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Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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Posted by betonklotz (My Page) on Sat, Nov 7, 09 at 8:23
| Hi,
I'm new to this forum and just wanted to make a short introduction to myself. I'm a university student in the north-east of Germany and the little space my shared flat has to offer is taken over by my Hippeastrum plants (and a few other ones). I started crossing by pollinating my regular white one with my parent's red one when I was still living with them. From that on I fell into these splendid plants and even though my windowsill space is overcrowded I'm still ordering new ones. I just wanted to show you a snapshot of my plants before they moved in their winter residence ;)
On top there's my cross (I guess it's something like 'Christmas Gift' x 'Royal Velvet') from May 2007, I hope they're ready to bloom!
The unlabled is 'Sydney', in the black pot there's (you might have guessed it) 'Minerva'
And I wanted to ask you a question regarding my H. reticulatum: I got it via Ebay from Thailand and it hasn't moved since a month. Here are two pictures:
Fungus on the base plate
Bulb at the moment in a honey jar ...
What can I do to make it advance? I've raised the temperature in my room but still it doesn't to anything ... |
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RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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| I think I would wash off the mold, then coat the damp basal plate liberally with captan or what ever garden fungicide you might have or find available. I would then let it air dry for 2 or 3 days, then plant it in a medium that does not retain water. Try to keep the moisture level just below the base of the bulb so it has to put out roots to reach the water. |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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- Posted by jodik 5 Central IL (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 7, 09 at 11:42
| Welcome to the forum! We're so glad to have you join us! :-) By now, I'm sure you know my feelings on mediums, so I won't go there. I will tell you how I would have handled the bulb in question, though. I would have cleaned off the basal plate, and dusted it with an anti-fungal powder. Then, I would have planted it in a small clay pot with a porous medium. (Those are just my preferences, however.) Some bulbs simply take a while to get moving above the soil line, and will spend time growing a good root system first. I can't see the sides of the glass container in the photograph, so I'm not sure what the roots look like... they may be growing into their new home, and this may be where the bulb is putting its energy right now. It also could be that the bulb is resting. I have a tiny Hadeco Peach Blossom bulb that rested for an entire year before deciding to grow its first leaf. It currently has two beautiful green leaves, but it took forever to get growing! I almost gave up on it! Other than being patient, I'm not sure what you can do to hurry it along. I assume it's being fed? In which case, I'd say, just be patient... if it has decent roots, it should begin growing soon. The bulb, itself, looks healthy... and if the fungus is taken care of, then it's only a matter of time before leaves appear. This type of question is more Maria's field... or perhaps another of our esteemed, more experienced growers can help... anyone? Again... welcome! Stick around... the forum is about to get busy and very colorful, as members begin to show their newest bulbs and lovely blooms! |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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| Ohhhhh.... a young "Sir Hans" to be!!! Welcome! In my experience with these retics, if you acquire them at this season (cold) like your pictured one, no leaves and roots, they will take a while to show growth (leaves). This does not mean that they are not developing though. I did the very same thing last year and acquired some of these bulbs. They did nothing for me the whole winter but their bulbs stayed healthy and firm. They would grow some roots now but would grow leaves when the temperature gets warmer and the air more humid (spring). Once they are established and grown for a season, they will be fine and will handle the cold dry winter months better. My established reticulatums are actually still awake and growing leaves right now. I would recommend very careful watering at this stage of your reticulatum bulb and try to keep in the warmest place in your growing area. Water a little bit more and fertilize once leaf growth shows. Reticulatums here in my growing conditions like lesser watering (dry-ish roots)but humid conditions (some moisture in leaves...slight misting helps). Kinda hard to provide in the Northern climate but not impossible. Good luck!!! By the way, you have a very good amaryllis forum in Germany named "Exoten"(?). I tried to go and join them there once but had a hard time translating. I have a few German amaryllis friends that are members there. It would have been nice to chat with them in their