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mkcounts

Can you store the divided tubers in a refrigerator? We store a lot of bulbs in an extra frig in our garage. If we can store the tubers in the frig it will be much nicer than taking up room in containers in our small garage. This is my first year with Dahlia's so I am anxious to learn and not damage my beautiful flowers.

    Bookmark     September 12, 2010 at 12:08PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

I keep mine in a cold cellar which does not freeze. I would not keep mine in the fridge as I have seen what fridges do to my carrots etc. I do NOT want any condensation, or dehydrating going on whatsoever.

    Bookmark     September 13, 2010 at 9:29PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

Believe I would leave them in pots this late in season. Stev S.

    Bookmark     September 13, 2010 at 6:59PM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

The survival rate is much better if you dig, clean, store as prescribed depending upon what you desire to do wit the pot. If I left mine in the ground here, they would definitely not survive. If I left mine in the garage, they would still freeze if I or my wife accidently left the garage door open. I find that the plants to A LOT better if the roots are not excessively crowded. For sure, I would be digging and storing them.

    Bookmark     September 13, 2010 at 9:26PM
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mandolls(4)

It should survive for next year. There are some areas of the country that have already had their first frost. I would go ahead and dig it and prep it for storage for the winter. With no greenery, leaving it in the ground could cause rot if you have a wet Fall. ( If it was 7 feet tall you might try a sunnier location next year - if you have one)

    Bookmark     September 13, 2010 at 6:38AM
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tiffy_z5_6_can(5/6)

Jerem,
A little over a week ago we got hit by Hurricane Earl here in Nova Scotia. The same things happened to some of my Dahlias and here is the link of my post inquiring about broken stems. Poochella was very helpful!!

Here is a link that might be useful: Hurricane hit - what to do?

    Bookmark     September 13, 2010 at 8:02PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

I think better to leave in pots this late in year. Steve S.

    Bookmark     September 13, 2010 at 4:47PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Dahlia Imperialis, and they are fun to watch grow if nothing else. In zone 5 you will have a challenge to get them to bloom, but it's sure fun trying.

Here are sources from the Big List
* TREE DAHLIA Alpen Gardens
* TREE DAHLIA 3 VARIETIES Corralitos Gardens
* TREE DAHLIA 3 VARIETIES Plant Delights Nursery
* TREE DAHLIA IMPERIALIS Alpen Gardens
* TREE DAHLIA IMPERIALIS Dahlia Dandies
* TREE DAHLIA IMPERIALIS Eagle Dahlia Farm
* TREE DAHLIA IMPERIALIS Love House Dahlias

Here is a link that might be useful: Find them all at the Big List

    Bookmark     September 11, 2010 at 11:43PM
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jillca(5a/Denver)

Fish emulsion is a great organic fertilizer - every 2 weeks. I do it the night before my sprinkler system goes off as it is somewhat stinky. But works great (tuberous begonias love it too)

    Bookmark     September 6, 2010 at 3:07AM
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tracey_nj6(6)

It appears like I'm not even going to get a bud. Still nothing, just nice lush foliage up top. I guess I'll try to overwinter it one more time and fertilize the heck out of it next year...thanks for the help. I might have some fish emulsion; I'll give it a dose and see what happens.

    Bookmark     September 8, 2010 at 2:57PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

This will make you feel better Annabeth: it's been the worst year for dahlias in memory. Soggy, cold miserable May and June right up through 4th of July. There isn't a month yet we haven't had our furnace on at least once or twice while the rest of the country deep fried in 90's and 100's. At best, 30% of my plants have bloomed and the others slowly, slowly coming around to show color. Blooms that are usually 6" are 4", 3" are barely 2" etc. Weird year.

I keep hearing 'summer is over' and just shake my head hoping that isn't true. It hasn't started, as far as I can tell LOL! September is usually my best month for blooms- too many sometimes- but the spiders are already weaving their webs that typically don't show up til October, and there's that annoying chill in the air :(

The only thing to do is start planning for 2011, continue to fight your bugs and diseases and dream of better dahlias. Lyn's April has yet to bloom but to date is 4 ft tall, thanks for telling me the height though.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2010 at 11:06PM
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annabeth(Zone 8 No Cal inland)

Poochella, I always, always look forward to reading your responses on every post. Thanks for the encouragement!

