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Honey from poisonous flowers

zsnp
19 years ago

I know that oleanders and azaleas are poisonous. Oleanders

have been used to make rat poison. Their roots, branches, leaves,

flowers, and even their seeds are deadly. But I like

oleanders very much because of their nice flowers.

What happens if a bee collects nectar from a poisonous plant?

What happens if I eat that honey?

Would I die?

Do you know if anyone has ever died from honey?

Comments (12)

  • tarheit
    19 years ago

    Yes, honey from oleander or azalea is poisonous, and yes you could die from it.

    See: http://www.wssa.net/photo&info/other_info/Oleander.htm
    and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey

    Not all harmful plants yield poisonous honey though. Honey from Poison Ivy has no harmful effects for example.

    Poisonous honey does look to be pretty rare based on the info I've seen.

  • treebeard
    19 years ago

    When we first started beekeeping years ago, we were concerned that honey from certain flowering plants might be harmful. Rumor had it that honey from Rhododendrons could be harmful. Our place, at that time, had plenty of Rhodies. A little research into the subject showed us that, yes, honey that came strictly from those kind of plants might have harmful effects, but as those plants were in significant minority among the local flora, the nectar arriving in the hive from the huge variety of flowering plants in the area would, at the very least, dilute any potential poisons. So, we didn't worry beyond that point.

    If you live in an area where the vast preponderance of flowering plants are oleander and azalea, you might have reason to be concerned. But if they're a few among the larger varied majority, there's likely little cause for concern.

  • ccrb1
    19 years ago

    and I understood it was undercured honey from rhodos and azaleas that were the problem, and it went away if the honey was ripe.

  • Sully4
    19 years ago

    Is the nectar harmful to bees and butterflies? I have several oleanders on my deck in the summer and they are always in flower. In Florida they are everywhere. So there must have been research done on whether the nectar is harmful to insects and birds. Anyone know a site where I could check this out?

  • grovespirit_yahoo_com
    14 years ago

    Yes, oleander nectar also harms bees and butterflies. A tenured entomologist and beekeeper from Univ of TX who showed up at the beekeepers meeting of Central TX to lecture to us about toxic oleander nectar's negative effects on hives of cultivated and wild bees. For more info you could probably contact Univ of TX at Austin's entomology dept.

    The oleander plants can be pollinated and the oleander nectar is harvested by the insects just fine since it is a dilute toxin. But once it gets into hives the toxin gets concentrated because the bees dry out the nectar by fanning it with their wings. And then, when they feed the concentrated nectar (honey) to the young bees, the concentrated toxins from the TOXIC oleander nectar die, and the hive dies.

    And the toxin from oleanders can also make butterflies and hummingbirds ill, if oleanders are a main source of nectar for any one butterfly or bird.

  • beekeeper961
    14 years ago

    Don't worry about them collecting nectar from Azaleas because they won't. Also watch out for yellow jasmine that produces poisonous honey. Happy Beekeeping! -Alex

  • eukofios
    11 years ago

    Even though this is an old thread, thanks to those who posted. I am starting a hive and have some of these plants on my property. Last summer I planted an oleander. Fortunately, it is small. I have dug it up and will destroy it. I also have an azalea which looks like it's on its last legs, so probably wont be a problem. Rhodies, a few.

    Now I'm a little concerned - I have a buckeye. It looks like the species to look out for is 'California buckeye', which is not what mine is. They are mentioned in the URL below.

    I also read that Japanese Pieris can be toxic. I have that, too.

    I have a feeling that as long as there are lots of other nectar sources, a few of these wont be a problem.

    Here is a link that might be useful: plants with toxic nectar

  • mattyb1
    9 years ago

    We have lots of Oleanders on our property, that bloom almost year round, and we have never seen a single bee foraging on them. We live on an extremely dry native sage brush canyon and during late summer/fall the nectar flow is very low but still, they refuse to go to Oleander.

  • dbarron
    9 years ago

    As a general rule, nature's critters are smarter than we give them credit for.

  • Kevin Stansfield
    7 years ago

    I'm no doctor, nor a poison expert. But I am familiar with the consumption of the nectar located at the bottom of the pistols protruding from the flower. As a child I knee the plant was poisonous, but doubted the nectar was, I consumed many times as well as other flowers, never got sick.

    The Oleander ...

  • Sophia Worthman
    5 years ago

    Can anybody tell me what an azalea plant can do to a bee

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