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highlandernorth

I bought 7 dahlia tubers from Dan's Dahlias, a supposedly reputable grower/dealer, and 1/2 of the ones he sent me were not the ones I ordered!

Turns out, they were out of stock on some of their selection, even though it was early in the season, but instead of removing the out of stock choices from the list, he allowed people to order them anyway, then he just sent out less desirable replacement tubers without even an email beforehand.

Then, turns out that half were dead on arrival anyway!

    Bookmark     December 7, 2011 at 2:11PM
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teddahlia

"even though it was early in the season"
What does that mean? Most of the dahlia vendors are very small operations and sell out on some varieties before January 1st. In some years, a particular variety may make very few tubers or worse, rot in storage before it can be shipped. I would email the people at Dan's and give them an opportunity to make things right. Many of the dahlia nurseries have been in business for a very long time and they would not be successful if they did not make things right with the customers.

    Bookmark     December 9, 2011 at 11:31AM
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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

I wrapped all of mine in newspaper print end rolls. I think the layer of paper helped. My boxes were so stuffed I didn't have any room for bubble wrap, but something to keep them slamming side to side during transit would be a good idea. remember to look at the forecast so the tubers don't freeze in transit.

Keri~

    Bookmark     December 5, 2011 at 12:17PM
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danagr(4)

Keriann, just sent you an email. Let me know if you don't get it.

Dana

    Bookmark     December 1, 2011 at 6:59PM
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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

Shoot. I never got it. Can you resend or put your e-mail on your profile and I can contact you?

Thanks

Keri~

    Bookmark     December 5, 2011 at 12:15PM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

I already have quite a few planted and theres lots of space between them so I was hoping to maybe squeeze some in the open spaces and see how they do. I tried using stakes and then tying the plants loosely to the stake but didn't work to well for me. I tried a couple tomato cages this year that worked pretty good so gonna try that again next yr. I have them mingled in with roses and lilies so I don't plant them in rows but if the cages don't work out I will def use the post and try it that way. Thanks, Judy

    Bookmark     October 28, 2011 at 2:02PM
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santiagorolland(5a)

Regular dahlia plants that reach 4,5 feet or more should be plantes 24 inches apart in any direction. At least in my garden

Santiago Rolland

    Bookmark     December 2, 2011 at 3:18PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

Nope. Think that far south you may not get the longevity seen further north. Just a guess. Steve in Baltimore County.

    Bookmark     November 26, 2011 at 10:40PM
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teddahlia

When some one says to dry the the tubers, they mean to dry them to the point where they are not wet on the outside and the cut portions have healed and dried too. If you dig them when it is dry outside and the tubers are already dry it may only take one day. If you dig them after very wet weather it may take five or more days. The idea is to get them to the perfect combination of dry and cured but not dried out or too wet. And then you want to preserve that ideal moisture content throughout storage. If you put them into very dry vermiculite or wood shavings they will dry out too much. Many people are wrapping the tubers in plastic wrap when they are at the proper moisture level and the plastic keeps them at that proper moisture level. If you use vermiculite, wood shavings or peat moss it must be slightly moistened(very slightly!) and the mixture of vermiculite or whatever placed into a plastic bag of some sorts to preserve the correct moisture level. Tubers left out of a storage medium will shrivel. In some parts of the USA there is very little humidity, the tubers will dry quickly in exposed storage mediums. In more humid areas like the Northwest, that happens much less. So in one sentence: Dry the tubers to the point that they are dry to the touch and the cut portions have healed, then preserve that level of moisture throughout storage.

    Bookmark     November 24, 2011 at 1:02PM
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calik8(sunset18)

No idea how that happened, let me try again

    Bookmark     November 20, 2011 at 7:49PM
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redmond_phyllis

Don't know where Sunset 18 is, but your flowers are beautiful. I sure do miss mine!

    Bookmark     November 20, 2011 at 11:18PM
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honnat

1. It is very difficult to find eyes on them right now. - True. I ask the question - Where would I be if I were an eye? Usually if you get enough of what you call a 'hump' - you will end up with an eye.

2. "...in many cases, 2 or 3 tubers are connected to the same hump." - I will often just keep those two tubers together. It's better than keeping everything together.

3. "There are some tubers that dont seem to be connected to a hump at all..." Yes. the most frustrating part of a healthy tuber clump is that it is a big mess. The best thing is to start with the ones that are obvious. Then, it may reveal the ones that are less obvious. There are some tubers that are not on a 'hump' and they just might not get an eye.

Last year, I left some clumps all together, and other clumps I divided and wrapped tubers individually in saran wrap. The saran wrapped tubers were much healthier in the spring.

