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| ...or a rash exactly like it. Tiny little oh-so-itchy blisters in singles and line-shaped clumps. I've had PI many times as a kid and have definitely learned to recognize it and avoid it. I'm certain there is none growing in my yard (and never has in the 5 years I've been here) and don't see any around the fences in neighbors' yards although there are a ton of weeds along the fence on 2 sides. They are all plants I've handled before with no problem. Nothing that looks like poison sumac out there either. I haven't been anywhere near PI since last year while camping. None of my tools have been exposed to PI. So I really think it's coming from some other plant although the rash is identical.
What could be doing this? I mowed Monday and started breaking out later that day, with new blisters showing up today still. Could I suddenly have developed an allergic reaction to one of these?:
That's what I can remember touching within the past week but if you know of something else that can cause a rash identical to PI please say so, it could be out there & I'm just not thinking of it. One other thought I had was that I was handling leaf litter. Could PI leaves have blown into my yard and still have urishiol on them? I also threw out those black walnuts (from another post) and since the carboard boxes no longer had bottoms, I touched them a lot. |
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| purple, I'm not sure what it could have been but I can tell you that MANY plants can cause dermatitis. Just for a couple of examples, your English ivy and honeysuckle are known irritants. I haven't looked up any plants on your list, but you might want to do that before you go digging around anymore. Yes, the urushiol in PI can be very persistent. I don't know if Ivy Block works for other plants than PI (and relatives), but a whole bunch of the arborists and landscapers that I've taught over the years swear by it. Might be worth investigating! |
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| Dear purpleinopp 8b AL, Do you sleep on a mattress? If so, you may have bedbugs. Call an exterminator. |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Tue, Apr 3, 12 at 11:55
| Thanks for the replies & suggestion. I appreciate any straw to grasp at and/or thoughts anyone has. There is a few-years-old discussion on the perennial forum about plants that can cause a rash, but I read that over a couple times and didn't find anything I haven't touched many times before. Of course I sleep on a mattress, but my partner doesn't have any of this rash (which appeared suddenly after several days of the first yardwork of the year). This Wiki article includes some plants known to cause contact dermatitis. The 3 suspects are Quercus - I moved a lot of oak leaves last weekend. I was surprised to find this on the list since I've never heard of anyone being allergic to oak leaves, and the regular Quercus article on Wiki doesn't mention contact dermatitis. The other two are greater celandine and English ivy. I did take some cuttings of my potted variegated Hedera helix, but can't figure how that would have yielded rash spots on my legs. I guess I could have transferred the oil from arm to leg when I sat down to rest. The celandine doesn't look familiar by flower or leaf. Would that be a "normal" weed for this area? I think I would have noticed yellow sap if I pulled some up? This happened last spring also, although just on 1 wrist. This year I've managed to get it on both forearms & a few spots on my legs. It is concentrated on the "bottom" of my forearms, right where I would have had the most contact with the leaves I was picking up by the armload. There is also grape ivy growing in a few spots that I probably brushed against, but unless I've developed a new allergy to this plant, I ruled that out since I've handled it many times before although I know it's got a reputation for giving people a rash. I ripped some off the fence last summer in chunks with my hands and didn't get any rash. Luckily most of the spots are about finished, and thanks to the wonderful folks at Aveeno, I've been able to turn the itching down to a dull roar. The mystery remains, though... |
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| I don't think it's a mystery. You spend a lot of time working around a wide variety of plants MANY of which can and do cause contact dermatitis. It could very well be (and most likely IS) a reaction to more than one plant. Some people are more sensitive than others. To avoid problems in the future, you may need to wear long sleeves and gloves while working...and strip off before coming inside to jump into a hot shower. I still think you ought to investigate the IVY OFF, a lotion you simply apply before you begin your yard work. (Gee, purple....you really sleep on a mattress? Gawly, you comin up in the world, ain't ya? lolol) |
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| Re: Bedbugs and Their Feeding Habits Research reveals that the common bedbug discriminates in its dining options. For example, multiple humans may routinely repose upon the same mattress, but not all of the reposers will become targets of the bedbugs' dining pleasure. Some may be nibbled upon; others not. There's no accounting for taste--even among bedbugs. |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Wed, Apr 4, 12 at 11:34
| Again, thanks for the suggestion, Jay, but we don't have any of the 3 types of bed bugs. This rash appeared suddenly, within 48 hours, is subsiding, and does not look like pics of bed bug bites. Naturally, though, they would choose to bite me over him, good point! I wonder how those researchers were able to stay focused in the midst of an orgy?! Multiple people sleeping in a bed. Kinky. Thanks again, Rhizo, good ideas for prevention. If it happens again, I think I'll be motivated enough to see an allergist. Guess we'll have to find new, upscale friends when we get a new mattress soon. This set is only 3 years old, but I knew the euro-top would cave in. We're going to bite the bullet & get a ******pedic! |
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| I can't speak to the plant causing the problem, but another solution help is Tecnu. I hate PI, and use Ivy Off before I'm going to be in the weedy area - Tecnu you use after possible contact, when you come in. It's helped keep PI away from me (plus increased diligence watching for it, of course). |
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| Dear purpleinopp, If you've ruled out bedbugs, it may be a case of The Shingles. |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Mon, Apr 9, 12 at 17:30
| Thanks, drippy. Hopefully I won't get into this again & it is gone except for some reddish spots where you can see where it was. Whew! |
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- Posted by organic_kitten 7 (My Page) on Thu, Apr 19, 12 at 22:36
