3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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chris_ont(5a Ont)

Wow, perfect!
Thanks to both of you

C.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2005 at 11:58PM
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Noni Morrison

I don't understand where they get that Crazy Love is a short border dahlia? It took mine a few years to get going but last year I had a massive plant that was taller then 6" and completely submerged my big Othello rose bush. That thing must have been atleat 6' each way before the lower branches lay down and spread! I could pick a whole bucket of just "Crazy Love flowers every second day off it!.

IT really is a beautiful flower!

And the edging is more purple then pink, but very delicate. A great cutting flower!

    Bookmark     May 9, 2005 at 2:16PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

Zone 4, and your last frost date is Monday ? ? ?

Interesting, I am zone 5, and our last frost date, as printed in yesterday's paper is May 30th.

I would be getting them uncovered in the warm days, but still be prepared for a frost when you can cover them with an old sheet or such.

There are theories about the development of tubers if they are planted deep. I would think that if the lower leaves were removed, and that is all that is done, then there would be no significant difference. However, if there was some hilling of soil, or the plants were planted deep enough to cover the defoliaged leaf node, then there may be more tubers formed. That is just a thought though with no scientific proof to back it up.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2005 at 2:16AM
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jamlover(z4 Iowa)

OK, It's actually about a week away, but am afraid if I don't get the started dahlias in their assigned beds the beds will be lost to my 150 annuals I have to set. Figure to put them down 4 to 6 inches and fill in the hole around the shoot as growth continues.

Set my "new green stakes" in the beds. That should discourage annual setting!!!! Do you think 40 Blue Butterfly delphiniums (the little short edging delphiniums I started myself--about 12 inches tall) around the edge of the bed would have room?

Or would 4 or 5 magic fountain white delhpinium with a dark bee be good down the center of each bed instead of the center row of dahlias? I'm setting the dahlias 2 foot apart in all directions, and if I eliminate the center row to delphinium_____ suggestions welcome. Or would alyssum hanging down over the edges of the raised beds be better???

    Bookmark     May 9, 2005 at 9:41AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

We are getting similar weather now as well, but if one looks at the long range, I still see a lot of dips in the evening temperature. This Thursday, we go down to just above freezing, but the next day will be in the 80's. Strange weather extremes!

    Bookmark     May 9, 2005 at 2:18AM
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GreatbluebabyCT(z6CT)

HI,
I wouldn't chance it I'm zone 6 and it has been pretty cold here I'm not planning on planting any Dahlia out until June.
I left a Dahlia seedling out on my front porch (enclosed by glass windows) the other night it was around 40 degrees and the seedling turned to mush.
Today I read in a gardening magazine not to plant dahlias until the soil temp is a steady 65 degrees.
You could start them in pots inside the house to get a head start. I have some tubers in 10 inch hanging baskets from last years flowers they are doing great soooo tall!
Just be sure to remove the hanging device if you use them.
Good Luck!
Laura

    Bookmark     May 8, 2005 at 8:57PM
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lindaskyview

I bought seven dahliettas last summer. I put six of them in a half-size whiskey barrel planter with good-draining soil (lots of perlite), located where they get full sun most of the day. They were given a good sprinkle of time-release fertilizer over the soil surface to feed them for several months. One went into a garden with marigolds.

With deadheading, they did very well right up until cold weather. I dug up a couple to try and overwinter, but they shriveled up (should have wrapped the tubers in saran/cling wrap.) Much to my surprise, though, four out of the five left in the planter have come up and are putting out leaves like crazy in the past couple of weeks. (I'm in Zone 6, but the weather has been more like a z 7 or 8.) The one I left in the garden has come up too, tho' it's obvious slugs or some other critter has been snacking on the leaves, under the pine straw mulch.

I'll fertilize them again and hope that they flower this year, too. They really don't get too large, so if you're only planting one, a 6" or 8" pot should be roomy enough.

The only thing I didn't care for about dahliettas was that the flower stems were quite short, so that the flowers were often hidden among the foliage. Too bad, 'cause they were very pretty.

LindaSkyview

    Bookmark     May 5, 2005 at 12:39PM
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GreatbluebabyCT(z6CT)

Thanks,
I have a 8 inch pot I'll try it in that. I tried some from seed with no luck. I'll try the paper towel method in a week or so I'd like to get a few started from seed. I couldn't belive how many flowers the one I purchaced had on it. It's beautiful.
Thanks again,
Laura

    Bookmark     May 8, 2005 at 8:50PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

It sure sounds like your stored dahlias have come out of the closet in good shape and the ones with green sprouts are ready to go in the ground as soon the threat of frost goes away.

There is nothing crazy about it. This is how you overwinter dahlias, and you could likely divide them to get more plants. That's when the crazy part comes in.

For the ones without sprouts showing, look for small obvious swellings in possibly dark pink, purple, or even green colors on the stem end of the tuber, right near last year's stem. Those are the eyes and will go on to produce plants.

