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Problem with amaryllis silhouette

tasdevil
18 years ago

I bought an amaryllis silhouette bulb over two years ago. This is a variegated type (green with a white stripe that runs down the midvein of the leaf) and is suppose to produce numerous pink flowers. Has anyone had experience with this variety because mine is not doing very well.

I planted it into a 5" pot and it took about 3-4 months for it to do anything. And then it was only to grow a 1" long leaf. By summertime (around 6-8 months after planting) it finally started putting up half decent leaves, but not so much as a peep of a flower. Now in its third winter there has still been no flowers and few leaves, many of which seem undersized (biggest leaf is perhaps 7" but most are much smaller). However, it has been busy multiplying with numerous bulbs (six including the original).

I have tried fertilizing and giving it excellent light (south facing bay window in winter and it goes outside in the summer), but it still grows weakly. It has now been demoted to a north window where it continues to not do much. I should mention that the original bulb was only 2", but all the silhouette bulbs I have seen have been that size. Is it just me, or is silhouette a hard variety to grow?

Comments (59)

  • haweha
    16 years ago

    I assume that the main reasons for failures are too much water, particularly from above and, (associated with that) tarsonemid mites (narcissus bulb mite, Steneotarsonemus laticeps). IF the lower part of the leaves is covered with small red spots and streaks this does indicate the incidence of these mites.
    Since then I apply water rather sparingly (into the saucer, every second day) I observe a satisfactory growth behaviour:

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    This is already "Mrs. Garfield dimensions" I think. The max. latitude of the biggest leaves is almost 7 cm and the max. length is 40 cm. For comparison this wooden ruler, 30 cm, is included.

  • mariava7
    16 years ago

    Sir Hans...Those are BEAUTIFUL!!! I wonder when I could grow my reticulatums to such state. How big are their bulbs? So far, the reticulatum that shed all of it's leaves IS putting out a new leaf..sighhhh. Thanks for all of your advice. And again thanks for pulling up this thread Soultan.

  • jodik_gw
    16 years ago

    The leaves are quite striking in color and shape! And very impressive in number and health! Just wonderful!

  • soultan
    16 years ago

    Now, I have to order Mrs. Garfield... I will write to Rarebulbs to put up one bulb for me, and I buy it. :o) I will tell the retailer what I want to buy. :o)

  • mariava7
    16 years ago

    Soultan...Mrs. Garfield's leaf is paler than reticulatum but a lot more robust and so far not as fussy as the reticulatum.

  • soultan
    16 years ago

    Interesting... I have no idea why it is not widely available then if it is not really hard to keep...

  • houstonpat
    16 years ago

    I have to think it would be that 99% of the market for Hippeastrum is driven by the nursery and "Big Box" stores that primarily sell them as seasonal blooming bulbs that are normally disgarded after blooming. And, they are possibly harder/not likely to be saleable as "larger" bulbs when compared to the other mass produced bulbs.

  • jodik_gw
    16 years ago

    If it did hit the market, it would be very expensive, I would think... not a chain store item, but more a specialty item sold at garden centers or by specialty tropical plant companies... the longer a plant takes to bloom and the harder it is to grow, the more difficult selling it would be...

    It would be nice if some of the rarer plants were available, even if they were pricey and only available through specialty stores...

  • soultan
    16 years ago

    Most of these rarer plants are available on the net, but they are indeed, very expensive... There is Mrs. Garfield on ebay, but only as a 2-pack. I only want one, so I am waiting for that offer to be put up on ebay, but that would still be $18 for one bulb.

  • mariava7
    16 years ago

    Talking about EXPENSIVE, take a look at this...$60 for a bulb grown in a 3.5" pot...

    Isn't Santa coming to town?

    Here is a link that might be useful: reticulatum

  • soultan
    16 years ago

    Oh yes. Without shipping!

  • houstonpat
    16 years ago

    Yeah, I guess it's all part of operating a for profit business. You are "supposed to" charge what the market will bear. That's why clubs, societies, and forums like this are so important for the typical hobbiest. We are able to go around high costs sometimes. I've stayed in contact with another guy that is growing a nice variegated Papilio with the hopes we'll be able to swap pollen. My variegated pap has yet to produce an offset, and the mother bulb that produced this one hasn't produced any other variegated offsets.

  • jodik_gw
    16 years ago

    It's very nice to be able to share and trade plants and seeds... I've always thought/felt that gardening should be shared, not sold at exorbitant prices!

    Maybe it's just me, but I like to share all my hobbies and interests... the barter system has always worked for me, and I prefer it... Money is truly the root of all evil, and it's never been very important to me... I'd rather be broke and happy than rich and miserable... once you have lots of money, you find that there is never enough, and most people that have money love money the most... not everyone, mind you, but plenty do... my family and friends are worth more than any amount of money, and are most important to me...

  • tasdevil
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    I was the original poster of this thread (over 7 years ago!) and just had to share the news. My amarylis silhouette, aka Hippeastrum reticulatum v.striatifolium, has finally flowered! I've posted a picture - hopefully it works.