| Fig Leaves give me a problem, but it usually lasts only a day or so, and PI lasts much longer, Miserable while it lasts, however. kay |
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| Drippy, Tecnu is a life saver! I suffered for years with poison ivy from smoke that drifted over from people burning the overgrowth around trees in Kansas. I cannot stop from getting the nasty rash but can scrub the oils off my skin with tecnu and find relief. So far, here in Tennessee I have not had any problems which I think really supports my theory that it was the drifting smoke that got to me in Kansas. Anyway, just a hip hip hurrah for tecnu!!! Julie |
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- Posted by AebischerDavid none (My Page) on Thu, Apr 26, 12 at 3:15
| If you feel that your household can be swarmed by these particular terrible scary crawlies, it might be beneficial to discover more regarding cures for the removal of bedbugs. Initially, you'll need one simple suggestion on the subject of the concealing destinations. Examine the stitches or folds from your bedding. You are most probably to discover these kinds of pesky insects hidden in it. You will need to also search inside carpeting and rugs or loose picture. Go searching for crevices in the wall space. All of these could also be hidden below wall hangings. If you've got recently purchased very old or previously owned bedroom furniture, give a great look. If the room in your home is in a mess, they likely should have an abundance of location to conceal, so, it may be worthy to have the surrounding thoroughly clean. Provided below is a facts about selected successful family home treatments for bedbugs removal. |
Here is a link that might be useful: get rid of bed bugs
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Thu, Apr 26, 12 at 8:54
| Hi David & welcome to Gardenweb. As I said on 4/9, my contact dermatitis is gone. If anyone who reads this does have an actual bed bug problem and not poison ivy, I hope this info is helpful. |
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| purple....lolololol I'm waiting to see what other 'dreaded' scourge you are diagnosed with. |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Thu, Apr 26, 12 at 10:11
| LOL! IKR! Herpes!? |
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| I am allergic to PI also.Use to catch it every year as a kid playing in the woods.My grandfather believed in taking a good yard bath in rubbing alcohol during and after working in the yard/farm. He would buy it by the case and always hand me a full bottle to wash down my arms and legs.I never had problems with PI when I did this.He had some kind of wild bush growing everywhere my grandfather warned me not to touch.He referred to it as the "Fire Bush". He claimed it was worse than PI or PO. |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Sat, Jun 16, 12 at 9:01
| Don't know why I never saw your post before, bamatufa. Thanks for the input! Wonder if that "fire bush" was poison sumac? I don't go in the woods and would never trust bathing or anything to wash off urishiol, although I'm sure that works. I just never touch it, so I know my rash isn't from actual PI. An entry in the weeds forum has me wondering. There is a picture of a weed I know I've pulled a lot each spring. Wonder if it was this Euphorbia? |
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- Posted by alabamanicole 7b (My Page) on Sat, Jun 16, 12 at 9:47
| Purple, I have that spurge and it doesn't bother me at all. But by chance are you allergic to latex? It has a latex sap, as do quite a few plants. By the way, all the Euphorbia sp. have latex in them. You might want to in vestigate if this is the problem plant before picking up the Spurge you mentioned on the other thread. |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Sun, Jun 17, 12 at 17:16
| I don't want to find out if I'm allergic to the spurge I mentioned in my other post here, and Euphorbias are well-known rash-causers for those who are sensitive, already decided against it. MIGHT give me a rash and probably will die, no thanks! But I thought maybe since that one used to be named something else it might not have irritating sap in it. That's why the other post in weed forum which named the pictured plant Euphorbia caught my attention. That I know of, I've not had contact with any Euphorbias before moving here from OH a few years ago, so I will hope/assume the one pictured in the discussion on the weeds forum is the plant giving me a rash. Next time I notice some, I'll use a plastic bag to pull it, wash immediately in case (the same way I pull PI sprouts but luckily haven't had any of those here.) If I do that and get through next spring without getting a rash again, that was probably it. If not... (serious sailor cussing!) LOL! thanks!! |
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| a simple change in daily regimens can effect a rash, too. i broke out 2 weekends ago in a rash that at first resembled poison ivy exposure. it never progressed into blisters that weeped but it was red, raised and very itchy. as it turns out, the cause was a change in laundry detergent. i have used a free and clear detergent for years but decided to buy tide brand a few weeks ago. just washing clothes, towels and sheets in that brand caused contact dermatitis. i have since re-washed everything in a brand with no dyes or perfumes and am clearing up. just a thought for your consideration. possibly changing bath soap or body wash might do the same thing. |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Wed, Jun 20, 12 at 17:00
| That's an excellent suggestion. My daughter has to use that laundry soap for babies, and only certain soaps and lotions, so I'm familiar with the idea. Unfortunately I haven't changed brands of anything for an embarrassingly long time. It's "on the record" now for whoever may read this, desperately itching. Glad that no longer includes you! Thanks for taking a minute to share it! |
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| I think we had some mulch one time that contained poison ivy. I know I didn't come in contact with any from my yard, yet after having re-potted several plants I then developed the classic poison ivy type rash between my fingers. My wife also did, and the only thing we both came in contact with was the mulch |
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- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Wed, Oct 24, 12 at 14:52
| You know, that's not out of the realm of possibility, super. There's construction debris in mulch sometimes, PI debris is not out of the question!! It's very plausible that something from the bag could brush my wrist, where this keeps happening, then I only wash hands but not wrist if I don't see dirt there. Interesting hypothesis! |
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