3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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jujujojo_gw(6b 7a)

Thank you so much Lin and Ted.

    Bookmark     January 14, 2015 at 3:09PM
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jaym1818

those are pretty neat actually, makes me think of christmas

    Bookmark     February 11, 2015 at 5:07PM
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cicivacation(5/6)

It only takes one seed to grow a giant weed, but the next season is when you'll have to be vigilant with new seedlings.

Quick- get ready to plant TONS of dahlias so they will shade out the weed seedlings! Works for me!

    Bookmark     February 10, 2015 at 1:52PM
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chillout_cy

Good idea! The weather was better today so I threw it out. Tomorrow it's back to picking all the small ones out again and again and again.....

Thanks for all your comments everyone. Will try harder!

    Bookmark     February 11, 2015 at 7:23AM
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cicivacation(5/6)

Questions are fine. My ulterior motive is to get you hooked on dahlias for life, so it's all good.

No fridge, leave them room temp in the packaging they are in. The bag should have perforations to keep humidity from being trapped inside, and there should be peat moss or another packing medium inside to protect the roots. Leave them be until you're ready to pot them up.

Word of warning... Watch them for signs of fungus gnats, which I have seen settling into big box pot root dahlias too many times. They indicate that there is some rotting going on, and you'll want to play doctor if that happens. This early in the spring sale season, you shouldn't have that problem, though.

    Bookmark     February 10, 2015 at 7:14PM
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poppy_pa_6b

haha....well it wouldn't be difficult to get me hooked. I love flowers. I'm still working on roses as my biggest learning curve, so I don't want to take on too much and lose the fun of it all. I did order the café au lait last night, so I have 3 varieties. (Garden Wonder and Onesta are the other two). I wanted a pompom type dahlia, but that can wait another year. I love the symmetry of those.

The 2 I have are packaged in clear plastic with I think peat moss(brown saw dusty type stuff) and no perforations, no bugs, and dry. The packaging says they're a product of the Netherlands and they have a 1 yr guarantee. I think that's that pretty good considering where I purchased them from.

Thanks again for your advice!

    Bookmark     February 11, 2015 at 6:56AM
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teddahlia

If one uses peat moss to store tubers, you should not put them in cardboard boxes as the the boxes wick the moisture from the peat moss and then the tubers. Had you used peat moss in plastic bags and loosely tied the them shut, the moisture level would be the same as when you put them in the bag.
When you use vermiculite, normally you use no water as the vermiculite holds moisture(that is why they add it to soil mixes). The additional water is too wet for the dahlias. The most often used successful method to store dahlia tubers is vermiculite and plastic bags and no water. The next best may be wrapping dry tubers in plastic wrap and the next best is the peat moss, if you can keep the moisture levels correct. The same goes for wood shavings and again, one would not moisten the wood shavings, and you must use plastic bags. The plastic bags create a vapor barrier that keeps them from drying out if the humidity is low or rotting if the humidity is high. Remember that commercial growers store thousands of tubers every year. You should be able to store a few successfully.

    Bookmark     January 19, 2015 at 9:00PM
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kygirl1(6b)

PLASTIC WRAP SOUNDED CRAZY,BUT THIS YEAR I COULDNT LOSE! EVERYTHING ELSE FAILED IN YEARS PAST,AND I HAD THREE HUNDRED TUBERS SO HERES WHAT I DID
Gently lifted and imediantly hosed the tubers with a strong spray of water
HARVEST CAREFULLY BROKEN TUBERS GREET DISEASE!
SEPERATE LEAVING A PEICE OF STEM ( THATS WHERE THE EYES ARE AND NEXT YEARS PLANT COMES FROM.
DRY WELL THIS MAY TAKE A COUPLE DAYS THERE SHOULD BE NO SIGN OF MOISTURE!.
I USED A TOOTHBRUSH TO APPLY A POWDER FUNGICIDE SULFUR to the tubers coating lightly but well
Wrap snugly without harming stem ends wrap well!
Itd feb and my bulbs are doing AWESOME i check on them twice a month and have lost about twenty but whats great is the other bulbs arent affected since they are seperated!!!! So glad i tried plastic wrap lol!!!!

    Bookmark     February 4, 2015 at 12:19AM
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CCvacation

I have an uncle who moved to Mexico, and when I send letters to him, they go to a Texas address. He subscribes to a service that then forwards his US mail to him in batches. It takes about three weeks for a letter to get to him.

I doubt that customs is too worried about out-going plant material into Mexico, so that might be an avenue that you could research. I would worry that tubers might get fried in the heat, though. That is a long time for them to be bagged up with no ventilation and protection. Seeds might be a better choice for you, but the beautiful named cultivars only come from tubers.

    Bookmark     February 3, 2015 at 11:33AM
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CCvacation

Mike, there is a Asociacion Mexicana de la Dalia o Acocoxochitl, and they have a "Dahlia Network" called Red de Dahlias. I don't know where this Mexican Dahlia Society is located, but if you can connect up with them, they might have information on how to obtain varieties already grown in Mexico, and any special cultivation issues for growing dahlias in that climate.