amaryllis "home". If ever you get to visit that forum, please send my warmest "hello" to Hans Werner (moderator) and "Fishing Dentist". Your hippeastrums are looking healthy and clean and so ready to go to their winter sleep. Good job!!! |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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"Ohhhhh.... a young "Sir Hans" to be!!!" Oh, please no! I woudn't want to compete with haweha! ;) I'm actually a member of the Exotenforum, but I coudn't get a satisfying answer there jet. I have no idea who this "Fishing Dentist" could be, does he have an other nicname? Right, so i'll keep the temperature up (it'll cost me a more to heat the room up to ~20+°C, but should be better for myself too ... I tend to heat as little as possible) I'll keep an eye out for fungicides, but I'm always a bit wary with chemicals. I grow most of my Hippeastrums in the room I'm also sleeping and working in. Till now I never had to use any kind of pesticides ... I've been checking these forums for some time now and did often see some varieties here I didn't knew of before. I try to approach the care of my plants with a more scientific point of view. I'm also doing lots of botany at the university (at the moment genetics, so my own crosses also serve to reconstruct Mendel's Laws ;) ) Thanks for the nice welcome and the quick replies! I have a lot of pictures of my blooms from this year, if you're interested? |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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- Posted by jodik 5 Central IL (My Page) on
Sun, Nov 8, 09 at 9:07
| A cost effective way to keep the heat concentrated where you need it... a heating pad for plants. Bottom heat usually helps with root growth, seed germination, and a myriad of other plant issues. I keep a heating pad ready for use with seeds, cuttings, rooting, and twin scaling of bulbs. I bought mine for about $24 at Harbor Freight, but anywhere that sells seed starting equipment should have them. And, yes! We're always interested in seeing bloom pictures! Please do share! :-) |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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| Place that sells seed starting equipment? Meh, I guess my chances aren't high getting one here. I'd rather search for a seller online. Orange Sovereign in the bright afternoon light. Sadly the glitter didn't really made it on the photograph. I got this Minerva bulblet from someone on the Exotenforum. This double, I guess it was Nymph, was sent to me instead of Picotee. I don't like doubles at all, so I gave it away. The seller now sent me a replacement, hope that one turns out to be Picotee. Sydney is my favourite red-striped one. My biggest bulb, it produced 11 leaves. I hope there will be more next year! It produced 3 scrapes! Here's a closeup. I guess my favorite breed is Amputo. My 3 bulbs sit in one container an seemed to like it, One did produce 2 scrapes. Also in a big community-pot, the small, multiple-flowering Supreme Garden. I especially like the green star in the center. Those pots are actual hanging baskets, they're more or less a half sphere and work quite well for multiple bulbs. |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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| Hey! It is so wonderful to see you here, and yes, betonkloz is translated to Concrete Block and my dear friend has been sharing private messages with me for a few years on the German forum. Carl, I am so pleased that you have joined this forum! Sooner or later, I will have more time to talk to you. I just received the news that my mother is dieing from pancreatic cancer. She is too ill from complications to let her know that. It is so very wonderful to see you here! I am sort of at a loss of words because of the other things in my life, but I am excited that you are here. Thank you, Thank You, Thank YOU! Stay and enjoy! Your English is superb! Ann |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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Oh Ann, Don't you think that's one or two "thank you"s too much? Do I really deserve 3? ;) Thanks for the compliments on my English, I have to say that I owe it to Hollywood, hehehe. ;) I'm sorry to hear about your mother, I guess you've got a lot of things on your mind but plants and I'll sure keep you in my mind. I hope you're holding up well and I wish you all the best! |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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| So you are "Carl". NIce to know you! I spent some time in Germany a couple of years ago and enjoyed it so very much. My dad's family came from there long ago and it was an ancestoral memory trip for me. What area of Germany are you in? I enjoyed your photographs and what you are doing with your amaryllis! Keep up the good work and I hope to see you chatting with us often! I started out on this list 3 years ago and now I have around 150 amaryllis and 60 seedlings I am raising. THere would be many more but I work on the plan of survival of the fittest. My goal is raising flowers for my cut flower business, a very small local