I agree that it is usefull to watch the videos; but I'll be honest - the videos sometimes annoy me because they make it look SO EASY. It's not. :)

    Bookmark     November 20, 2011 at 10:31PM
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redmond_phyllis

Yes Honnat . . that's true. They do make it look easier than it is. But for them, it really is easy!!!!

This year, I got some new sharp pruners, and they make dividing so much easier! People recommend ones that you have to send away for, and I didn't have time to wait. So I found some that looked similar to what was advised and could walk out of a store with. They work a lot better than what I've used in the past!

I'm glad that someone else doesn't look for eyes. Last year I tried, but it took me forever to put up my tubers for the year. This year, I'm going for the (as you call them) humps where the eyes should be, then I'll wait to see what they look like in the spring. Or maybe do a closer review when I look through my stash during the winter, once my stash is amassed. I expect that most of what I've cut will have an eye.

    Bookmark     November 20, 2011 at 11:16PM
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edewitt

If you're speaking of Elden Gardens from Montana, I've ordered from them and they're cheap, quick, friendly, and have quality tubers.

    Bookmark     November 18, 2011 at 2:18PM
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collielover

I'm so sorry you had to leave you dahlias, how many did you leave behind? I will have some to share in the spring for postage. Cindy

    Bookmark     November 20, 2011 at 9:17AM
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honnat

I would agree with keriann. I had to laugh as I was picturing myself having the same issue. I try not to get too close; but then start digging so far away that I can't get anything. I'd like to take a trip and observe a big dahlia grower dig them up. There's got to be some tricks that I haven't figured out yet.

    Bookmark     November 19, 2011 at 10:39AM
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redmond_phyllis

Some varieties they're really long, sone varieties are short, some are slender and petite. I can chart/memorize what a bloom looks like, but never had the desire to keep a database on the visual specifics of the tuber . . . wouldn't be a bad idea .. . . just not something most of us are motivated toward. Were there such a list, would anyone refer to it before putting their shovel into the earth? I probably would not.

    Bookmark     November 19, 2011 at 10:39PM
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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

I keep them all and see no correlation between tuber size and plant size. You may lose some when you over winter them so I always save more then needed in case I loose a few. Or you can use the extras in trades! I will say, the first 30 or so clumps I divide are precisely done and I keep them all... by the last 30 or so clumps, I am a bit more careless and run out of patience so less tubers saved :)

Keriann~

    Bookmark     November 18, 2011 at 2:44PM
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redmond_phyllis

I keep most of them too. A lot of people roll them in plastic, I write on the tuber and bury them in layers of cedar chips in a styrofoam cooler. You can store a lot of tubers that way.

    Bookmark     November 18, 2011 at 11:28PM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

They will be fine, no need to rebury. I've grown dahlias for about 20 years (not a lot of varieties, only a handful) and mine have always been a tan color, I think I'd be worried if they were brown.

tj

    Bookmark     November 17, 2011 at 8:06PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

I concur. Steve in Baltimore County.

    Bookmark     November 17, 2011 at 11:18PM
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MommaCarp(5)

Good to hear an opinion of someone who has been able to see it in person. Pictures alone were enough to get me hooked!
I did see that Corralitos had a lower price, but I've never ordered cuttings before, just tubers. I know tubers vs. cuttings is a topic for a whole other thread, though :) I'll probably just stick to what I know I won't kill.
Thanks for the feedback on Harvey Koop....hearing you were blown away by it has bolstered my confidence in purchasing it!

    Bookmark     November 16, 2011 at 10:32AM
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pdshop(5)

Absolutly worth the cost. I just moved so had to leave all my dahlias in the ground as the new owners wanted them. Will rebuy.
Who is on the list for good growers?

    Bookmark     November 16, 2011 at 10:58AM
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monet_g

Oh, be careful, you guys!

I have fairly good luck using regular pruners. Then, if I need to, I go back in with a utility knife. It's those first cuts that are the most difficult because of the force needed and the most dangerous.

Gail

    Bookmark     November 14, 2011 at 8:38AM
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Linda's Garden z6 Utah

Next year I will be a lot more careful. I also used a knife on some parts and even a hammer and screwdriver to bust apart a couple of giant clumps.

Linda

    Bookmark     November 14, 2011 at 4:01PM
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redmond_phyllis

I've seen rot like this before, but only when I've dug in the spring. I haven't dug mine yet, I'm still cutting them down. When I'm done cutting, I'll start back at the first and dig those that I want. I hope I don't see this! My weather issue was not a hot summer . . . .

    Bookmark     November 12, 2011 at 7:57PM
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collielover

I had alot of the mother tubers rotten like this, but I was lucky to have more new tubers on most.

    Bookmark     November 13, 2011 at 5:52PM
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