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sorry, there isn't a single plant in this post, but I thought the other AZ gardeners would enjoy these photos of a quail nest in my backyard!
I think she's in the middle of laying the clutch because she left yesterday afternoon but came back last night to brood. I'm trying to figure out how to screen this part of the yard off from the dogs without freaking out the quail and causing her to abandon the nest. . . |
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- Posted by mangledmind 9B (My Page) on Thu, May 20, 10 at 14:41
| Cool zzini .... we found a clutch in our front planter, by accident, when pulling some old flowers and weeds. We disturbed it while cleaning and momma never came back. :( |
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| When my son was 5 years old, my Mother had a nest of quail eggs left as orphans because Momma was eaten by a predator of some kind. My Mom gathered those eggs up and brought an old electric skillet outside, lined with layers of towels, turned it on warm and put the eggs inside. My Dad laughed and told her it would never work. But when pecking holes appeared, she called me and I pulled my son out of kindergarten to witness the event. She hatched 10 quail eggs in an electric skillet!! I just buried my Mom this past week. In her eulogy, I told this story and thanked her for teaching us to love all things great and small. Do whatever you can to help those babies hatch and include a youngster in the lesson. You will be remembered for it!! |
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- Posted by lazygardens PhxAZ: Sunset 13 (My Page) on Fri, May 21, 10 at 10:16
| I never thought an overturned bucket would be used. I build all kinds of brush piles they ignored. There are plenty of eggs there, and I'm seeing baby quail around here, so you might not have long to worry about the nest. |
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| @arizonny - that's just beautiful, unfortunately the only youngsters I have around here are of the canine variety so I'm busy trying NOT to include them! Here's my barricade. . . a friend at Game and Fish told me to try and keep the area as disturbance-free as possible:
as you can see, the dogs are excavating what looks like a hole for an Olympic-sized pool next to the potted saguaro, hopefully they'll ignore the furniture in the middle of their construction site!! |
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- Posted by mangledmind (My Page) on Fri, May 21, 10 at 16:12
| zzini "construction site" ... too funny |
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- Posted by softmentor z9/sunset13 CA deser (My Page) on Mon, May 24, 10 at 18:36
| we TOTALLY want pics of the little ones when they hatch! |
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- Posted by grant_in_arizona USDA Z9 Scottsdale, (My Page) on Mon, May 24, 10 at 19:45
| Great pics, zzini, keep us posted. Great story, too, Arizonny, thanks for sharing it. I've let several containers (usually on plant pedestals) die over the years after finding quail eggs (and/or the quail) in them and refusing to water them while someone is on the nest. I happily trade the plants for a batch of those babies. I even posted here several years ago asking about the jumping height of the babies since one pot was on a tall-to-me pedestal, but I was reassured that mom knows not to put the nest too high for the babies and it all worked out great. I've had similar "problems" with mourning doves in pots too and I always just avoid messing with things until the babies are gone. I've had a lot of dead plants that way, LOL. Nice to hear other softies out there. :) I'm always a nervous wreck when dealing with nests, LOL. Do keep the pics, stories, and updates coming. Good luck! Take care, |
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| OK, so I had two close calls with the dogs - little sneaks were scooting under the chairs to sniff around the bucket and scare the bejeezus out of mama quail. I dragged them inside and waited for hours until she finally came back. I re-fortified my barricade and now my husband and I are taking shifts to supervise the dog peeing! Sheesh, I'm a nervous wreck too, Grant! then I read something horrifying about fire ants swarming and eating baby quail! I can't have that happen on my watch so I've been meticulously powdering all the suspicious-looking ant hills with DE. She's wedged herself towards the back of the pail but I'm going to try and get a couple of pics tomorrow morning. |
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- Posted by grant_in_arizona USDA Z9 Scottsdale, (My Page) on Wed, May 26, 10 at 18:57
| LOL, I'm glad I'm not the only one who is a nervous wreck when there are nests or babies around. I had quail lay eggs in my kiva at my last garden and I had to "open" up a ring of raised concrete that surrounded the kiva(from an old water fountain) so that the babies could get out of the penned in area. They jumped out of the kiva fine but then were circling in a "pen" made from the too-tall curved concrete. Momma quail was going crazy, LOL. After several hours of watching them try to jump I just made an opening and all the babies ran out to join mom. Of course, I then had to leave the side gate open for several hours so mom and dad and babies could get out of the back yard. I'm sweating right now just thinking about it all, LOL. Continued success with yours and definitely post any pics you can get. Take care, |
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OK, here is the updated barricade (O-Ren proof, I think . . .)
and a rather grainy picture of mom on the nest.