one. |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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| Carl! You deserve more than three, and I am sorry not to be able to visit your German forum as often. I miss that. I guess that we all have to go through periods of our lives, where we feel that everything is out of our control. But, somehow, we survive! It brings a smile to my face that you joined gardenweb and decided to contribute. SO! YES! You deserve three thanks and many more! Now, tell us more about your Amputo seedlings. I am curious because the translation from German to English on your home forum left me at a loss... Ann |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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| Ann, so sorry to hear about your Mom. Carl, nice bulb that you have. And did I understand correctly that you have Amputo seedlings? That's one bulb I wasn't able to successfully cross. What did you cross it with? (and welcome, by the way) Alana |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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| Ann, Sorry to hear about your mum. I wish you a lot of strengh in this difficult time. Carl, i looove your flower pictures. Simply gorgeous! |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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@Lily: I'm native of the Ruhr Area, but I'm now studying in Greifswald at the Baltic Sea. A friend of mine who's from Minnesota now studies in Greifswald. His ancestors are also part from Germany. I'd love to cultivate that amount of Hippeastrums, but I have no possibility to grow them outside since the cold and wet period is way to long to take them inside. @Ann: Nothing special here. I didn't succeed in pollinating the Amputo with the varieties I wanted to cross. It was the last to flower and I didn't preserve most of the other pollen. Luckily the Sydney emerged the third scrape at that time and was happy to receive the Amputo pollen! Of my Amputo x Sydney cross none of the seeds germinated. But I did sent some to "ty" from the Exotenforum and at his a few of the seeds did. My Sydney x Ampute seedlings are doing fine but are the smallest. Here are my crosses from this year, "weiße" is a friend's unnamed white one, which had very fine red lining (I guess because of the good feeding):
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RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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- Posted by jodik 5 Central IL (My Page) on
Sun, Nov 8, 09 at 21:39
| Ann, I'm so sorry to hear about your mother... your family is in my prayers. I nursed my own mother through leukemia, so I have a bit of insight... many hugs, and many prayers. Carl, the heating pads I have were purchased along with seed starting flats. They came with a clear plastic cover, like a mini-greenhouse for seed germination. I imagine you could find one where ever plant and garden supplies are sold. The pad is the exact size of a flat, and I find them perfect for helping roots to grow, or for rooting cuttings, and for seed starting. Any source of mild bottom heat would work, as long as it's not too warm, I think. The heating pads are rather convenient, though, and I'm glad I found them. |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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On the German forum there are some people who use these, I'll ask them where they got them. I do live in a small-town, the range of articles available here is quite thin. Especially something with such a specific purpose will be hard to find here in the local hardware store (I don't know what would be the correct translation that gives you a good idea on what those stores sell. They're usually pretty big and sell everything for DIY-work, like construction and carpentry.) Their gardening sections are usually poorly equipped. |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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- Posted by jodik 5 Central IL (My Page) on
Mon, Nov 9, 09 at 8:06
| I live in a small town, too... the nearest larger retail shopping area is about a 20 minute drive, which we make once a month or so, for supplies. Here, the smaller stores that cater to do-it-yourself projects would be called "Hardware Stores", and the larger DIY stores would be termed "Home Improvement Centers". Poorly equipped garden sections are a problem here, too. If I can't find what I'm looking for at one of the stores, I usually look it up online. I don't like paying the shipping charges, but I suppose it can be worth it when it comes to the convenience of having things delivered right to my door! Last winter, we set up a large seed starting area in the basement. I wanted at least one table to have a bottom heat source for starting picky seeds and some of the seedlings we had ordered, but I couldn't afford to buy a large table sized professional heating mat, like the ones used by large commercial greenhouse growers. So, we used a rigid heating mat designed for use in pig breeding operations. (I'm not sure what the right name for that would be.) It's a large orange plastic item with heat coils running