    Bookmark     February 3, 2015 at 11:44AM
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rayagain

I I'am looking for a pollyhouse frame this year so I can start my bulbs earlier and hopefuly have a longer flowering season. Maybe this idea will help you as well. I'm in zone 6 here in south Ontario Canada.

    Bookmark     January 31, 2015 at 4:57PM
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teddahlia

The key to early blooming is to start the tubers in gallon pots well before the planting time-about 6 weeks. You will have to monitor them for killing frosts and many people move them in and out depending on the weather. One avid grower has them on his sunny deck during the day and if there is frost brings them into his garage. The plants should be about a foot high in the pots and when planted they will wilt for a day or two and then grow very rapidly. You will gain several weeks on the season, especially if you have fairly hot summers. Dahlias need to be about 18 inches to two feet tall when really hot weather in the summer hits them. They will continue to grow in the hot weather if they are bigger plants but if they are small plants will not grow during the hot weather. You should be able to get good blooms as soon at the weather cools off in late August.

    Bookmark     February 1, 2015 at 3:45PM
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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

Plant outside after frost. If top is intact leave it alone, maybe it will even bloom earlier this year because it started the season with a big top, instead of having to grow a whole new top from soil level.

Mine always waited until the last minute before frost to start blooming, effectively making it a waste of time except as a novelty offering mostly just foliage. I think this is a typical performance here (PNW), although perhaps flowering is enhanced by placement near a warm wall - I may have seen one or two local examples so situated that had managed to open at least several flowers per stalk, as opposed to like, one for the entire plant.

This post was edited by bboy on Thu, Jan 29, 15 at 14:50

    Bookmark     January 29, 2015 at 2:49PM
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lorabell NC(8)

Thanks for the reply,

Have you ever grown a companion flowering vine with it?

    Bookmark     January 29, 2015 at 3:13PM
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CCvacation

You can really see the tubes in the back bloom. This variety really blooms its head off, and does well in shows, too!

    Bookmark     January 28, 2015 at 12:09PM
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linaria_gw

Hello CC,
great to hear from you, thanks for your answer.
The attached pics are most helpful as they show young and open flowerheads ( which change as described...)
In thhe catalogues it's usually just a fully opened flower. So now I select some pics and let them choose.

By the way, I ordered from a grower in Latvia for the coming season, not a whole bunch, just some very simple waterlily types, and from the farmer who started with 500 cultivars last summer, he has some Swan island or American cultivars, some more water liliew as well. Glad I did so, I decided not to grow any cultivars that don't enthrall me, I just have so few, than each one should be excellent for me...

Completely off topic, my aunt died last night, not surprising as she had a weak heart and stuff. Another reminder that life is finite and you should enjoy it while you can. Not going on a spree or something,

find pleasure in little things, count your blessings...

Well, and look forward to some funny cultivar that has exactly the right kind of fire engine red that I like in some flowers.

Thanks, I hope you have a good start into the Dahlia season, bye, Lin

    Bookmark     January 28, 2015 at 2:22PM
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teddahlia

do they require a real period of dormancy
No

    Bookmark     January 26, 2015 at 10:08AM
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linaria_gw

I had to look up DRagons Breath,
IMO not similar at all.

R World is rather purple/ dark red with white, the shape is more leaning towards semi-cactus.

And all flowers are slightly different as the redwhite-pattern is based on transposons, "jumping genes" that switch the red-information on or off by random.

Apart from that
it is one of my favorits, I grow cut flowers for myself (just about 20 Dahlias), tall plant, needs staking, long stems, flower heads firm on the stalks, starts early, flowers till late in the season,

for me healthy and carefree.

that pic shows the color quite exactly, perhaps you need to order that one as well...

    Bookmark     January 25, 2015 at 4:19PM
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pinkkpearls

ha - the one i have is Penelope!

    Bookmark     January 19, 2015 at 3:01PM
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KarenPA_6b

Hi, Pink Pearls. Wow, I really like Who Dun It and Emperor. They look really awesome. I wonder if Emperor would be as purple as the vendor's pic.

    Bookmark     January 20, 2015 at 8:46PM
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teddahlia

Just leave it alone and only do something if it is going to freeze. I would describe "too much water" in the Winter more as "under water" like a flood. A pot may hold quite a bit of water but "under water" is what kills dahlias. About 24 hours "under water" generally causes them to die. Yes, it would be better to not water it, but it is not a "death sentence".

    Bookmark     January 19, 2015 at 2:36PM
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pinkkpearls

Okay I'll leave it be. I just never had this issue before and didn't know what to do as my hubby said he put the garden hose to it. It still had water running out of the pot as of last night; today it will be close to 70, so I'm sure it will be okay today. Thanks!

    Bookmark     January 19, 2015 at 2:40PM
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dardar614

Anxious to hear how it works

    Bookmark     January 6, 2015 at 3:35PM
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dardar614

Please make sure you post how it works, would be very interested to know

    Bookmark     January 15, 2015 at 8:31PM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

Hard to judge size with the subject coming toward the camera, but if it is 6-8 inches across it may be 'Babylon Purple' or, if smaller, something like 'Thomas Edison' or 'Sassy'. The thing is, cultural differences can affect the bloom size and color and there are a number of purplish-reds out there.

tj

    Bookmark     January 15, 2015 at 6:25PM
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