I know it has been a weird year but I also berate myself for getting a later start than I should have on planting and uncovering the dahlias that overwintered. I also know that I need to feed them more often than I do. I was jump-started back into action after see the Swan Island dahlias. I don't know if the insecticidal soap and the traps will help much but I at least feel like I'm doing something positive to help the dahlias.

By the way, do you know if some tiny green spots on petals might be White Fly eggs? I brought a Wyn's Farmer John into the house and I noticed the spots on about 1/8th of the petals. It was hard to do but I threw it away outside thinking it might be some little baby White Flys that I don't want on my houseplants. It was difficult to throw away the bloom though. Talk about Bee-Yu-Tee-Full. I put it in a silver mint julep cup that has that pretty patina on it that silver gets just before it really tarnishes. So it looked sort of gold-ish as well as silver. It made the bloom look very ritzy. Most of the time I think of dahlias as a beautiful but not necessarily elegant flower. This could have set on the table at a fine restaurant, except for those tiny green spots.

Anyway, thanks again for the encouragement Poochella. I am trying to get to our local Farmer's Market with my dahlias but I don't feel confident enough in the quality of my blooms or even their quantity right now. Even if I could only get there once this year, it would at least be a learning experience for next year. I wouldn't even need to make a profit this year--I just want to get over the hump of starting.
Good Luck to you and your dahlias!
Annabeth

    Bookmark     September 7, 2010 at 1:08PM
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Missy, Traverse City, Mi Z5

You asked if it would be too much of a hassle to grow them when i could grow so many other flowers that are hardier? Absolutely not! I think dahlias are the greatest flowers there are, because there are so many types, colors, sizes, etc. They are not that hard to grow and I have found every year that the tubers sold at the less expensive big box stores are actually more productive than a lot of the tubers you order from the specialty businesses.

    Bookmark     August 9, 2010 at 7:11PM
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greenpassion(z4-z5 VT)

Can someone kindly help me too? Does anyone from this forum know anything about dahlia diseases? I just posted "Dahlias diseased with what?" Please, will someone read this and feel free to respond. By the way these dahlias I mention in that posting are in their third year with me. I overwinter them in peat moss in tubs in my basement. They're sick, but huge, and I forgot to mention that they've continued to flower profusly with out fail all summer. One of them is 'Boogie Woogie' and it's beautiful....HELP!!!!

    Bookmark     September 7, 2010 at 8:52AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Good. Glad you can save some! One other thing I forgot: if you have any open/hollow stalks on the broken off ones, cover them somehow to prevent rain from getting in and ruining the tubers. Foil caps, perhaps, or some kind of covering. Mine broke below ground so it was safe enough to mulch well and dig later.

    Bookmark     September 6, 2010 at 4:41PM
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tiffy_z5_6_can(5/6)

I thank-you again for the hollow advice! I noticed some of them had hollows and was wondering if that wold cause problems.

    Bookmark     September 6, 2010 at 9:22PM
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mandolls(4)

Just use other plants for the green if you want it in your arrangements. We have been using long hosta leaves and wild asparagus.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2010 at 7:18AM
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jillca(5a/Denver)

Scented greenery is great -I use my rose scented geranium for green filler.

    Bookmark     September 6, 2010 at 3:14AM
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annabeth(Zone 8 No Cal inland)

Jroot--Since your wife is of Ukranian descent, I wonder if you grow the dahlia Ukraine Free?
I got it this year, but I can't say much about it except that it hasn't bloomed yet. I don't believe it is the dahlia's fault though since it got a late start in my garden. I got it from Accent based solely on their description that it is super heat-tolerant. I don't think I'll have a chance to test that this year since it doesn't even have a bud yet and by the time it blooms it will be cooler (I hope).

Somehow I knew that you built that little bird church. Maybe if you offered Coffee and Donuts, they'd come back. :)

Annabeth

    Bookmark     September 1, 2010 at 1:15AM
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jroot(5A Ont. Canada (near Guelph))

No, Annabeth, I do not have Ukraine Free. I will have to "check it out" though. Thanks for the tip. It certainly has a nice colour. Do you know if it is a tall variety?

