I feel like a broken record - lady banks roses.

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There's a 5' chain link fence behind them 'thar roses.

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Pardon the messy yard, we've built a deck around the hot tub and put in gardens with those straw wattles since then. And that black 'trellis' is covered in jasmine that is in bloom.

Mary - who's off to that hot tub now to relieve an aching back from a bad office chair event yesterday.

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Hi, The lady banks does good on hot walls, but they do cover it, making it hard to get to the wall for repairs, without cutting alot off..I like the trellis idea, as you can make that pretty tall. Plus the shade would be an added benefit to the privacy. Even going with Banks, they could then grow up and over, making a cool arbor underneath. We are hotter (yep, it's possible) down here in the lower desert, and they held up wonderfully. Once you can shade the roots of other plants, you could have a lovely garden under there..

bamboo maybe?

I like the lady banks and have seriously considered it, but I was under the impression from alot of other posts that it gets very heavy. I'm not opposed to taking an electric hedge trimmer to it once a month either though if that's enough to keep it in check, but i don't want to shell out too much for a super-strong trellis. that's why i was thinking more along the lines of morning glorys as they get thick but they don't get woody and heavy. or maybe this doesn't matter? I'm really not sure just how sturdy my trellis would need to be, but I don't want to have to rebuild it every few seasons either. Also, i forgot to mention that the vines would be planted on the east side of the fence, so the roots will be protected in shade all day.

this is what i was thinking for the trellis, only a bit taller and wire/vines across only the top third:

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Yeah, the lady banks would be too heavy for that. What about bower vine? It's pretty hardy, I *think* it's evergreen...queens' wreath, although that one is deciduous. The yellow bells and/or orange bells, honeysuckle.....or go annual, put something different spring or fall....that can get to be a lot of work though.

Ahhhh, clematis?

Bower vine is very pretty with either white or pink blooms. It's evergreen and although I lost all my snail vines to frost, it didn't blink. I can also recommend Hall's honeysuckle for the same reasons.

Green timber bamboo

What if we decided to plant tall shrubs and train them as trees instead? Does anyone have any suggestions on what to use? I know bougainvillea would do very well in this spot, but due to the high winds on that side of the property i think the bracts would become a pain to clean up all the time. Is there anything else will less litter (besides oleanders) that would grow just as quickly and nicely as bougainvillea? I'm considering ficus benjamina for this as well because the trunks can be trained in interesting ways, same as the bougainvillea "trees"...

You might look at thevtia, it's a cousin to oleander, not noxious as far as I know, and can be trained into a pretty tree.

Here is a link that might be useful: Thevtia

Thevetia peruviana is beautiful, but it is highly toxic.