3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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Poochella(7 WA)

Penn's Gift is a monster, fuller than Emory Paul. Ivory Palaces is large and full. Kelvin Floodlight- a large dinnerplate. There are probably 10,000 others..

Follow the link to many gorgeous blooms from Wynne's Dahlias. They specialize in large dahlias with many original varieties. And oh so pretty I might add!

Here is a link that might be useful: Wynne's supersize dahlias

    Bookmark     March 26, 2005 at 4:00PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

The summer of 2003 we had a Wanda's Moonlight with a bloom that measured 17" across & 14" deep! It was the first bloom & down in the plant so I couldn't get a really good picture of it but there are pictures of later blooms on the same plant in our albums at the site given in the previous answer. Sir Alfred Ramsey is another biggie but very frequently will "beard" so is not as attractive as some. We won Best AA & Biggest in show in 3 shows in 2003 with Zorros that were huge. They have a wonderful form & don't sag on you! Love those AA's that are a bouquet in themselves!

    Bookmark     March 27, 2005 at 4:47PM
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DgreenR

thanks for the advice... I think I might start one or two very soon and then wait until my greenhouse is built to do the rest. One of the bulbs I got actually already has roots because it is in a bag of peat moss (I think that's what it is in, looks like soil kind of.) I'm hoping if I start them inside now I will get blooms before late july/august. Last year I only started one dahlia from a bulb and I did it really late so I didnt have flowers till autum. This year I want to get to an early start. I might also try starting some regular green elephant ear bulbs in pots as well.

Good luck with your dahlias!

-DR

    Bookmark     March 24, 2005 at 10:57PM
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kneecop(7 Long Island)

Last year I started mine in pots inside - now I live in Atlanta so it might be a bit sunnier, but the pots were in direct southern exposure sunlight. They started shooting up in about a week or two and I put them outside even before the danger of frost was done. But because they were in pots I could bring them in. Now if I was to plant them in the ground, it's pretty easy to transplant them before they get to big, but I'd worry about the cold inyour area...

    Bookmark     March 26, 2005 at 9:33AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Hi Patty,
Big clumps are hard to handle and will produce fewer blooms of lesser quality than one or two healthy tubers. (Says she who left 6 clumps in the ground last winter.)They keep reproducing tubers each year, and get more difficult to handle.

Dividing is a great way to get more tubers for planting or sharing. You should be able to see which ones on the clump are developing eyes or growth buds and make your cuts accordingly. I think people advise if in doubt about dividing individual tubers,just cut the clump into halves or quarters and hopefully you'll have something that grows out of each bunch.
I would let the fresh cuts dry over and even dust the cut area with sulphur before they go into the ground though.

Good Luck in your second year of dahlias.
Poochella

Here is a link that might be useful: Dividing Tubers

    Bookmark     March 14, 2005 at 1:31PM
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kneecop(7 Long Island)

This is my 4th year growing them, in the ground and in pots. I did not divide 3 clumps that I put in the ground a few years ago and last year they were pretty lame indeed. The other ones that I divided did just as well as when I first bought them.
So in a nutshell, my completely un-scientific opinion is to divide em!

    Bookmark     March 26, 2005 at 9:23AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

Hi Murka, fellow zone 5 gardener from Ontario:

I would be tempted to put in no more than 5 dahlias in the 24 x 24 pot. They don't want to be too crowded, and you will need to pinch the lower area so that moisture does not become a problem, hence mold.

Actually, 3 large dahlias would be nice. I particularly like the cactus style, with about a 4-6 inch flower. If you pinch the lead steam, it will branch out for you, and you will have plenty of flowers. I had two dahlias in a slightly smaller plant last year, and they did very well, and looked spectacular.

Only plant a few inches, not too deep. If you plant outside around May 20, you may have to protect them from frost, but that is quite easy in a 24x24 planter. Put in a couple of stakes when you plant the tuber, so that you can tie them up later in the season, and you can also throw a sheet over top, in the event of frost. Where I live, near Guelph, we often get frost up to early June, so we have to be prepared.

I start my dahlias before most, and keep them under lights. However, if you have really good southern exposure windows, you should be able to give them a head start.

Good luck. Keep us informed as to how you are progressing.

    Bookmark     March 6, 2005 at 9:48AM
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kneecop(7 Long Island)

I second the 3 to a pot idea, especially if they are the bigger types. I'm still learning about what they like, but the ones I crowded too much didn't perform as well as the others. You will be very happy with em.

    Bookmark     March 26, 2005 at 9:19AM
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Noni Morrison

jamlover Jean, I leave mine in the ground. I lost only 1 out of 65 last year, (Kasasagi) and doubt if I will loose any this year. EVery so many years we will hve a winter where I might loose them but then I would get to start with all new ones! Worth the risk to me! Especialy when it is labeled an el Nino year that means we prbably won't have any deep freezing. I do put a straw mulch over mine if the weather is going down into the mid twenties. NEver got there this year.

    Bookmark     March 24, 2005 at 2:38PM
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alex_z7(7 AL)

LizaLily, I was looking at your member page and am encouraged to read that you too have both fibromyalgia and arthritis yet still have a business that requires so much physical effort. I too have both and have wondered what that prognosis means for the future.

    Bookmark     March 25, 2005 at 8:48PM
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butterflylion(7bGA)

Do the balls grow well in the South? I live in metro Atlanta. Thanks!

    Bookmark     March 24, 2005 at 10:01PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Butterfly, I bet you can grow any type of dahlia there.

Inquire at the link below. They will be able to answer more zone specific questions.

