Donna to answer your questions No I wont be going into opposition to mick at this time as I still have many things to learn about growing hippeastrums and being able to do twin scaling to increase stocks . That does not mean that I will not be selling individual plants to some people. The reason that I have not used papillio in any of my crosses as yet is I did not have it but now I do and when it flowers I will do some crosses with it Regards and happy growing Danny