I just got home from a trip to Newfoundland, and have not yet had a chance to get out to see how the dahlias are doing. It is still dark out here, as my internal clock is an hour and a half a head of us still, which explains my being up so early.

Here is a link that might be useful: Ukraine Free Dahlia photo

    Bookmark     September 1, 2010 at 6:39AM
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annabeth(Zone 8 No Cal inland)

Paddlehikeva--How was it? I just got back from Swan Island's Dahlia Festival in Oregon. Anyone go to that?

Annabeth

    Bookmark     September 1, 2010 at 1:04AM
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Noni Morrison

I bought dahlias that in my own experience have the characteristics of good cut flower dahlias. Our flower stands are outdoors and get way too hot in the summer so choosing flowers that will stand up to that is of utmost importance. I prefer waterlily and ball types that have a heavy substance to their petals. I also prefer mostly smaller sizes, with a few spectacular big flowers for special events. Also, in our experience, some colors sell better then others, i.e. it is hard to sell pink bouquets of any kind! Part of that may be the shade on my main stand as it is back under overhanging eaves of a large old country store. This is better for the flowers but makes difficult lighting conditions, so the brighter my bouquets the better they sell! Anyhow, those are the criteria I used. I would have probably not boughten a dahlia that was not listed as a good cut flower at Swan Island.

I bought nearly all different dahlias. I have space for 130 and that is that. Any others have to go into my personal garden among the lilies and roses. That is also where I put the ones that failed as cut flowers but are pretty to look at, as well as the anemones and orchid types. I leave my dahlias in place for 3 years, and then divide all of them. I did have about 30 that survived last winter.

Oe the new introductions, I especially am liking Sheer Heaven, Diva, Bluetiful, Mango Madness, Andrew Charles. Other favorites are Bahama Mama, Dazzle Me, Fatima,Jordon Nicole, Loverboy, Moonstruck,Nicholas,Polyvention Supreme, White Polyvention, Rip City, Ripples, Sandia Shomei, September Morn, Sun Kissed, Vessio Meggos,Voodoo, Wildwood MArie, Joel Lousisa, Ahoy Matey, Bracken Lorelie and can't remember the names of the others.

I have other favorites among the Cowlitz River Dahlias, Clack's, Dan's Dahlias, particularly Sunshine Paul who just oped its first flower this week. Most of CRD flowers have not started blooming yet in this strangely cool summer, but are perking along.Ask me next month and I will probably have a whole new list :-) .

    Bookmark     August 28, 2010 at 12:48AM
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annabeth(Zone 8 No Cal inland)

Thanks for the answers, Lizalily! As a matter of fact, I just got back from visiting Swan Island Dahlias at their Dahlia Festival. I really liked Diva and Honeymoon especially. Nick Sr. was awesome as well. My biggest surprise was how beautiful Innocence was. It is a pale pink and white one but was absolutley fabulous. I believe it is an older variety. Plum Pretty was another that really caught my eye. Also, the anemone Platinum Blonde was very interesting and I wonder why it is not considered a cutter by them, except that maybe it doesn't have a long vase life. It sure was plentiful and long-stemmed. Loverboy was a standout as well. And as weird as they are, I was quite interested in Junkyard Dog and Mars.

I realized that I didn't take many pictures of the individual varieties since I was taking written notes and I was too caught up in the flowers to want to bother with my camera while in the indoor displays. I did take some general pics of the fields that I'll have to post soon. I hope others will take pics too and post them here.

Thanks for the answers!

    Bookmark     August 31, 2010 at 2:46PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

That is GOOD news.. Steve S.

    Bookmark     August 26, 2010 at 5:37PM
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mandolls(4)

What you dont say is how mature the plants are now. If you planted them in decent sized containers and have been taking care of them then I would expect them to have started to flower by now or at least have buds.

If you are zone 4 like me, then you only have another month and a half of growing season (if we are lucky). I still have a couple of plants that haven't flowered, but they are over 4 ft tall, and I have been bringing in big bouquets every other day or so since mid-July from most of my plants.

I would go ahead and put them in the ground. Even if you dont get many flowers this year, the leaves will feed the tubers and they should be fine for next year.

Due to being out of the country one year, I only had mine in the ground from mid-July to mid-September. Most of them came back fine the following year.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2010 at 8:21AM
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