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I need ideas for Successive ripening avocado and atemoya trees...

Posted by troys123 az (My Page) on
Fri, Jun 19, 09 at 15:19

I intend to order these from Florida plant these in the fall ( currently digging out my hard caliche soil) and my goal is to plant trees with different ripening dates. I want 3-4 different vaieties of avocadoes
and 3-4 varieties of atemoyas in one hole. Please give me ideas as far as varieties that will help me accomplish my goal. I am in west phoenix (Tolleson). I will plant in NE SIDE of my house behind my Mesquite tree and near my house for protection
Does anyone out there have experience doing this?
Ant tips / shortcuts will help. All appreciated. Thanks

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RE: I need ideas for Successive ripening avocado and atemoya tree

Shortcut: When the trees arrive, place them directly into the compost heap.

Seriously, neither tree will thrive in the Phoenix area, and they don't set fruit much.

If you are really determined, go talk to the Tropical tree nursery guy on Baseline and buy from him. His stuff at least has a bit of a chance.

RE: I need ideas for Successive ripening avocado and atemoya tree

For avocados, make sure you get one of the following varieties grafted onto Lula rootstock:

Brogdon, Day, Lula, Choquette, Marcus, Winter Mexican. Avocados grafted onto the mexican rootstocks they use in California will have little chance of surviving here.

For the atemoya, 48-26 and gefner will both set fruit but will need frost protection and shade cloth the first summer.

RE: I need ideas for Successive ripening avocado and atemoya tree

If you have not done this yet attend the next ARFG meeting and talk to Doug.

RE: I need ideas for Successive ripening avocado and atemoya tree

My tip is to not plant avacados, especially if you are doing this with the expectation that they will fruit. I am currently nursing one along outside on the north side of my house, under 50% shade cloth. It is not doing well. Avacados don't seem to do well in our rocky soil, high temps, lack of humidity, and saline water.

Figs and citrus can sure do well here though.


RE: I need ideas for Successive ripening avocado and atemoya tree

Avocado will grow here with a combination of good soil, mulch, shade first few years, and not overwatering. I dug down 40 inches to get out the Az soil. Growing from seed is the best way to succeed. I know of a few people here that have multiple 30 foot trees that fruit.

RE: I need ideas for Successive ripening avocado and atemoya tree

Here ya' go. This will lead you to more info than you ever needed.
Be aware that harvest season will vary from area to area. Generally, Mexican varieties are earlier than the others and more hearty against frost.
also be sure to get both A and B flowers for best pollination.
You may also want to consider ordering locally or from CA instead of FL, since they are growing varieties and grafting on root stocks that are better adapted to our soil and climate in the west. FL's humid climate does better with different choices.

Here's my 3 choices
Name - flavor - oil content - season - size - flower type - parentage - temperature hardness.

Mexicola Good Purple 20% Sept. to Nov. 4- 8 oz Type A Mexican Very Hardy to 20F

Stewart VeryGood Purple 18% Oct. to Dec. 6-12 oz Type A Mexican Very Hardy to 24F

Jim VeryGood Green 18% Nov. to Feb. 8-12 oz Type B Mostly Mexican Very Hardy to 24F

PS a good way to deal with TRUE caliche, is to use pool acid and let it soak in then peal back that layer. Learned that trick from my geology professor.

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