    For those interested, the past few years it has been sitting in a north/east window (dappled sun to midmorning then bright indirect light the rest of the day). It dries out well between thorough waterings, moderate house temperature throughout the year with minor seasonal variations. Direct fertilizer was limited although I do frequently water with aquarium water (a good natural fertilizer). The flowering bulb itself is about 3.5" in diameter and has a total of 9 baby bulbs attached around it. All growing together in a 6" pot which is very crowded. Maybe in another 10 years I'll have a flowering clump with multiple blooms! Definitely a plant to test your patience - thank goodness it has the pretty leaves to admire while waiting :)

  • houstonpat
    10 years ago

    Bravo tasdevil. Attached is a photo typical of my clone.
    One point I found to be important to this "species" cultivation: unlike most other Hippeastrum these seem to prefer being allowed to draw themselves down into the soil, maintaining their neck right at ground level. I tried moving mine up to mid bulb several times only to be met with a decline in size and growth.

  • karanb1r
    10 years ago

    I had to login to say,

    WOW one of the most beautiful flowers I have ever seem!!

  • mariava7
    10 years ago

    Old post brings back memories of old friends. Miss ya Soultan!

    Anyway, I have given up on these variegated hippies. Our "relationship" is just not working. LOL My frustration with them was actually the main reason I got into clivias as I imported my very first clivias from China, variegated ones of course. I was hooked the moment I unwrapped them from the box. These ones I will will keep "till death do us part". Ha!
    This is one of my variegated Light of Buddha clivia.

    This post was edited by mariava7 on Tue, Oct 8, 13 at 21:33

  • AuntJemima
    10 years ago

    This is my experience with them and they pretty much match with what is already been said.

    They prefer more gentle light, bit like clivias. I put them out in the sun room and that was a death sentence in a few hours. I live in Scotland and the cooler weather is something they like. They didn't do as well when i had them somewhere warm. They seemed to offset more.

    The necks on mine are really tight and prevents moisture flowing down the neck. The bulbs tend to stay milky white instead of greening up when exposed to light so those reasons make me think it does not mind being buried.

    They are not widely available as the bulbs don't please as easily as the hybrids. They take a while to recover. They are more often for sale potted up as plants than as dry bulbs for this reason in Europe.

    I found them more tolerant to water than my regular hippis. I let some dry out and they didn't like that, I guess I should have known since their roots are much finer.

    When I received them all the leaves were yellow and a member of my family took it upon themselves to drench them with water so that didn't help as they were originally in standard soil. Since then some have greened up and improved a bit. They do much better in our cool weather with lack of sun than everything else I grow.

    This post was edited by AuntJemima on Wed, Oct 16, 13 at 11:23

  • tasdevil
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Sorry for the delayed response - just wanted to say thank you all for the added tips.

    houstonpat - beautiful photo! Interesting point about burying the bulbs deeper. My main bulb is indeed halfway out of the soil, however, all the baby bulbs attached around it are much deeper and fully buried. I don't think there is a way for me to bury the main bulb now without suffocating the babies but it is noteworthy that all the babies are positioned like this fully under the soil (obviously looking like that's how they prefer to grow).

    mariava7 - I had received a regular type clivia division from a friend and it blooms every year without fail - definitely a keeper in my collection! Your photo is tempting me to try a variagated one ;)

    AuntJemima - now that you mention it, most of the offsets that developed were from when I had the plant growing outside in summer (very hot and humid!) and in south facing windows. Since growing in my cooler north window with no outside summer vacation it has barely offset at all. So perhaps a good thing to encourage maturity of the bulbs. And I wholeheartedly agree that these do not seem to grow well from dried bulbs and once the plant got going it has never gone dormant whatsoever.

    Fingers crossed that it's now fairly matured and settled and will become a regular bloomer!

  • snarfie
    10 years ago

    i also have a couple of silhouettes, and mine are making a lot of offsets (last spring it got 4, summer it got 5 and autumn it got 3, and there's another one growing now, lol talking ablout a single bulb)

  • catsandhippies
    6 years ago

    I looked up this old thread because I purchased a H. Silhouette recently on Ebay. It came with lots of healthy roots and three of those gorgeous striped leaves. I only have east and west facing windows, so it is now sitting in an east window in the "second row" where it gets filtered sunlight. It already grew some new roots so it seems to be happy. I didn't bury it very deep. Now I read that it likes to be buried till the neck. Should I add mor potting mix or will it pull down itself?

    What are your Silhouettes are doing? Did they flower regularely after the initial flowering? Do you have any new advices for me growing this beauty?

    My bulb isn't blooming size yet and I'm prepared to wait...

    Anja

  • jstropic (10a)
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Hi Anja, after many, many tries at cultivating this bulb, I have managed to keep my current H. Reticulatum healthy and growing in size (which could change at any second with this picky bulb lol). I bought it over a year ago at a plant sale and it was so healthy looking that I have tried to copy the growing conditions --similar medium ( light, organic fast draining)and buried so that the bulb is barely below the surface, in the hopes I could keep it healthy. It is currently happy in a North window and had roots growing out of the pot so I just repotted it. Can you tell by looking at your bulb hoe deep it had been planted? It should be buried deeper than most other hippeastrum, but since it is growing and it is temperamental I am reluctant to tell you to change anything.