Here is a link that might be useful: Georgia Dahlia Society

    Bookmark     March 25, 2005 at 11:08AM
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jkom51(Z9 CA/Sunset 17)

It would definitely help to give them something to feed on. Mine are in compost and I feed them bulb meal and fish emulsion several times a year.

    Bookmark     March 24, 2005 at 6:54PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Most of mine are planted in acidic soil, so I don't know what others will say about the lime, I think they like a bit of acid in their soil. I dig to a depth of 12-14 inches, plant at a depth of 4-6 inches. This allows plenty of room for tubers to develop underground. I add compost every year and mulch with more to maintain moisture. sounds like your stunted veggie patch might benefit from some more nutrients.

Dahlia roots are fairly shallow, hence the advice not to do anything but superficial weeding. I don't know that I'd even make raised beds unless you like the look of them.
Good luck!
Poochella

    Bookmark     March 22, 2005 at 1:58PM
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scaly(6)

You really don't need a raised bed. I dig a hole in the ground about 12" deep and 12-20" dia. I sift the lousy soil from the hole through a 3/8" X 3/8" screen and into a wheel barrow. I take the rocks and put them somewhere else on the property. I mix compost, top soil, and some pete with the sifted lousy brown soil. I put a few inches in the bottom of the hole. Place the tuber. Stake. Fill the hole with remaining good dirt. Water and watch them grow like crazy. I use the same holes every year sometimes making new ones. This cuts down on the work from year to year.

    Bookmark     March 24, 2005 at 12:32PM
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Angielynn(z5 VT)

Thanks! I thought the miracle grow thing was a little wierd. Do you use fertilizer at all when growing in pots?

    Bookmark     March 22, 2005 at 4:31PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

KD, Our damp conditions might be the reason, but almost all the instructions from growers out here say DO NOT WATER til the plant is up, there is plenty of moisture to feed the rootlets without rotting the tuber. I try to wait til the plants are about 8 inches tall before watering, unless really warm and dry weather occurs. Our dry winter and Spring might call for "Plan B" though this year.
Poochella

    Bookmark     March 22, 2005 at 7:36PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

I behaved very badly as a Birthday Girl, Liza.
I came away with 18 new tubers, a free birthday tuber and a membership to the PSDA! Now I'll be really dilly-dallying in the dahlia patch. This is on top of what I have already ordered, and the ones I got at the NW Flower and Garden Show. I need a rototiller!

After swearing for years I would never branch into the red colors, I branched into the red colors with Prince Valiant, Rejman's Polish Kid and Helen's Alvin,Sr. Got a few new laciniates, some waterlilies, some others I killed last year planting too early that I really wanted: Just Peachy, Hissy Fitz, Brookside J Cooley, to name a few.

I will have fun planning where they will go. And
I will not plant too early
I will not plant too early
I will not plant too early.

    Bookmark     March 21, 2005 at 12:42PM
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Noni Morrison

Just Peachy is one of my absolute favorites! Love it with purples for an autumn arrangement. Beautiful with many peach and apricot shade roses too! IF I Could only take 6 tubers with me in an emergency, Just Peachy would be one!
Oh what a fun birthday it sounds like!

I usually get to do my birthday (Jan 27) at the Tacoma Garden and Home show where they have the BEST plants on sale! And then there are the bulb people.....But hey, we can pull the car right up to the back to load, and they have a Flower check stand so you don't have to carry things around all the time!

Besides, it is in a different month then the Northwest GArden show so charges don't go on the same month on the charge card, LOL.

    Bookmark     March 21, 2005 at 9:08PM
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grannymarsh(z4-5 U.P. MICH)

Try this address ot do a Google search for 'The Big List" Dahlias. There are several companies that sell "Lula Pattie" for example. And good luck with your search!!

www.dahlias.net/dbiglist.htm

    Bookmark     March 21, 2005 at 6:31PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Hi Loretta,
Follow the link to the big list of suppliers, many with online catalogs. Florida doesn't show any dahlia association sales coming up. The closest looks like it would be in Atlanta, but there are many people here who have ordered from various suppliers with complete satisfaction. No reason you can't do it too!
Good luck,
Poochella

Here is a link that might be useful: Dahlia Suppliers

    Bookmark     March 19, 2005 at 5:24PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

You can order from any of the suppliers- they will ship when it's time to plant in your area --or earlier if you want to start them indoors or do cuttings.

    Bookmark     March 20, 2005 at 2:46PM
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hklimsa(zone5)

why you want to dig them now??? did they survive the witer??? if did leave them alone. they should be o.k. what zone you are in ???? here zone 5 they will never survine in winter too cold , good luck

    Bookmark     March 18, 2005 at 9:26AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Ione, I bet if you dig them up carefully you will find shoots formed already. The winter, here at least, has been so mild. You can dig, decide if you want to divide to get more plants and replant. The worst you'll find are some rotted tubers which should be removed from the clump.

I have successfully left clumps in the ground without problems, but dig most of them annually.
Good luck,
poochella

    Bookmark     March 18, 2005 at 2:46PM
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plantlady2(NW Washington)

When I start the seedlings some of them are up in 2-3 of days. Some of them take a couple of weeks-- they're all planted at the same time from the same sized dahlias, too-- AA sized ones.

    Bookmark     March 9, 2005 at 9:29PM
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janevx(z4 MN)

I asked when to start Dahlia seeds indoors and someone replied that it is possible to WS them outside. Check out this thread
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/wtrsow/msg0217225414544.html?17

I'm going to try this. Good luck!

Best regards!
Jane

    Bookmark     March 18, 2005 at 8:46AM
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