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ID Pass Along Variety?

sun_worshiper
12 years ago

A neighbor of mine has several hundred orange hippeastrums in their yard - just gorgeous! They were kind enough to share some with me last year, and now mine are blooming. My neighbor doesn't know what kind they are. They are very, very similar to h. striatum. Side by side, I have to look closely to see the differences. They are about the same height, and nearly identical in color. But the striatum seems to be slightly less ruffled, and its petals furl back further.

What do you think? Are my pass along gifts h. striatums? Here are several shots of the no ids:

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And for comparison, here is the one I know for sure to be striatum:

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Guesses?

Angela

Comments (12)

  • dondeldux z6b South Shore Massachusetts
    12 years ago

    Angela,
    Those are really beautiful!! I've never seen an h. straitum picture with the red eye like yours..maybe it's a hybrid of h. straitum. Whatever it is I think I like it better than those without the red eye! Does your neighbor ever let hers set seeds? If so, and you were able to get a few pods, I would like to be on the list to receive a few seeds!! I'm sure someone who knows species much better than I will be able to give you a more accurate ID..very lovely indeed...

    Donna

  • sun_worshiper
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Thanks Donna! My neighbor doesn't let theirs set seed, but I plan to let mine set seeds if they can. I will certainly share seeds with you if any take.

    Angela

  • grant_in_arizona
    12 years ago

    I'm not even going to venture proposing an id, LOL, but I did want to see they're beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing them with us, they're really fun to see. It's nice you and your neighbor are so generous! Thanks for the eye candy. I'm looking forward to hearing what folks say about an ID. Great stuff! Thanks again! Grant

  • dondeldux z6b South Shore Massachusetts
    12 years ago

    Come on you guys, I'm waiting for an ID too!! Where are all the experts when you need them??

  • joshy46013
    12 years ago

    There is a form of H. striatum with a red eye, it's possible it may be that variety.

  • sun_worshiper
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Thanks for the kind words Grant.

    Josh, thanks for the great information! I didn't know that there was a variant of striatum with a red eye. Neat!

    So do you think these would then have a good chance of coming true to type if I can get them to set seed? That would be really cool.

    Also, do species require pollination to set seed? Reason I ask is I had one get knocked over and the stem broke just before its bloom opened. I brought it inside and put it in a vase of water, and it was developed enough to open so I could enjoy it. I got busy and left it sitting there for a bit after it closed, and it seems to be developing a seed pod! I did not make any attempt to pollinate it...but now I'm letting it continue to sit there as an experiment.

  • joshy46013
    12 years ago

    The color breaking in the flower of this species is indicative of virus sadly, IF it is true species it will come true from seed and provide virus free.

    It's possible it's producing seed inside your home but that doesn't mean it wasn't pollinated, a slight movement of air can accomplish that :)

    I hope you get seed! Good Luck!!!

  • sun_worshiper
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Thanks Josh. Can you explain further what the "color breaking" is? Which part of the bloom are you looking at?

    I'll have to read up on hippi virus...most importantly, how does it spread?

    Angela

  • joshy46013
    12 years ago

    Angela,

    The third picture down if you look at the actual flower you'll see white streaks in between the "veins", look towards the bottom where it's especially worse. H. striatum or the Hippeastrum species in the orange clade are especially susceptible to show the symptoms of virus in their flowers. We just had a conversation about this through the International Bulb Society.

    Virus spreads in many ways but primarily through sucking or chewing insects.

    Josh

  • sun_worshiper
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Thanks Josh for pointing out what to look for. After reading your description, I went out and inspected the flowers. Only the ones closest to the one in that 3rd picture show any discoloration. Most of the white spots in the other photos are actually light sparkle. I have a hard time getting my camera to light meter reasonably in high contrast situations.

    One of the things I've learned about gardening in FL is that there is no such thing as "disease free" gardening. There are so many insects & fungal diseases here that gardening is more about disease management - keeping the bad stuff at bay...a continual battle.

    Glad to know that seeds can provide virus free plants!

    Angela

  • sun_worshiper
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    I was able to get a number of seed pods to ripen - hurray! It seems much easier to get seeds to ripen on in ground plants than potted ones. I have had a 100% failure rate with potted seed pods setting. But about 50% success on outdoor plants.

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