Return to the Asian Vegetables Forum | Post a Follow-Up

 o
Can you translate?

Posted by zeedman 5_Great Lakes (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 17, 07 at 1:11

I received some seeds in trade, in their original packaging. I can identify their species (except for the fuzzy gourd) but am trying to find out their variety names (or the English phonetic equivalent). Since I am interested in saving seed, I would also like to know if they are hybrids. Can anyone help me out?

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
2 Bitter melons, package front
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
2 Bitter melons, package backs

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
2 Gourds, package fronts
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
2 Gourds, package backs

I have grown the bitter melons & luffa before, but not the fuzzy gourd. Any growing tips, or recipes, would be greatly appreciated.


Follow-Up Postings:

 o
RE: Can you translate?

All four packs of seeds are hybrids. They are done in Chinese companies.
The left bitter melon name is: Jiang Meng Da Ding (the packet says the original seed is from Tiland)
The right bitter melon: Yu Feng You Lu (F1)
Hairy gourd: Guang Dong Qi Xing (F1). You can grow them as regular gourds or cucumber. The vines are long, need support. Loves water and sun. Cook it as radish or zuccini in the soup.
Luffa: Bai Sha #5
All names are after chinese city. All package indicates not good for seed saving since they are hybrids.

New gardener


 o
RE: Can you translate?

Those are hybrids.


 o
RE: Can you translate?

I am revisiting this thread, because for several years I have been trying to de-hybridize one of the bitter melons that was originally posted above. The process has gone well, and I will be growing it again this year.

However, the original bitter melon photos that I posted above have disappeared, so I don't know whether the one I am growing is Jiang Meng Da Ding or Yu Feng You Lu. The new photo is posted below - can someone translate?

Photobucket

This is a photo of the last crop. I have been selecting for length & yield. Many of these bitter melons were 10-12 inches long.
Photobucket


 o
RE: Can you translate?

Zeedmsn,

Curious as where you bought the seeds as the pack seem to be authentic Chinese? As far as the translation, it'll cost you a few seeds for next year :D, he he...

The top of the pic, right hand side of the seed pack is the brand name, Wu Feng You (first 3 characters)followed by the description "green bitter melon".

The right hand side of the pic, bottom of the seed pack says "Hybridized by the bitter melon agriculture organization specialist of Wu Shan"

The bottom of the pic, left hand side of the pack:
Big Fruit, Productive, and if you eat it will protect your health.

Traditional Chinese will say that the bitter melon will reduce your inside heat (opposite of chili pepper) and help remove poisons from your body.

Good luck Zeedman, hope our crazy WI weather this year cooperates.

John


 o
RE: Can you translate?

Darn, I was hoping this bitter melon had a variety name. I have been working for several years to de-hybridize it, and had planned to share seed under a modification of its original name.

The seeds were sent to me several years ago by a trader in the S.F. Bay area, along with another bitter melon which I have yet to grow (it has short, top-shaped fruit), and several Chinese edible gourds. It was a good trade.

And John, as a fellow Wisconsinite, you are more than welcome to some seed. :-) Just contact me through the email link on my Member Page.


 o Post a Follow-Up

Please Note: Only registered members are able to post messages to this forum.

    If you are a member, please log in.

    If you aren't yet a member, join now!


Return to the Asian Vegetables Forum

Information about Posting

  • You must be logged in to post a message. Once you are logged in, a posting window will appear at the bottom of the messages. If you are not a member, please register for an account.
  • Posting is a two-step process. Once you have composed your message, you will be taken to the preview page. You will then have a chance to review your post, make changes and upload photos.
  • After posting your message, you may need to refresh the forum page in order to see it.
  • Before posting copyrighted material, please read about Copyright and Fair Use.
  • We have a strict no-advertising policy!
  • If you would like to practice posting or uploading photos, please visit our Test forum.
  • If you need assistance, please Contact Us and we will be happy to help.


Learn more about in-text links on this page here