretty slow start, too. I'll try what you suggested this year.
It's good to hear another grower storing in the 60-65 degree range, as that is what I have to contend with, as well. The long-time growers often say no more then 55, but obviously that's just not feasible for many of us.
With the Saran Wrap method, if there is temp fluxuation, I would not use it. I played with a portion of my tubers last season on the cold porch, and condensation got trapped next to the tubers causing some to rot and some to sprout. The growers I know that wrap with great success all have cold cellars that are a constant temp.
Here is a link that might be useful: Saran Wrap method

Welcome, Fresaq!
It sounds like either having higher humidity or protecting the seedlings from damp off might help you.
Perhaps Ted can give you further advice or links, as he has much more dahlia seed growing experience then I. I'm sure others on this site will chime in with their experience, given time. This forum is slow, but steady.
Cheers!
CC

No rhyme nor reason to what dahlias sometimes do. I've dug up dahlias in winter only to find a shoot growing when it shouldn't be budding for another 6 months. I had a tuber laying on the ground since February without being planted near my chair and in Sept it started sending up a shoot. It is now about 12-16 inches high but WAAY past the time it would be able to bloom so eventually I'll have to cut off the shoot and replant it next year.
Can't explain why you got MANY shoots except you may be correct that the weather is so nice, it is sending up multiple shoots this late. There is no harm in simply cutting off the shoots and letting it winter as normal. If you let the shoots grow, they will simply grow until they run out of steam and will then simply fall over. And hopefully send up the same number of shoots as now, only next May or June when it is supposed to.

Hurray for the resurrection of shriveled dahlias! They are often tough little buggers. "Pooh" will be back in my garden this year too- so bright and cute.
Jerry D, my thought regarding your question is if you're going to dig a dahlia up, why not just store it in a bag or pot of vermiculite or wood shavings vs soil? Same amount of work, or less, and you'd be using a proven storage media. You can still check moisture levels through the dormant season. Perhaps an experiment of storing some in soil, some in shavings/vermiculite would be interesting to try.

Do moose munch on dahlias? I couldn't imagine an effective deterrent for them, as I understand they habitually like to squash dogs that bark at them.
It makes sense you not wanting to meet a massive wall of muscle and antler in the dark, or a grizzly for that matter, though I would have been tempted, with dahlia craze still blazing...

The moose don't eat the dahlias, but they tromp all over them (and the iris and lilies) on the way to the delicacies they love...almost everything else in the garden.
All my tubers are now dug and stored, so I can move on to cleaning up the yard/garden for winter.

I have been very happy with the sulfur/saran wrap method for the past few years. After dividing, the tubers are tossed in a baggie with garden sulfur and then wrapped individually in saran wrap. Stored in a cool dark place. Last year with over 200 tubers, I lost 3-4 to rot, and none dried up.
It takes a little time, but it works.

I have heard of some tubers surviving the winter in that zone when planted right next to the house with a southern exposure and a mild winter, but that is a rare exception.
Most of us in the colder climates dig our tubers after first frost, and store inside until spring. Others just treat them as annuals, and buy new ones at local club auctions every spring.
There are 'hardy gladiolus,' which never seem to grow for me in zone 5... Perhaps that is what you saw in a catalog and confused for dahlias.
Here is a link that might be useful: Fundamentals of Growing Dahlias, ADS

Hi Liza
How do all of your 'offspring' have eyes?
When I dig up tubers and find clumps of anywhere from 6-14 tubers, many are just 'suckers' that hang off the main tuber and have no 'heads or eyes'.
Am I throwing out good tubers? I have sometimes laid them aside or partially planted them in soil to see if an eye develops and they never do. I always thought they were just 'hangers-on'.
David

I'm in the exact same boat, Jacque! Very frustrated that all of the numerous home remedies failed, and really didn't want to resort to commercial sprays.
Next year, I will start spraying fungicides nice and early before the dratted powdery mildew takes over. The spores are probably all over the soil surfaces from this season, and after digging will be all through it. I doubt treating the tubers will do anything to slow the PM.
Dr. Hammett, an experienced grower from New Zealand, recently wrote this...
"By the time you "see"powdery mildew on the upper surface of leaves you already have a massive infection that is difficult to control. Infection starts on the underside of leaves and goes unnoticed. MBC is the best replacement for Benlate. It is sold in New Zealand as Carbendazim. It is systemic. Spray long before you expect to see infection, so that the pathogen does not get a toe hold."

If they did not grow at all, they are dead. If there is any green growth at all, they can be dug and stored whole in a plastic bag or preferably a gallon sized pot with some soil. Do not attempt to divide them. You would probably be better advised to just buy new tubers next year.


Thanks both for the follow up!
The tubers were all purchased from Dan's Dahlias. I've never had an issue with growing from there before. The only difference this year is that I made a box to place in my yard- it gave them a couple add'l hours of sun each day. I had no slug troubles, and being in the city I don't have to deal with deer.
As for the repeat blooms, not one single plant had add'l blooms after the first 1-3 flowers died off. BUT, new buds formed and eventually blackened- just the buds, no surrounding leaves on the plant.
I'll see if I can get a decent pic, but my plants took heavy damage recently from the outrageous rains we received recently

Look something like this?
I've noticed a dozen or so blackened buds in the last week. Not sure why, but it is not a problem at all for me, as there are many MANY more buds that are just fine.
So sorry that is happening to you! Perhaps extreme weather shift? I have no words of wisdom for a solution to this problem.


Here's a really gorgeous large dahlia (Formby Kaitlyn) that opened up a few days ago. The picture doesn't fully do it justice. It has that iridescent purple sheen that is nearly impossible to capture in photos. (I'm holding it in my hand for scale.)


Nice seeing your formby Kaitlyn, Steve. That's one that I was hoping to see in my garden, but only obtained eighteen inches before disappearing under other more vigourous varieties. With luck, I'll have a couple tubers for next year's attempt.
Caribbean Fantasy seems a contradiction into itself, with the white, yellow and pink folding back into itself. Glad it did well for you, Mytime.
Here's one that recently opened for me, that I've been hearing about from dahlia friends for the last two years... Show & Tell. Well worth the wait, it is absolutely magnificent! Oh, and so is the Praying Mantis.



Thanks Lin, I was told that they don't bloom here until the end of Oct. Our first frost is almost always after Thanksgiving.
Then there is a good chance!
In my zone it is hopeless without startig it in a greenhoese or something.
But it was still very impressive (4 years ago, I meant).
Welll then, good waiting,
Bye lin