    Good news is it is growing happily, so you have most (if not all) of this bulb's needs met :).

    Mine hasn't shown any desire to flower, but it is beautiful as a houseplant with the white stripe down its leaves.

    I don't know if this helps. - J

  • catsandhippies
    6 years ago

    Thank you Jody! Of course this helps because every information helps :-) Mine is only buried half way but I decided to leave it like this to see if it pulls itself further down as some of my Hippis do. If not I can still add more potting mix. It's in a quite big pot because I read that it likes to make offsets. Mine is an offset too (about the size of a golf ball) and the seller mentioned that the motherbulb has ot yet flowered for him... The leaves are really pretty :-))))

    Anja

  • Fred Biasella
    6 years ago

    I think I've just about given up on these beauties. I have tried everything I know and read, but all they seem to do is sulk or out right die :-((((

  • Stephen Funk
    6 years ago

    What an amazing looking bloom! I must have it! Does anyone know where i can purchase?

  • berkeleysgr8
    6 years ago

    I purchased a H reticulatum from Edens Blooms this past winter. I don't see them on the site now, but I'll bet if you emailed, Aaron & Dove probably still have them available. So far, my bulb is sulking. It definitely has roots. It started to send up a leaf, then stalled out. The bulb is just a little larger than a golf ball.

  • catsandhippies
    6 years ago

    Béatrice, I looked up this old thread again because here you can find something about the experiences other growers made with this beautiful plant. If you put "Silhouette" in the search engine of gardenweb you will find even more but this seemed to be the best and here we can also see the gorgeous blooms.

    Maybe we can write down our expierences here too? At the moment I would only add that it doesn't like cool temperatures. Mine started to rot in fall in an unheated room and is doing much better on a heating pad in a warmer room. It has at least five or six offsets now. The funny thing is that all the offsets grow only on one side of the motherbulb! The upper half of the motherbulb is still above the substrate.

    I'm really curious to see what it will do under your growing conditions!

    Anja

  • frank_hoehnel
    6 years ago

    The seed pod and the seeds of H. reticulatum are very different from other Hippeastrum species.

    I think in other genera such differences would have caused taxonomists to separate it into an own genus. But it is cross-compatible with other Hippeastrums as some seedlings growing in my home prove.

  • JL (Zone 6B MA)
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    hi Frank - wow those blooms are amazing! And the seed pods are so beautiful! Thanks for sharing

  • catsandhippies
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Frank, thank you for sharing your experiences and your beautiful pictures with us! I really hope that mine will flower someday!

    What substrate are you using?

    With which Hippeastrum did you cross you H. Silhouette?

  • mariava7
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    H. reticulatum has now been reclassified as Eusarcops reticulata. The Publication

  • frank_hoehnel
    6 years ago

    Anja,

    i use a peat-based compost mixed with one third pumice.

    No record of the male parent on the label of the seedlings. Have to look in my breeding book.


    My flower gallery
    My flower blog

  • frank_hoehnel
    6 years ago

    Eusarcops reticulata - so we have intergeneric hybrids!

  • dondeldux z6b South Shore Massachusetts
    6 years ago

    Frank,

    Thank you so much for sharing your special website and blog with us!!! Your photos are amazing and beautiful to say the least and I for one, will visit your hippeastrum site often!

    I look forward to new additions!!

    Donna

  • blancawing
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Greetings Frank,

    Your flower gallery and blog are very precious and special gifts.

    Many thanks!

  • catsandhippies
    6 years ago

    Hi Frank, many thanks from me too for sharing your website with us!

    Anja

  • jstropic (10a)
    6 years ago

    I am joining in to thank you for sharing :) Jody

  • Fred Biasella
    6 years ago

    Hi Frank,

    Me 5 :-)))))

  • frank_hoehnel
    6 years ago

    Thank you for your comments about my gallery and blog. But both show a big problem of mine: I am not able to focus on one or two plant familys. My plant collection is a real mess, the spanish phrase "de todo un poco" applies very well. So I am doing many things but nothing properly.

  • catsandhippies
    6 years ago

    As long as you are happy with all your plants... :-)

  • Fred Biasella
    6 years ago

    Frank, you sound exactly me and I can sympathize with "De todo un poco" I actually live my life by that phrase :-)))

  • JL (Zone 6B MA)
    6 years ago

    that phrase made me smile - that's how I am too :)

  • agapanthe64
    6 years ago

    Thank you Anja !!!

    What a good idea , I'll be happy filling this thread.

  • agapanthe64
    6 years ago

    Frank, it's my turn to thank you for sharing your culture experience, it will be very useful, it's a real gift!

    Now I'm going to browse your photo site, Merci !!!

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  • Fred Biasella
    3 years ago

    How spectacular!!!!! Please tell us how you're growing it and where you are.

  • Antonia Chan
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Mine has been growing very well in the past years, blooming more and more frequently in recent years.


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