Trying not to alarm her, I crawled behind one of the tables, which are about 6 feet from the bucket, and stuck the lens of my camera thru the gap in tables to get the shot. I'll not be making National Geographic with my photography skills anytime soon! She seemed mildly interested but not in the least concerned. I do hope I'm around when the babies make their appearance - I guess they skedaddle as soon as everyone is de-shelled and on their feet so I may miss it. |
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- Posted by lazygardens PhxAZ: Sunset 13 (My Page) on Wed, May 26, 10 at 22:18
| They skedaddle within a few minutes and never come back. They all hatch within a short time, and as soon as the last to hatch is dried and fluffy they are moving to a fresh location. Any late-hatching chick is abandoned. |
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| LOL! I just had a vision of myself with an abandoned, late-hatching chick (slightly confused) perched in my lap - careening in my FJ cruiser at 100 mph down Power Rd to the Game and Fish office. . . shrieking "get me a Wildlife Manager - STAT!!!" sometimes I crack myself up. |
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- Posted by lazygardens PhxAZ: Sunset 13 (My Page) on Fri, May 28, 10 at 0:49
| zzini - If that happens, you can treat them much like chicks to keep them alive. They can join a quail family later, because quail are tolerant of mixed broods. |
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- Posted by mangledmind (My Page) on Fri, May 28, 10 at 9:19
| zzini you are a riot ... LOL ;) |
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- Posted by xica_da_silva (My Page) on Fri, May 28, 10 at 15:03
| Awwww...too cute. I hope you are lucky enough to get pix of the babies and share! |
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- Posted by grant_in_arizona USDA Z9 Scottsdale, (My Page) on Fri, May 28, 10 at 17:52
| Very funny Zzini! LOL You know a few years ago I posted here on GW about a single tardy party baby quail I found while on a run. I ended up setting up an enclosure and heat lamp blah blah blah by my bedside and raised the goofy thing (on poultry feed and then crickets and poultry feed) until it was large enough to fend for itself. After the few weeks I raised it it hung out in the back yard for a week or so and then just wandered off, which was perfect for me, LOL. In any case, look at this horrible discovery I made yesterday! Yes, a single quail egg on one of my big patio containers. UGH. I hope it was/is a dud rather than the beginnings of a nest. I'm already stressed just thinking about it, LOL. I'll just leave it alone for now of course and see what happens. Surprise!
Love the momma pic you shared by the way, keep the updates coming! Take care, |
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- Posted by xica_da_silva (My Page) on Fri, May 28, 10 at 18:17
| Wow...that's so funny, Grant! This is getting to be like an Easter egg hunt. I better go out and look around in my yard and see if I have any(I wish)! Anyhow, I couldn't tell too much from the 'mama' picture, but are we talking about Gambel's quail or some other variety? I didn't see the characteristic 'coxcomb' but maybe it's only males who have that? Hmmmm... |
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| Xica, these are your garden-variety Gambel's Quail. both males and females have the "top knot" but, of course, the males have a much larger one. sorry for the photo quality. . . my little digital camera was pushed to its limits. the top of mom's head is concealed under the bucket rim. |
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- Posted by sparklynnrose Tempe / 8ish (My Page) on Wed, Jun 2, 10 at 15:57
| Awwww!! We had a brood in one of our porch pots a couple years ago. One day there was all sorts of frantic peeping out there, but every time we opened the door it was quiet, and the nest was empty. We had NO idea what was going on. Fortunately my stepson stopped by, and apparently he approached the door quietly enough to go unnoticed. The peeping continued and he discovered the problem: The nesting pot was just a nursery container, so I had placed it inside a larger decorative pot. The baby quail had all gone over the side of the smaller pot and gotten stuck in the larger one. The outer pot sloped inward and the nursery pot didn't fit quite all the way in the bottom, so there was basically a ring of tiny quail, one quail high, wedged into the "corner" where the two pots met. It was shadowy enough out there that we hadn't been able to see them. With relief we removed the nursery pot and tipped the big pot on its side. Amidst much rejoicing, a dozen baby quail streamed out into the bushes, where they were quickly rounded up by the parents, who were still lurking. That was a good day. :) |
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- Posted by grant_in_arizona USDA Z9 Scottsdale, (My Page) on Wed, Jun 2, 10 at 23:43
| Cute story, sparklynrose--that DOES sound like a good day. :) The one egg I found (pic above) was either a dud or the mom decided I spend too much time in the garden, LOL, as it was the only one. Keep the updates and stories coming. Quail really are adorable aren't they? Take care, |
