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| One of our pups bloomed just a few weeks ago here at the University of Washington Botany Greenhouse.
I donated the original bulb to them during my freshman or sophmore year and it has done outstandingly well! I love this species and I hope you all do as well!! Enjoy!
Cheers, Riz |
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| Lovely I must get one soon. ARIF |
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| Just gorgeous! |
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- Posted by Irish_rose_grower z7 LI NY (maureenpm00@hotmail.com) on Fri, Dec 16, 05 at 8:36
| Wow, that really is stunning! I notice that the bulb is almost completely out of the soil. I'm new to hippeastrum and thought the bulb should be at least 1/2 in the potting mix? |
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- Posted by Creeping_Fig z6 PA (My Page) on Fri, Dec 16, 05 at 19:46
| Great pictures. The plant looks really healthy. Just out of curiosity, do you remember where you originally purchased your papilio from? CF |
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| That is lovely! I got one this year and I'm praying its true to name. Thanks for the picture! Lora |
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| That's really something, the color and pattern and shape are all perfect. It's amazing something like that just blooms away on it's own in the jungle and has been doing that for hundreds of years before someone found it and took it home! |
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I estimate H.papilio to be the best of all Hippeastrum species. |
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- Posted by Wildcat_IN_Z5 z5b IN (My Page) on Sat, Dec 17, 05 at 4:05
| Haweha, Wow! That PapDonAmb #4 of yours is incredible!!! Wildcat |
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- Posted by AznGrnThumbs Zone 7/8 PNW (My Page) on Sat, Dec 17, 05 at 17:46
| Great hybrid there! It has really inherited the shape of H. papilio. The papilio from the UW Greenhouse is planted so just the basal plate sits on top of the soil medium. I've always been told to pot up this species in this way to help discourage rot. With the basal plate near the surface, it can dry out quicker after watering. The original bulb was purchased through Brent and Becky's Bulbs or Wayside Gardens, I can't remember for sure. I'm glad you enjoyed the photos and I'd like to thank our friend from Germany for posting another lovely clone of papilio and his lovely hybrid. The breeding being done with this species has produced some amazing results!! Cheers, Riz |
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| lovely hybrid. I hope the papilio I recrive this time is a true papilio. ARIF |
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| I hope you have ordered more than one of this species amaryllis', Arif, they are not the most reliable bloomers in....ummmmh.... pot-prisonship pardon... confinement *ggg* I would NOT count on flowers shortly after planting; and some bulbs need more than one season. I am now experimenting on the significance of the pot dimension (the soil quantity) and I try to explore the potential benefit of bigger pots. I replanted three of my 30+ bulbs, with their 1 to 3 attached-untouched offsets - into cubic 11 Liter pots....with square soucoupes notabene....for watering from below. H.papilio is apt to produce enormous quantities of roots - rapidly! Therefore I HAVE chosen this amaryllis in order to reveal the advantages of a veritably "oversized " pot *ggg* And furthermore these roots are more stable than those of the most tetraploid Hippeastrum hybrids. On the other hand - in the light of this observation - it seems funny but it is at it is and it is relevant: Hans-Werner PapDonAmb#1 |
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| Hello Hans-Werner Out of thr two only one has bloomed.Is selfing succesfull. I have polinated many let us see if they take. here is the bloom. ARIF |
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| Hans, what is the parentage of your PapDonAmb#1? Also, when you say something like red lion x picotee, is the first name the pollen donor, or the pollen recipient? TIA. Plant_Guy BTW, outstanding flower, that one, let me know if you feel like getting rid of any :) |
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| what is the... Well that means that I have caught you - Hans-Werner |
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| Well, Hans, I must admit *cough* *cough* that I have not been on the bulb forum for over 2 years. I was starting a new business after the company I worked for (10 years) moved their software development division to India. See the link below, it is my company, just a little over 2 years on the Web. Anyway, your posts are very informative. I really like some of your crosses much more than commercial cultivars. Plant_Guy |
Here is a link that might be useful: My Day Job
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| Thank you, plant_guy: I wish you all the best for your firm! I like uncommon proportions, and I have the vision that the most spectacular proportion is what would strongly accent the already inherent feature of hippeastrum flowers: The principal zygomorphism, |
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| Hello Here today gone day after tomorrow.That is my PAPILIO. No other Hippeastrum of mine has such a short life of flower. Is it the nature of Papilo or our 37 C temperature. The flower is INTERESTING,has a WILED look, apprecciated by a few. I am sure cross breeding will produce interesting results. The secound day.Dont ask about the stamens. |
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| That is correct; H.papilio flowers are very transient I hope that you pollinate(d) all flowers in due time. |
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| Hi Hans-Werner There were only two flowers. Both pods are looking healthy and so are some of the pollen recipients. I hope I am lucky. ARIF |
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| Excellent photo. Brig. Arif by any chance did you obtain your bulbs from Royal Colors in Holland ? I wish I could visit you to see your collection in bloom. |
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| Hello Deepak Yes this PAPILIO is from ROYAL COLORS.The majority of my collection are my own production I call them my mongrels. I do have some known varietes too. You are welcome to visit in last week of MARCH or first week of APRIL when they are in bloom. ARIF |
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| Hi Arif: I read elsewhere that generally H.papilio does efficiently produce seeds after self pollination. Hans-Werner |
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| Hello Hans-Werner My 2nd bulb has no intention of blooming if it does I will self it . The PAPILIO pollen was rejected out-right by most.Some which seemed to have accepted it, have produced small pods.I will let you know the rsult on maturity. I pollinated the PAPILIO with a white, the pods are growing fast, as you can see. |
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| Oh thank you Arif - I am looking at this picture with one smiling and one weeping eye (ooops that is the German terminology) - you certainly understand that I want to express my mixed emotions in view of well-developing H.papilio seed pods - after the flowers have been fertilized with pollen from tetraploids - and finally the so-well-stuffed seed pods reveal chaff, only chaff; more then 100 big & worthless seeds per pod. So you are pre-warned. But, IF you WILL be finally fortunate despite my experience-based pessimistic preview - WELL then you should praise the karma and send me some of these seeds in order to corriger MA fortune... BEST wishes |
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| Hello Hans-Werner I have not yet seen a pod grow to full size stuffed with chaff only. My PAP pods are still smiling. An other few days and I would know. ARIF |
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| Hello all, .. and of course I did try it again. Jaap |
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| Hello All Hans- Werner GURU JI my weeping eye has taken over the smiling eye. The pods did not grow any further.The pods produced mostly chaf. There are some distorted seeds which feel as if there is an embryo. Tomorrow I will float them and see if any germinate ARIF |
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| Although I could to a certain degree predict the unfortunate outcome of these crossbreeding experiments I am so sorrowfull with you. As far as I can see is crossbreeding H.papilio with these "old" hard-core-bargain big blooming hybrids simply impossible. And I would try to supply pollen from DONAU (Danube) when H.papilio is close to bloom. However, IF you receive a mountain of chaff - DO NOT discard it before you dids not investigate seed-for-seed, thoroughly, for any may-be-viable embryo... Hans-Werner |
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| Hello Hans-Werner Any seed that had a hint of an embryo is floating in the bowl. Another two weeks and I would get the answer and report. ARIF |
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| Hi REPORTING A COMPLETE FAILURE ARIF |
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