The ones without visible eyes are worth saving for now. Expose them to some bright light, be careful they don't dry out, mist them with a spritz of water every few days if they do. Give them time to "eye up" and prove that they have life left in them. Some varieties are VERY slow to show eyes. Pathetically slow, really. Hideously slow.

If they are mushy, rotten, moldy or dried up like mummies toss them.

Good luck with your plants.

Here is a link that might be useful: dividing tubers-Colorado Dahlia Society

    Bookmark     May 7, 2005 at 1:15AM
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jdunham(Ohio)

Great...thanks for the info! I appreciate it!

Jodi

    Bookmark     May 8, 2005 at 4:08PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

here you go

Here is a link that might be useful: tree dahlia

    Bookmark     May 6, 2005 at 6:58PM
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DapperDahlia(z6 Pa)

A lot of people buy (or make) wooden steaks and hammer them into the ground when they plant thier tuber. (they put it in when they pant thier tuber because they dont want to put a steak through the tuber :o) ) You can get steaks like that at a hardware store. I think that even a plastic or metal treated pole or a tomatoe cage whatever you have will do the trick. :o)

    Bookmark     May 6, 2005 at 7:08AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Wooden stakes, pvc or rebar lengths are all easy to store in the off season. Tomato cages, fencing posts and strings or wires are other options.

Here is a link that might be useful: Supporting Dahlias

    Bookmark     May 6, 2005 at 10:04AM
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DapperDahlia(z6 Pa)

hehe there ya go! you have a dahlia! Mine are peeking through to and its really exciting

    Bookmark     May 6, 2005 at 7:03AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

I would be tempted to plant ONE per pot. They need room to root and form the tubers during the summer. One per pot will also be less stressful when they search for water and food.

    Bookmark     May 3, 2005 at 10:08PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

Bedding dahlias can be planted in mixed pots quite close together- I've put them in 10-12" pots with lots of other plants & they do very well so I would guess that you would be just fine putting 2 or 3 in a 10-12" pot. You don't have to pinch them back but be sure to dead-head all summer to keep them blooming. They will even grow some little tubers for you to dig up & store in the fall.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2005 at 9:01PM
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Billl(z7 nc)

I'm in Zone 7 and last year I experimented with some cheap dahlias to see what happens when I left them out over winter. I left 5 in native soil (clay ammended with compost) I left 5 in a raised bed - compost and bagged topsoil. I put 5 in a ziplock with some peat and put it in an attached garage.

Of the 5 in native soil, only one survived. The rest completely rotted away. In the raised bed, all 5 survived. In the ziplock, all 5 survived.

For people in different zones, we got a few days of snow this year but our ground never freezes. It was a fairly wet winter overall which probably didn't help the ones in the ground. In the future, I will be lifting all of them except those in raised beds. If I were farther north, I would lift them all.

    Bookmark     May 2, 2005 at 10:03AM
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Dalez(z5 Tijeras)

Thanks Bill, good infomation. I admire your scientific approach.

    Bookmark     May 3, 2005 at 12:40AM
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Mvespa(Z6 NJ)

Wow that is gorgeous!

    Bookmark     April 28, 2005 at 5:16PM
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Nancy zone 6(6b)

I like your disclaimer-not as long as all those on most legal docs I read :) Wouldn't that make a great dahlia!

    Bookmark     May 1, 2005 at 8:44AM
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neggz(z10 San Diego)

Hi Dapper Dahlia!
Thanks for the info...I'm sure I'll have tons more questions when my "Blue Bell" arrives.

I received email confirmation today that my Dahlia Blue Bell has been shipped. I should get it this weekend. I can't wait! My very first. Boy, I hope it grows.

Thanks again!

    Bookmark     April 29, 2005 at 4:51PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

Don't count on it being blue as there aren't any blue dahlias. No blue genes in dahlias-- hence-- no blue dahlias! Really ticks me of when companies advertise so-called blue dahlias, sell them to people who are then disappointed when the flowers aren't blue at all. A pox on them!!

    Bookmark     May 1, 2005 at 12:59AM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

It should re-grow if there is any stem left at all by the tuber- it's been "stopped" for you so that you don't have to do it yourself!

    Bookmark     April 29, 2005 at 2:47PM
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upwithdahlias(Colorado(Z4))

The Mid-Island Dahlia Society on Long Island has a well illustrated article on how to top and otherwise control dahlia growth at the link included below.

Here is a link that might be useful: Controlling Plant Growth

    Bookmark     April 25, 2005 at 9:47PM
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neggz(z10 San Diego)

What a great link for info, UpWithDahlias! Thanks!

Now, is that recommended only for dinner plate and other big dahlias, or all of them?

Also, can I use the same theory on my gardenia cuttings that are busy building away at strong roots?

Thanks!

    Bookmark     April 28, 2005 at 5:07PM
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