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| well, she's gone and, I hope, out in the desert with a big brood! Except for two eggs that didn't hatch. I was horrified when I first noticed, because my dog, Toro was out by the bucket, but I realized that he was eating empty egg shells. . . I was terrified that he had eaten all the eggs (or babies - eek!) but realized that there was not enough carnage there for it to be a legitimate quail-icide scene: the bucket was not turned over, there was no blood, not enough feathers to suggest any mutilation. Just the two unhatched eggs, which had been moved out of the nest but were untouched by Toro. Yeah, maybe I'm overanalyzing the crime scene to make myself feel better for not keeping a closer eye on the dog. . . but after a decade of reading police reports and homicide investigations, I just can't help myself!! :-) |
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- Posted by mangledmind AZ 9B (My Page) on Thu, Jun 3, 10 at 12:11
| zzini, You should be on CSI. LOL |
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- Posted by nogreenthumbteacher (My Page) on Sat, Jul 10, 10 at 10:17
| We have just found 9 quail eggs in our planter in AZ. It is July 10th. Is this a normal time? Afraid for them! |
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- Posted by lazygardens PhxAZ: Sunset 13 (My Page) on Sat, Jul 10, 10 at 13:34
| NoGreen - It might be a second brood. It could also be an abandoned clutch that's been fermenting since May. Keep an eye on it. If they are not hatched by August 15, they aren't going to hatch. |
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- Posted by lazygardens PhxAZ: Sunset 13 (My Page) on Sun, Jul 11, 10 at 12:03
| I saw a new hatch yesterday; 7 babies still in the dandlion sized fluffy stage. |
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| I live in Mesa, AZ. My husband found about a dozen eggs in some ornamental grass he was tearing down in our front yard. Sure looks like gambel quail eggs! We put them in a box. We don't know what to do as it gets up to 115 here???? Help!!!! I have 3 girls and they are already naming them... P.S. I loved reading all your stories. I will post pictures of mine soon! |
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| What are you doing with the eggs? Perhaps you should have left them where they were!? All of these posters live in the valley where it gets 115°. Quail obviously do just fine in those temps. If you don't have to interfere with Mother Nature, please don't. |
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- Posted by lazygardens PhxAZ: Sunset 13 (My Page) on Mon, Jul 12, 10 at 11:17
| caryk ... the right thing to do when you uncover a nest of quail eggs is to stop whatever you were doing and leave them alone. The hens lay one egg a day until the clutch is compl;ete, then they start incubating. They hatch in 30 days, usually less, so check once a week for 5 weeks and if they are unhatched they are dead. Put them BACK where you found them, arrange some shade if your husband wrecked the grass the quail was nesting in and the hen might come back and finish incubating. The chicks MIGHT make it. Otherwise, explain to your girls that the eggs aren't going to hatch because daddy and mommy made a mistake and explain to them that baby wild animals and birds are best left alone. |
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| Sorry, I did not give enough details. My husband was tearing down some ornamental grass in our front yard. Two weekends ago, he tore it just about down to nothing (maybe about 6-12 inches) when it was about 5 feet tall. He decided to finished uprooting the grass the next weekend. He has been hacking that with a hoe for a long time. I'm surprised not all the eggs are cracked! Well, when he went to finish the job is when he found the eggs. There was no leaving them there since he was just about done digging up all the roots by the time he discovered them. He first found some cracked ones so we all examined them. One had just yolk in it. Another had a little chick in it---obviously dead. The rest are still intact. We assume that the mom abandoned them as my husband tore down the protective covering (without knowing it) the week before. We would have left them there if there was something to leave them there with. It is by the street and we already ripped apart their home (completely) and discovered it in the grassy mess. I could have reassembled it all and left it there, but it was grass. Not like I could have made the grass stand up again! I don't think you understand unless you would have seen it. I am actually on here for advice, no need to tell me what I should have done. So, for those of you who care to be nice to me: we now have them in a shoebox with the grass below it to protect it. We read that they should be at 99 degrees. It is getting up to 110-115 here so we figure the shade is best. At night we are putting them in the garage since it stays around 100 all night there. It gets to about 90 outside at night. We also read that the mom turns them so the yolk doesn't stick to the egg so my daughter is turning them once a day. Who knows? They may all be dead, but maybe not? |
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| Who knows - altho I'm sure your husband feels guilty, it's just the way things happen around here. I really wouldn't feel too badly about it - quail and dove can put nests in THE most inappropriate places and us humans can't always be on the watch for every single one of them. All that being said, they probably won't hatch without the proper (and consistent) temp of mom sitting on top. Please don't beat yourself up about it - it's the desert, life is very harsh for the various species that inhabit it and worse things happen!! :-) This can be a good learning experience for your daughter and, if they don't hatch and aren't broken, the insides will eventually dry out and you'll have some very pretty quail egg shells. |
