3,226 Garden Web Discussions | Dahlias

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nhdahlialover

Here it is today. Now, if only I knew what it was...passionate or midnight dancer I'm thinking. Though I'm leaning toward passionate.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2010 at 10:32AM
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pdshop(5)

I am with you nh, Just got my first bloom this week from a Lorio Diablo my favorite. Have had wind and sun all summer. No rain. Of course I thought dahlias liked that so I was surprised when they weren't blooming in June????

    Bookmark     July 27, 2010 at 8:41AM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Please post what you find out about international D.Imperialis shipping, or if they even offer seeds.

We got off to a slow start here a cold, wet spring. But things are growing nicely now, with buds and branches forming daily. I don't have many new ones this year.

    Bookmark     July 21, 2010 at 11:36AM
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izharhaq

I found a source for the seeds but they are out of stock right now..

Here is a link that might be useful: Chiltern Seeds

    Bookmark     July 27, 2010 at 3:51AM
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ladybugsmom192(9)

@pvdahlia - thanks for chiming in, i want as much advice, info, suggestions, and recommendations! i do stay away from MG and only use tomato food. i've gone ahead and planted it, and i'm keeping my fingers crossed!

thanks again :)

    Bookmark     July 23, 2010 at 8:02PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Ladybugsmom did you plant just the plant, or the whole pot?

I've transplanted 3 foot plants from the garden to another spot in another bed, but never out of a pot, so I'm curious what you decided to do and how it went.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2010 at 12:43AM
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pvdahlia

Check your fertilizer! The wrong fertilizer or insufficient fertilizer is notorious for causing weak, skinny stems. Dahlias need a fertilizer that has a relatively low nitrogen and high potassium and phosporus content (exactly the opposite of what you get when you reach for Miracle Gro!). Unfortunately I found out the hard way last year. Fertilizers meant for bulbs or even for vegetables that have a low first number and higer second and third numbers are better options. Good luck!

    Bookmark     July 22, 2010 at 1:01AM
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ladybugsmom192(9)

ok, i did it!! i've got her in the ground!! i put her in on tuesday (took me that long to get up the nerve!), and as of today she's doing well. and dear hubby got me what i think to be a miniature one, so i've got them planted next to each other. they get late morning to late afternoon sun, and my big girl (the one i've been fretting over) is starting to bloom! i'm excited.

i've been giving her tomato fertilizer and she really seems to like it. so i'm keeping my fingers crossed!

thanks again everyone!

    Bookmark     July 23, 2010 at 7:57PM
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pdshop(5)

Same here. Also more rotted tubers than usual even in hot dry soil??? I feel sorry for them in this heat.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2010 at 4:25PM
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greenpassion(z4-z5 VT)

I have several potted Dahlias on my deck. I began to notice that all of sudden a few of them severly wilted in the sun. (I keep everything well watered) So these I moved into the shade of my off-set umbrella. Not much improvment. Then I began to notice they looked like they're dying, off color leaves, totally wilting in sections, but still flowering. Now all but one has this illness. I have sprayed with Agway orchard spray, which has never failed to cure any sickness, but still it keeps progressing. I hate to get rid of them. Help!!

    Bookmark     July 23, 2010 at 12:57PM
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john3(7a)

Buying named tubers is not my thing, since I don't have the proper space and sunlight. Too staid for me as well. I rather experiment with what is in the seed mix. Yes, starting with Unwins is 'lower rent', but I now have blooming for the third year: three semi-double whites, and single purple/white/yellow-green, double apricot, large rosy single, and a single yellow, a single scarlet. If I had the space, I'd plant collected seeds, and evaluate the results. I'm a propagator; it's my safe s**. Enjoy a Sudoku puzzle on the shaded porch, watching the bumble bees, butterflies, and flies, flit and fly!! Gotta love the gardening, eh? Happy growing, ya'll!

    Bookmark     July 22, 2010 at 3:25PM
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izharhaq

Bishop's Children, Sutton's dwarf redskin and Dwarf minstrel can be your options.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2010 at 5:51AM
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busy-girl

Hi Forsythia!
Could your first picture be Amorous?