through it, and we attached it to a thermostat so we could adjust the heat. It worked out very well for our application, I'm happy to say. I think a heat mat designed for reptile tanks might work, as well... as long as the heat can be adjusted, and it's not too warm. Interestingly enough, items from farming and/or the pet industry can be utilized in gardening, and be just what we need! Take the fir bark reptile bedding that I use as part of my medium mix... who would have thought that reptile bedding would be exactly what I needed? I certainly didn't! Anyway, I wish you luck in locating a small heating pad... I will say that I'm glad I found one for my own use... it really seems to help with coaxing root growth in reluctant bulbs, and for seed germination. |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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| You seem to be somewhat creative in finding the right place to look for the things you need. I tend to not having a clue where to start my search ;) |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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- Posted by jodik 5 Central IL (My Page) on
Mon, Nov 9, 09 at 20:04
| Well, I've probably just been lucky... I've had the opportunity to be involved with many different areas of life... such as dairy farming, canine breeding, greenhouse and garden center work, semi driving from coast to coast... just to name a few. So, I've sort of learned that you have to think in many different terms when you're looking for something special. Probably the easiest way to locate something unusual is to Google it... and then see where the results take you. Or, if you are at all handy, you could devise your own plant heat mat from one used for people... simply make sure you can adjust the heat, and make certain that a bit of moisture won't hurt it. The pharmacy and health industry will have heating pads... and I even think that some can be used as moist heat... although, I'm not sure of what temperature range one of those pads would have... they surely have a low setting, though. Or, you could devise a buffer between the actual pad and the bottom of the pots or flat. All it takes is a little bit of imagination, and a real need for the item in question! :-) |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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Thursday I planted my newly ordered bulbs into a 1 part perlite to 2 parts fir bark -mix The fir bark is exactly the same reptilian bedding that Jodik's using (says big on the bag "the #1 selling reptilian bark" ... as well in Germany as in America I guess!). First thing I noticed with the new substrate is that it doesn't have water-holding capacities comparable to cocofibre. I poured 4 liters of warm water into the pot and nearly everything flowed out. Well, let's see how well this'll work once the plants are established (the bulbs had really few roots, but I'm happy about the porous medium now, since I had to cut a bit deeper into one of the bulb's necks to get the red parts out (how is this fungus called in English?)) |
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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- Posted by jodik 5 Central IL (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 21, 09 at 8:46
| I believe the fungus is called Fusarium, or red blotch? The pine bark will hold a certain amount of moisture, but you will have to water more often than if you use a more water retentive medium. You can soak the pine chips over night, and then drain them, before mixing into medium, but it's not entirely necessary. You will also want to feed a weak solution of liquid fertilizer often, too. I feed at about half, or less, strength every time I water. The nice thing is that you have total control over all moisture and feed. There will be little to no soil collapse, so the medium will last a long time. If you want more moisture retention, you can add turface or vermiculite to your mix... these are both more retentive than just the perlite and pine bark. Here's a website on Bonsai that discusses the different ingredients of inorganic mediums... it also lists the different brand names for other countries, so you may find something you can utilize. Read the entire page... it has listings and pictures of product packaging from almost every country around the world, including Germany. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Bonsai Basics - Cat Litter as Bonsai Soil
RE: Greetings and question regarding H. reticulatum
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Those heaters for waterbeds are perfect for plants. I've got a couple that I scored free from people getting rid of water beds. Great pics, thanks for sharing. Tally HO! |
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- Posted by jodik 5 Central IL (My Page) on
Sat, Nov 21, 09 at 11:33
| I never thought of that, Tally... good suggestion! And they're rather large, too, right? So, you could bottom heat a lot of seed flats, or seedlings, or cuttings, etc... That's a really great idea! Necessity is the mother of invention, they say! |
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