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Moso vs Giant Japanese Timber

Posted by vancleaveterry 8/9 (My Page) on
Mon, Feb 11, 08 at 20:05

Phyllostachys heterocycla f. pubescens "Moso" verses Phyllostachys bambusoides "Giant Japanese Timber Bamboo".... If a person already has one [Moso in my case] is there any reason to have the other?

Can someone contrast the two for me?

Terry
MS coast


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RE: Moso vs Giant Japanese Timber

I think there's always a reason for 'another' bamboo.

Moso is a stronger-culmed bamboo and will probably get a bit larger, but takes longer to mature and reach large size. It is a more delicate looking bamboo. Giant Japanese Timber breaks easily when covered in snow(I'm told). It doesn't do very well down here, but Moso does.

Kt


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RE: Moso vs Giant Japanese Timber

Madake is a lot more cold hardy than Moso here in Tennessee...a lot better choice for zone 7.


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RE: Moso vs Giant Japanese Timber

Kentuck in TX.... You say that "Giant Japanese Timber breaks easily when covered in snow(I'm told). It doesn't do very well down here, but Moso does."

Why do you suppose it doesn't do well in TX? Not snow problems I imagine?

Angela in TN... thanks also


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RE: Moso vs Giant Japanese Timber

No snow problems here, that's for sure, but I'm not sure why it doesn't do well. I planted both P. bambusoides aka GIANT JAPANESE TIMBER and P. bambusoides 'Castillon' here and both have struggled.

They both started good the first couple of years, then they slowly regressed and I have a hard time just keeping them going by Summer's end.

My guess would be that they don't like the high heat, which especially during the years they really did bad, was extremely high for this area, 100+F. I think in cooler Summer regions they both would do better.

Moso does great but is very slow to reach large size. Henon, Bory, Nigra, and Tonkin Cane are a few other runners that do really well here, although the Nigra and the Tonkin Cane like it somewhat shady.

Good Luck

Kt


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RE: Moso vs Giant Japanese Timber

  • Posted by bboy z8 WA USA (My Page) on
    Sat, Feb 16, 08 at 3:19

P. vivax has thin walls and breaks under snow. P. bambusoides has thick walls. I haven't seen it break. P. vivax is lush and vigorous, with large leaves. P. bambusoides gets full of aphids. Moso is more beautiful than either.


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RE: Moso vs Giant Japanese Timber

I have both growing. The Japanese had about 4 years starting in bathtub. 2 years ago I've diveded and moved to a couple places. Now sprouts get about 14' tall. How long will it to get at least 40'?


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RE: Moso vs Giant Japanese Timber

Hi kentuck_8b, I am also located in TX, I am thinking of get a couple of Moso plants too, but not sure if they are suitable for the local climate (austin area, very hot summer and dry). Do you need to water them during the dry season? Thanks.


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RE: Moso vs Giant Japanese Timber

I've found that moso will curl its leaves if there's high heat with low humidity which rarely occurs up here in upstate NY, but once it reaches a decent size, there should not be any problems growing this plant.

I think the key may be to give it some shade protection until it gets big enough to handle itself. Here's a recent picture of mine.


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