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'Desert Museum' and 'Sonoran Emerald' Palo Verdes

Posted by dlg421 z9 AZ (My Page) on
Mon, Oct 9, 06 at 18:52

The last thread on these two trees was about a year ago so I thought I would ask if anyone has either or both and could offer current opinions on them.

Also if you know what nurseries carry them (15 gallon), that would be helpful.

Thanks.


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RE: 'Desert Museum' and 'Sonoran Emerald' Palo Verdes

I bought a Desert Museum and it has doubled in size in a year and I love it. Very easy to grow. They have them atTreeland on Arizona Ave and also(a lot cheaper) at A and P Nursery on Baseline and 101. Couldn't decide if I should buy another to replace my blown -over Mesquite or a Sissoo. I decided to try the Sissoo and spent today getting it planted. Hope it does as well as the DM has...
Treeland has every tree you ever heard of.


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RE: 'Desert Museum' and 'Sonoran Emerald' Palo Verdes

We just got our beautiful Desert Museum PV from Summer Winds in N. Phoenix today-- it is GORGEOUS. (I took this forums advice and skipped Moon Valley). Thanks, Lazygardens for the recommendation! I don't think I've ever been this excited about a tree in my life! It was like Christmas. Of course, it was like Christmas because we splurged on a 36" tree, since we've been told how slow-growing palo verdes are. But they had plenty of smaller trees and 15 gallon Desert Museums. I was going to get a Foothills but glad we got this one, instead. It is a huge, full tree with such emerald leaves and trunk and we've already had birds sitting in it. Looks like it has been growing there for years- doesn't have the telltale bad pruning job, either. I was VERY happy with how Summer Winds handled everything... the supervisor stayed throughout the whole planting, they were all very polite and raked the gravel back over and everything before they left. I will definitely use them again. Oh- I also got an 8' bare root ocotillo from them for $50- it's one of the fullest ocotillos I've seen. I just can't say enough about this nursery.

Amy


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RE: 'Desert Museum' and 'Sonoran Emerald' Palo Verdes

azrangeramy, did they plant the ocotillo for you too? That sounds like a great price!


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RE: 'Desert Museum' and 'Sonoran Emerald' Palo Verdes

Both the popular thornless Palo Verde hybrids are great trees, each with its own individual differences. The Desert Museum was the first hybrid introduced and is a medium green color, fast growing to about 25' x 25', has small leaflets which create a fine textured look. It blooms with large yellow flowers in the spring.

The Sonoran Emerald sports more of a blue-green color to its bark and leaves. Also a fast growing tree it produces a bit more shade that the DM because its canopy is slightly more dense. It's leaves are a bit longer and this gives it a little more graceful look. In April it is covered with typical yellow flowers.

Neither tree produces many seed pods.

There are several other palo verde hybrids being grown locally but these are the two which are easiest to find at local nurseries.


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RE: 'Desert Museum' and 'Sonoran Emerald' Palo Verdes

Thanks to those who have responded. Any other input ( from long term owners) on these two trees would be appreciated. At this time it seems that Baker Nursery is the only one that has the 15 gallon Sonoran Emerald available. What are opinions on Bakers?


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RE: 'Desert Museum' and 'Sonoran Emerald' Palo Verdes

I am also considering the desert museum. How would wide does it get? I'm considering planting it on the edge of my patio about 3 ft from the boundary wall of our backyard and I'm just curious how it would do in that location size wise and also having its roots under paving.


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RE: 'Desert Museum' and 'Sonoran Emerald' Palo Verdes

The Sonoran Emerald is grown locally by Arizona Wholesale Growers, 623-581-3100 (wholesale only). If you go to your favorite nursery, they should be able to order this tree for you. I have purchased 15 gallon Sonoran Emeralds at Treeland on Country Club south of Guadalupe Rd. in Mesa.

Here is a link that might be useful: Treeland Nurseries


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I purchased a Sonoran Emerald at Baker's 3 yrs ago in a 15 gal pot. It was probably about 5-6 ft tall at the time. It is now about 20 ft tall with a canopy diameter of 30 ft. and is an elegant and beautiful tree. One of my favorite things about this tree is its tidy growth habit. I have only done a little pruning to it and it looks great. I have a huge palo brea in my front yard (also from Bakers 5 yrs ago) and it's a great tree but has a very tangled growth habit and needs to be pruned often.

I have very good luck with Bakers. They were ranked the top nursery in the US for "customer information" by a nurseryman's magazine last year. If they don't have something, they can usually get it for you.

Going back outside to sit under the Sonoran Emerald (tonight I'll be sitting out under the Palo Brea drinking margaritas with friends - it's one of our favorite things to do as the tree and my front fence have formed an enclosed area where I have table, chairs and lanterns in the branches.)


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How fast does the sonoran Emerald grow? Why does this board recommend not using Moon Valley nursery. I' will be buying some trees soon and would like to know what is the best nursery in the Phoenix area.


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RE: 'Desert Museum' and 'Sonoran Emerald' Palo Verdes

Terrizoo,

The posts above give names of several nurseries in the Phoenix area, all of which are good. As far as Moon Valley goes, there is a whole thread about this nursery and the issues patrons have had with them. Just do a search from the main Arizona gardening page.

As far as how rapidly the Sonoran Emerald grows....it grows fast. I planted one from a 15 gallon container three years ago and it is now 20 feet wide and tall. I water it deeply once a month in the summer and less often in the winter.

Keep in mind that fast is not always a good thing for trees. Fast can mean weak - as in the case of mesquites. In general the slower a tree grows the stronger the wood - like oak trees whose wood is very dense and strong.

Here is a link to Arizona Wholesale Growers web site. The photo on their home page is the Sonoran Emerald in bloom.

Here is a link that might be useful: Sonoran Emerald


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I did purchase the Sonoran Emerald from Baker's in October 2006. At that time Baker's had the best looking trees in stock. My tree has more than doubled in size during that time and is very pretty. Only minimal pruning is necessary to give it the proper shape.


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Go for the smaller trees. They grow into bigger more healthier trees than the big ones. Something about being in a pot too long stunts their growth long term.


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