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A couple mystery blooms

I have a mystery. Both these are repeat bloomers for 3 and 2 years...and they aren't at all what they weren't labeled. Any ideas to their ID? Stripey is creamy-yellow. Reddish-orange has a nice white picotee edge (it is a bit droopey after getting creamed by a pot of Best Seller!). I won't even tell you want they were labeled or who was selling them until we get some ideas on ID...will bring a smile or laugh to some on the list. I think many of us got the reddish-orange...
Thanks,
Kristi

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