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- Posted by Vicki R ~ in Arizona ~ 86401(Angelpoems@aol.com) onFri, Jun 10, 11 at 8:55
| Hello. I was excited to see your post. I have a momma quail that has nested under my hose holder. We put a cut small cardboard box around it as she kept running off when we entered our front door. Does anyone know how long she can be off her eggs? Seems like she leaves for hours and then back to sit. Too, no daddy has been noticed... is this normal in some cases? Have loved reading all your posts, learned a lot! Thank you!! Vicki |
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- Posted by grant_in_arizona USDA Z9 Scottsdale A (My Page) on Fri, Jun 10, 11 at 18:49
| Yup, it's that time of year again: quail nesting season! I love/hate it, LOL. I have one in a deeeeeeeep pot planted with portulacaria by my front door, and another in a pot with a palm tree and tons of asparagus ferns in the back yard. I can't get away, LOL. I did put in a little rock stairway in the one pot where the soil line is super low compared to the pot edge, so the babies can climb up/out rather than be trapped. I did it when the mom was off the nest. I don't have any scientific information for you, but I do know that the mother birds often leave the eggs for what seems like a long time and everything works out fine. They don't even sit on them that much until they've laid them all, so that they all get in synch and hatch in the same day or so, but even after that she spends a fair bit of time away. There's usually a dad quail around. I'm glad that most of the quail eggs hatch in 3 or 4 weeks so I don't have to deal with this too long, LOL. The first week or so I keep forgetting they're there and they spook me (and vice versa!), but now I'm trying to remember to stay away when I can. Plus I'm going to have houseguests soon and I hope the "nest" out front is long empty by then, a month away. The babies are awfully cute though, as are the big fat parents! Take care all of you softies out there (me included, grrr), |
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- Posted by angelpoems none (My Page) on Sat, Jun 11, 11 at 9:07
| Grant, Thanks for your reply!! I'm doing my best to leave her alone and hope all goes well. I worry about the neighborhood cats,... ours being one of them. So far I don't believe they've discovered her. Happy Saturday to you!! Vicki R ~ in Arizona ~ |
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| Hi, I'm new to posting here, but I have been learning a great deal from various threads on this forum. Thank you! Does anyone know if a coyote finding a quail's nest will scare off the momma quail such that she doesn't come back? I just frightened a coyote off my back patio, but not before he had eaten one or two of the eggs. There are 8 or 9 eggs left in the nest, so it doesn't look like it was a full clutch yet, so maybe there is hope the parents will return??? I haven't touched the nest, now I am just trying to figure out how to prevent the coyotes from making a return visit while still allowing access for the quail. If anyone has any insight, I'd be most grateful! Andrea P.S. I have appreciated reading, and learning from, **ALL** the posts on this thread. Thank you to everybody for sharing your experiences, especially the folks for whom it was more of a "cycle of life" kind of lesson, because those are really important too! Thank you. |
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| Good News! Yesterday, I built a little chicken wire fence all the way around the bushes the Quail are nesting in, and cut-out little 5-6 inch spaces at the bottom of the fence every so often so Quail can get in, but coyotes cannot, and voila... ...This morning the momma Quail was setting her eggs again! I'm so happy - I wanted to share with all of you (in case you wanted to know what happened!) |
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- Posted by grant_in_arizona USDA Z9 Scottsdale A (My Page) on Mon, Jun 13, 11 at 19:45
| Fun update AndiQs! Glad everything worked out. Hopefully the rest of the eggs and babies will make it. Thanks for the update. As cute as the parents and the babies are, I'll be glad when they're hatched and gone, the stress is killing me, LOL. :) Take care all you quail lovers, |
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- Posted by Ally(ampiazzoni@live.com) onSat, Jul 9, 11 at 17:01
| I literally just got home and my mom was out watering plants and she saw my dog get a bird. It flew away, but there were feathers everywhere. I was looking for the bird in case it was in our backyard, but instead my mom found a nest where the dog got the bird. They are definitely quail eggs, but I don't know what to do about them! I won't let them die, but I was told you aren't supposed to disturb the nest. What should I do? There are 4 eggs in the little nest and one rolled out and is a few inches away from the nest. Any suggestions/help is welcome! |
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| We have a clutch of 9 quail eggs outside our house and it appears that the mom has been gone for 2 days. Is that normal? Do you think the eggs are still viable? I am wondering if I should get a heat lamp for them. We are in Lake Havasu where the temperature drops quite a bit at night so I am concerned they are not warm without their mom. Thanks! |
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