    Bookmark     July 21, 2010 at 11:04AM
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forsythia

That is what I was thinking, too, busy-girl. I hope that it is. Thank you.
Forsythia

    Bookmark     July 22, 2010 at 2:26AM
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unclehead_gw

Tricia, As I posted above ,earlier in the week I was killing a hundred or so each night. I have seen diminishing numbers for the last five nights. Last night in twenty minutes of "hunting" I only found one. Most of the damage to my dahlias was done before I found this culprit. A couple of plants have probably 25-35% of the leaves eaten off. Not being a dahlia expert, I don't know how much damage a plant can sustain. They are still growing and the new growth is looking good. A neighbor told me that Milky Spore might work if everyone in the area would use it,otherwise you'll just get someone else's beetles. Good luck hunting. unc

    Bookmark     July 21, 2010 at 1:24PM
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tricia123(Z6 Cape Cod)

Unc, Good luck hunting to you too! One bonus was last night I saw several tiny tree frogs sitting in some of the dahlia flowers.Let's hope that this generation of beetles is almost done. Tricia

    Bookmark     July 21, 2010 at 9:03PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Botrytis? Read here

Here is a link that might be useful: Cornell Plant clinic

    Bookmark     July 20, 2010 at 12:06AM
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lily51(OH 5)

thanks so much...sounds like a real possibility, especially since my dahlias ar in the same bed every year, no other plants with them.

that's why I love garden web..helpful people, sharing people.

    Bookmark     July 20, 2010 at 6:54AM
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teddahlia

For the past 5 or 6 years, we have been planting a cover crop on our garden after we dig the tubers. Here in Oregon, there is just enough warmth in the soil in late October and early November to get the cover crop started. I do a quick, one pass till with my tractor and spread the seeds(by hand) over the soil and rake them in with a garden rake. They sprout and by Christmas it is usually 2-3 inches tall. The cover crop seed mix is sold by our local farm co-op and is not very expensive. I plant 1/2 acre for about $35- in seed cost. The mix contains: Annual ryegrass, vetch, crimson clover, austrian peas(leaves are edible in the Spring!), buckwheat(does not over winter). The cover crop grows to a height of 4-5 feet by May 1st. My wife is 5 feet tall and in a typical year some of it is taller than her. We mow it down with a riding lawn mower and immediately till the soil. Dahlias are planted right away. I am going to cut sown the cover crop at 3 feet tall next year because it was so thick this year it was hard to cut down with the mower. No spray is used to kill the cover crop and since nothing has gone to seed, it all disappears. Legumes add some nitrogen to soil and soil is full of excellent organic material. Another benefit is weed reduction as they cannot compete with cover crop in the Spring.

    Bookmark     July 15, 2010 at 1:45PM
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Poochella(7 WA)

Thanks for sharing this info, Ted. I'd like to try this. I'd really like to have all tubers up by early November, but that's a mere pipe dream here. Perhaps I'll try it on a couple beds and see how/if it germinates in December.

    Bookmark     July 19, 2010 at 1:21AM
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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

I would search this forum at the bottom of this page for 'dahlia storage'. There are a lot of great threads on here.

If you still have questions come back and post again.
Keriann~

    Bookmark     July 15, 2010 at 8:39PM
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jilluis

I would keep it in the ground until it frosts, cut off the foliage, then a week later dig it up, wash it, dry it, and store it in peat moss in a cool place. Some people do fungicide. I didn't last year do fungicide last year, but may this year.
Good luck!

    Bookmark     July 17, 2010 at 12:43PM
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oscarthecat(z7MD)

Possibly cutworms??? Steve S.

    Bookmark     July 14, 2010 at 7:05AM
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jilluis

Bleck...
I dug them up. Totally rotted and gross!!
Two others were looking wilty so I dug them up, one was fine but the other was rotted too. I cut out the rotted stuff, let it dry for a few hours... Now it looks eve worse! but we will see! Thanks for your help

    Bookmark     July 17, 2010 at 12:40PM
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pdshop(5)

Some of my plants are so hard to pinch. There is always a mass of more leaves around the area that I need to pinch out.
On the subject, I had some tubers with about 4 inches of growth so I cut it back to one inch as I read to do. Tubers haven't grown an ince since than!?

    Bookmark     July 2, 2010 at 11:32AM
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sjmarshes

After reading the way redmond_phyllis deals with their extra shoots I tried it about 2 weeks ago with 2 shoots. I was amazed to find that they took in this horrible hot and dry weather! I did not treat them differently than the mother plant and they got watered only when all the other plants got watered. I have been watering more often than usual so possibly that helped.
Thanks so much for posting this!

    Bookmark     July 17, 2010 at 10:26AM
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teddahlia

I believe you are saying that the tuber sprouted in the ground but is not growing because there are no feeder roots. Some tubers are slow to send out feeder roots and an old timer said to cut off about 1/2 inch off the end of the tuber and re-plant. That stimulates the plant to grow roots. Alternatively, there could be an insect that is eating the roots and you would have to treat the soil with some insecticide.

    Bookmark     July 15, 2010 at 6:07PM
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