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Fuyu Persimmons

Posted by az_pamperedchef 9B (My Page) on
Thu, Apr 8, 10 at 11:47

I bought a fuyu persimmon tree from Home Depot in January and transplanted in my yard. It's now April and there are NO buds or leaves on it! It doesn't appear dried out, it's in the south side of my yard and gets watered about 1x a week.

Should I be worried or is it typically to not leaf or bud by now. This is my second attempt at this type of tree, the last one definitely dried out.


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RE: Fuyu Persimmons

From what I know of persimmons, 1x per week of watering is not enough this time of year. They like a lot of water early in the spring to start growth. Also, first year on Asian fruit trees I've had some really late start of growth. My tamarind didn't start budding until May last year after going in the ground the previous November and losing all it's leaves in January. Once it started, growth was explosive. The tree nearly doubled in height and width last year and didn't experience any leaf drop this winter. It's just now starting to bud this year. Best of luck.


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Thanks kojac_phx. I'll increase my watering for both my persimmon and Asian pear. Neither has buds yet, so hope springs eternal!


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If you want to know if the trees are still alive, use your fingernail and lightly scratch off a bit of the bark. If you see green, they are still alive. If you see brown, they are dead and will not bud (hope you kept your receipt).


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Both my Asian Pear & Fuyu Persimmon are still green when I scratch greenthumbjeff, just not budding. I have increased the water to 2x a week and am optimistic they'll be abundant! :-) I had about 6 small pears from last year, but the persimmon is it's first year in the ground. I'll keep everyone posted.


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They're alive! That's good news :)

The budding problem is most likely a chilling hour issue. That means the trees aren't getting enough cold time during the winter. The Fuyu persimmon only needs 100-200 hours, so that should not be a problem in Arizona. Although I do wonder where the tree originated from and when it was dug up and potted.

Asian pears tend to have higher chilling hour requirements and also tend to bud later in the spring. Do you know which variety you have?


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greenthumbjeff,

I'm happy to report I was out this evening checking the variety of Asian Pear, which is Chojuro, and found 3 small leaf clusters! I'm very happy. Nothing to report on the persimmon yet and I checked this afternoon, but if the pear is doing what it's supposed to, then the persimmon should too, right? LOL.


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Jeff,

update on trees: Fuyu, still nothing. It seems some of the smaller limbs are brittle, the main "trunk" is still green and flexible. However, I'm afraid it's on the way down. :-(

The Asian Pear still has the same 3 small clusters, but it appears healthy. Like I said before, hope springs eternal!


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These updates are fun to read. Good luck with both trees, keep us posted.

Take care,
Grant


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Glad you're enjoying them Grant. Unfortunately, it appears the Fuyu persimmon is not making it. I'm very sad as this is my second attempt to grow a Fuyu persimmon. But I refuse to give up!


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I am sorry to hear about your Fuyu. I had the same issue going on. Everything started budding and growing leaves EXCEPT my fuyu. I finally pulled it this weekend and discovered that there was a tiny green shoot under the roots, but overall the entire plant had died. The roots didn't take and well, I took her out of the ground. I went to a local nursery here in Tucson and bought one that wasn't a bareroot but ready to plant in the ground. This one is doing well, but I have been watering it every 3 days or so.


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Rohrerbot- Neither of my two attempts have been bareroot, so I'm not sure what is going on. I've been watering it still, but nothing is happening. I wish you the best with yours!


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Soth side of house is gonna put too much sun on persimmon. Need morning sun only first few years. Put up a shade cloth. Water once a week on a drip, approx 4-5 gallons for that size tree


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Update on my Fuyu persimmon: it has been laid to rest! I am not giving up however. I have placed an order with Baker's for 1 Fuyu & 1 Giant Fuyu (bareroot). Should be in in January. Any suggestions? I will be more attentive to watering them which I think was the problem. My Asian pear made it through the summer but did not produce any fruit due to not enough H2O.


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I am so glad that you posted this. One of the trees that I want to try is a persimmon. I am thinking a Fuyu or a Izu. Every bit of info helps. I have a spot on the North side of an Ironwood tree where I can protect it from the hot Summer sun and yet it will still be able to get some sun, so hopefully this will be a happy place for a Persimmon.

I also bought an Asian pear this past Spring. It is a dwarf that has 4 Asian pear types grafted to it. I have it on the East side of my house and on a watering system where it was watered 3X a week at around 8 to 10 gph for 40 minutes each time this past summer. It came through the hot weather very healthy and even had about a dozen pears on it except the birds have gotten most of them (so I just bought some bird netting.)


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I'm chiming in too late, but this happened to me with my Fuyu. After literally months, I complained to the nursery who sold me the tree, and they gave me a new one. I went out to pull out the old and plant the new--and the old one was budding. I felt like an idiot returning the new one, mumbling I guess it wasn't dead after all.


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Well, good news (I think) my Asian Pear is full of leaves, but absolutely NO blossoms. I don't think anything is happening this year.

I did get my Baker's order. Received only a Giant Fuyu. I've been more attentive to it, but was still scared because nothing has been happening. Welllll, yesterday I noticed it's about to bud! I feel like such a proud parent now.

I'll take a picture later and post.


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I had gotten a bare root Izu Persimmon this Spring and have been going through the same thing. It was still green on the trunk so I was being patient. Finally, Friday, I noticed that the leaf buds were starting to turn green. Now, they are ready to leaf out.
Mine is planted on the North side of an Ironwood tree.

Now, my only bare root tree that has not leafed out is a Sherwood Jujube. The trunk is still green so I have my fingers crossed.

Good luck with your persimmons.


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Thanks Agility Mom! Mine is/will be in full sun so I'll need to take measures to protect it this summer. I just don't know what to think of my Asian Pear tree. I'll keep trying.


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An update on the Fuyu Persimmon saga. The old tree died. :-( However, I did get a replacement a year ago from Baker Nursery. It seems very happy & healthy. Here are a couple of pictures.

March 2012
Giant Fuyu Persimmon ~ March '12

November 2011
Photobucket


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Your persimmon looks great.I am wondering how long shoots it has now, but it is okay, becaue you are in zone 9 :-) my persimmons are still dormant, in zone 6b.


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Well, I am so happy. I just noticed this week the Giant Fuyu has blossoms! I wasn't sure what they were at first so I looked up persimmon blossoms on the Internet and lo and behold, they look like what I have! The tree is now 2 years old and almost 6' high at the tallest branch. As usual I don't have a photo as I don't know where my hubby put the camera. :-) But I will post in the next few days.


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Great news, AZpamperedchef! We'll want updates all the time, and pics when possible. Fun stuff! Hope you get tons of fruit! Keep us posted! Happy gardening!


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Finally found the camera! I was able to put the photos side by side so everyone could see how much the tree has grown! I will next post a photo of the fruit


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This is the fruit, first year fruiting! I have lost about half of the fruit. I guess the tree is self-pruning. You can see one of the dried leaves without the fruit next to the viable one.

Does anyone have any idea what the black spots are at the end of the leaf? They get that every year and the leaves don't typically get wet. They're wet in the photo because I gave my trees a washing, they were so dusty!


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