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Posted by freshair2townsquare 8a, DFW (My Page) on Tue, Sep 9, 08 at 16:12
| I have two children in wheelchairs, and I'd like to make our backyard more accessible to them.
What materials have y'all found to be wheel/tire friendly or unfriendly?
* marti8a -- Did you ever try the grass grids that you mentioned in the tools thread some time ago, and do you know where we can get them in Dallas? (or anyone else?)
~ Amy |
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RE: wheels accessibility
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| I'm a little frustrated that no one has commented. I personally am not disabled, but I'm raising two children who are. It would be great if the disabled population of this online community would provide a bit of helpful feedback on this topic. It's been my experience (within the realm of education) that parents of children with special needs rarely network the way other parent subgroups do (band parents, football parents, GT parents and so on). Because of that, we don't share info, we don't support each other, etc. It seems so ironic that a group that stands to benefit so much from one another's experiences shares information the least. I'm willing to bear my portion of the blame on that. I shut people out b/c I'm already overloaded with my own issues and don't have any energy left for someone elses. But I'm asking y'all a pretty basic question, and the entire forum has been silent on this for 3 weeks. What gives? ~ Amy |
RE: wheels accessibility
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Hi Amy, I don't have any personal experience with disabilities but I do have a product that might make your backyard more accessible to your children. We sell a liquid polyurethane that is used to pour over loose gravel to create natural looking and ADA compliant pathways. If it does sound like something you might be interested in I ask that you check out our web site. http://www.klingstonepaths.com I hope you get more info out of these blogs. I am surprised by the lack of posts too. Geez |
Here is a link that might be useful: Klingstone Paths
RE: wheels accessibility
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| I'm wheelchair bound, and use a power chair. After getting stuck in the yard numerous times I added a large deck and do most of my gardening there. But, I do miss the yard! Grass is ok if it is dry, but wet grass is very slippery. Mud and sand are, of course, problems. Gravel works very nicely. So do wood chips (had half the trees in my back yard cut so my deck would get light). My cement walk is a breeze. If done right, I'd think pavers would work well. Kudos for wantiong tp get the kids gardening. Wish the world had more mothers like you. |
RE: wheels accessibility
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| You don't say how old your children are, or if they can maneuver their wheelchairs by themselves. I'm suspecting that you don't have a lot of spare money. You might contact some landscaping supply companies, the ones who sell the bulk bark, soil, sand, rock, etc. Tell them what you want to do, and ask about their rock that is about 1.25" in diameter (chunk, not round). A friend of mine used this stuff to make her driveway. The main problem I see with it for your purposes is that it would have to be tamped down to lock together and lie flat. (My friend just drove her truck back and forth over it.) This rock in WA State is $14/cubic yard. I am thinking that if the soil where this path would go was loosened about 3" deep, and the rocks laid down, and then tamped down, they might set quite smoothly. If this seems like a viable idea, you might contact your local Boy Scout group, and ask if they would be able to help you do the labor (the boys could get merit badges). And it's going to be hard labor, as that stuff sure isn't light! One thing I would want to warn you about is not to use anything much smaller than the 1.25" rock, and it MUST have flat, chunky sides. The smaller it is, the more is likely to shift or sink into the soil/mud in winter. I hope you can find a solution to your problem. Sue |
RE: wheels accessibility
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| Amy, I'm sorry I haven't been around here in a long time. No, I never tried the grass grids and am not sure where to find them. I would start by calling landscaping companies. I am going to put them in my next house. We put stone walks in here & it was a big mistake, They are much too rough. We also have some decks, one is wood and one is a Trex like one. Not having done a Trex one before, my dh made the spacing the same as the wood to allow for expansion and it's really too far apart for a wheelchair. Concrete is the best, but not possible for us in the areas we need it. Plain grass would probably be better than the stone walk, but we needed access in areas that get boggy for long times. The last thing we did was use the 16x16" concrete pavers from Walmart or Home Depot. Once leveled, they seem to stay really flat & tight to each other, are reasonably priced and I can pick one up by myself, at least for now. |
RE: wheels accessibility
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- Posted by memo NE-Zone 4B (My Page) on
Tue, Feb 24, 09 at 3:20
| I googled 'grass grids' and tons of companys sell them. Camping World also sells them, to place outside your camper stairs etc., if you have one near you. Other RV facilities may sell them as well. MeMo |
RE: wheels accessibility
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| Off-topic, and no experience with this, but I wonder if having some veggies and herbs in taller containers along the path would be fun for your kids- tall enough that they can touch/smell/pick from their chairs? Hope it goes well :-) |
RE: wheels accessibility
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| Howdy ~ Took an internet hiatus for a while. a) So far, the options I've explored are either too expensive or too labor-intensive. Two months ago, I was diagnosed with osteopenia & a compressed lumbar disk, so I'm having to limit my heavy work so that I can lift the kids when I need to. The materials that I could possibly manage, in terms of budget and logistics, are poor candidates: gravel, mulch, etc. b) There's also the issue of resale value. We're certain this isn't our "forever house", so we'll eventually need to sell the house. Not sure a path to nowhere (nowhere, as in it won't be going to a jacuzzi or "outdoor living area") will be marketable down the road. c) The kids are 10, severely low-functioning, and completely dependent. So any time they're outside, they'll be pushed & then won't be left alone either. Their outdoor experiences will be sensory rather than functional - they won't actually be "gardening." One of them mouths everything, so we'll be keeping his hands away from anything that shouldn't go into his mouth, which is almost everything outside. d) They both sort of wilt in the heat, but they also both love fresh air, wind, and outdoor sounds. My sole objective is a way to get them from the patio to the opposite corner of the backyard (about 15yds - typical small suburban yard) so they can enjoy another part of the yard during comfortable weather. ~ freshair |
RE: wheels accessibility
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Hi Freshair, I am very new to these forums (about 30 minutes old, lol) and I came across your post. I am the Mom of a 6 year old daughter who has special needs (physical & chronic illness), and was looking for any ideas anyone had on making our new back yard as accessible as possible. Have you thought about possibly putting in a contained texture garden? My oldest daughter made one last spring with her garden club and it was wonderful. |
RE: wheels accessibility
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| I found for myself that the grass needs to be kept well groomed and the yard rolled or at least smoothed out to prevent being stuck or at least at a great disadvantage. If you want them to be gardeners then it looks like you will need raised beds or large pots as it is very hard to weed or plant from a wheelchair. Much easier setting or laying on the ground. But then there is a problem getting back into my wheelchair. But then it is also good for learning how to do things for your self. Even mulch if too deep is a problem, roots in the yard cause me a lot of problems as it is the same as being stuck in a hole. I do not like sand or gravel to me that is worse than tall grass with sand you bog down and gravel is like having brakes all over the place. I am a one legged 73 old duffer and this is from my experience so I am only speaking from my own experiences. I have even tipped over backwards from getting into a "hole" in the yard. I don't know how well they are able to get around but it sounds like you need to keep working with them and try to see what all they may need in making your yard more accessible for them. They should be the best in helping you work through this learning process. It is great that they want to be active too many don't, I wish you well Paul |
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