3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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Poochella(7 WA)

What kind of dahlias are they? If they're large plants intending on going on to be 3-5' tall then you'd be better off putting them in a large multigallon pot or in the garden with some support.

If they are short bedding dahlias, a slightly larger pot or container with other plants should work.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2005 at 10:44AM
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susan6(z6a)

Thanks, Flowerfarmer. I know they'e not the dwarf varieties and if you save any tubers they revert to their normal height. Sure wish I could get my hands on some of the product, but will just have to get along without it.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2005 at 10:10AM
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ornata(London UK (8/9?))

It seems you might have to live with the 6-footers. Are you staking your plants? If you put in a network of twiggy sticks or garden prunings when the dahlias are still small, they'll grow up and obscure the support.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2005 at 5:09AM
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flowerfarmer

The tagalong side buds in a bouquet help sell the flowers at market. Customers love that. Is that what you were asking Pooch? We don't necessarily want huge blossoms that may be desirable in your garden. And, we get more blossoms per plant. One that comes to mind that we do pinch is Almand Joy. Otherwise, it will get a short but huge blossom right there down in the middle of the plant. Drives me crazy.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2005 at 9:58PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Yes, that is what I was asking. I find the tagalongs get in my way and invariably break- at least on the varieties I have allowed to proceed to that point. But if it works for you and your customers, great.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2005 at 11:39PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

That's hard to say Sassyo. Did they get really dried out during the heat? Are you overwatering? Have you given them any fertilizer? The 50's at night won't hurt them.

I've never grown from seed so I can't really tell you anything. Sorry.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2005 at 7:33PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Gosh something is curling up my wild ginger leaves, tight as a cigar. I unfurled one victim and sure enough there was a gross little whitish caterpillar inside. Ick.

Dahlias got a huge welcome dose of 80 degrees and pure sun, more in store for tomorrow. Believe me after 50-60 (barely) degrees and tons of rain, this is a most welcome change.
Laura are you going to be influenced by the Nor'easter I've heard predicted for the NE? Stay afloat and protect your dahlias.
Pooch

    Bookmark     May 25, 2005 at 10:43PM
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GreatbluebabyCT(z6CT)

Hi Poochella,
By the time I read this the Nor easter was gone, but thanks! My Dahlias did just fine through it since they were in their pots on the front porch. I just planted them outside yesterday. Everyone wish me good luck since things are getting eaten in my other garden!
I borrowed a book from my library called, Bugs, Slugs and other Thugs and I think it might be cutworms damaging my other plants. I hope they don't find my Dahlias! I might make some collars to fit around them later today.
Happy Gardening,
Laura

    Bookmark     June 1, 2005 at 11:31AM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

You can grow them in a pot or you can usually find them at garden centers already in bloom now in pots. If you plant tubers now you will get blooms in Aug.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2005 at 12:49AM
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flowerfarmer

Blooms in August isn't a bad thing. That's why some call it a fall show!!..........

    Bookmark     June 1, 2005 at 8:51AM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

Walmart, Home Depot, Lowe's-- any hardware or plant dept. should have them.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2005 at 12:31AM
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flowerfarmer

How about the local hardware store?

    Bookmark     June 1, 2005 at 6:18AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

Your pot is possibly too small. I had one dahlia that produced several tubers that were each 10 inches long. The leaves are the power house for the plant. I wouldn't be taking them off unless they had died back.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2005 at 10:18PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

You can pinch off the bottom leaves without a problem. We usually end up taking off at least 2 or 3 rows of bottom leaves in the gardens to aid circulation & keep the mildew at bay.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2005 at 12:43AM
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DapperDahlia(z6 Pa)

How many weeks does it usually take for a dahlia to bloom?

    Bookmark     May 31, 2005 at 8:07PM
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flowerfarmer

Dapper, We plant dahlia tubers on or around May 1. They begin blooming around the end of July.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2005 at 9:40PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

KLK If they are two inches Below the mulch and you have at least a couple inches of mulch you should be just fine: i.e. tuber is 4 inches below somekind of garden soil/mulch.
That describes many of mine and they are coming up just fine and have fared well in the past planted this way.

I usually end up top dressing each plant with more compost material as the season wears on anyway, so that gives more protection and moisture retention.

Full sun is perfect. 90 days to bloom time, but often earlier by 10-20 days- depends on variety, weather etc.

Fertilizer is your choice. I have used Osmocote flower and veggie extended release for years, but this year I'm going with 10-10-10 to see if I get more blooms. It lasts for 60 days. I am too busy to use a fertilizer more often.

Sounds like you're off to a good start this year.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2005 at 7:44PM
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cnid(z5b Ont Canada)

Well although it's not consistently warm or sunny yet, it has warmed up and my dahlias are coming along in their pots. The one I was worried about has recovered nicely. I can't wait to see what happens when we get some proper heat (whoosh! growth!), and to see them bloom! Thanks for the reassurance earlier.

cnid

    Bookmark     May 30, 2005 at 10:17PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Glad it pulled through for you Cnid.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2005 at 1:41AM
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Nancy zone 6(6b)

That long! Thanks, I'll try to be patient & not compost them. Three out of 5 sounds like I have a decent chance at any rate.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2005 at 7:42AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

In my experience some are very slow to show eyes, some will sprout roots but never develop an eye (blind tuber,) and 3 out of 4 of Ron's that didn't have eyes, really DID have eyes that went on to grow.

Some are really hard to tell, you mark a spot that you think is an eye and nothing happens there, but one emerges in a place you wouldn't have suspected.

I still have a bunch in shallow potting soil waiting to show me an eye. Some are growing roots but I'm about ready to proclaim them compost.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2005 at 9:40AM
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kdjoergensen

I would recommend Swan Island.

    Bookmark     May 27, 2005 at 11:36PM
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Sheiliah(z9FL)

I ordered from Corralitos Gardens earlier this spring. The plants are beautiful and are beginning to show buds.

It's my first time with Dahlias as well. I envy you your space..you can just get "one of everything". I agonized for a week over my choices as I was limited by space to only 6 plants.

Good Luck

    Bookmark     May 28, 2005 at 12:20PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

No- cuttings are taken in late winter or early spring from either tubers or pot tubers that have been started early. See the Colorado Dahlia site for info on cuttings.

    Bookmark     May 27, 2005 at 2:26PM
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Nancy zone 6(6b)

If the plant is young I don't see why you can't just leave it as is, although the brown stems might not be attractive in the spring. Of course as fast as dahlias multiply you might want to divid after 1st year. Leaving stms on might be good though to know where it is so you wouldn't dig there. I have read somewhere in our zones where we have to dig each year that you cut back the foliage but don't leave it in the ground too long because water can seep thru the stems & rot the tuber. That would make it seem better to leave stems on.

    Bookmark     May 27, 2005 at 2:53PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

I hope you are going to slash the one labelled TOAST, not the unlabelled one pointing nearly straight out at the viewer.
Hope it grows for you, and please keep us posted!

    Bookmark     May 27, 2005 at 1:15PM
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dazed77(6)

Sorry about that..I read my post again. I meant to say that I was going to slash off the part labelled 'toast' (which I did) and not the unlabelled brown blob which is still intact. I will be putting it into a pot in the evening.. Will keep you all posted.

    Bookmark     May 27, 2005 at 1:37PM
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