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Gunnera Support Group?

Posted by akebono 6/7 (My Page) on
Tue, Jul 24, 01 at 15:06

Against the odds (heat and humidity in Mid-Atlantic area), I am attempting to grow this holy grail of freaky-big plants. They are less than a foot tall (I've only had them for 2 weeks), and in big pots for now.

I'd like to try one at the edge of a downsloping woodland to keep it cool, but that puts them at risk of being deer food.

In addition to any and all help in growing these creatures, how would you all rate them for deer resistance? One would think they'd be unappealing due to the texture of the leaves, but then again, rose branches seem unappealing, too!

Thanks for any and all help, folks!


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where can I purchase gunnera seeds or plants: online? by mail-order?


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I think Heronswood in Washington has them. They have a website, and online ordering.


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You can also try Weird Dude's Plant Zoo. It is located outside of Staunton, Virginia!

Here is a link that might be useful: Weird Dudes's Plant Zoo


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Spring Hill also sells them. I ordered one last year and they sent a big beautiful root clump. I put it in a nice sunny spot with alot of peatmoss ammended rich dirt and shaded them with oak logs. They did well...well sort of. For sprouts, I guess. Then I killed them. Don't do this: I added lime to the surrounding lawn. Bad mistake. Gunnera likes acid soil and the lime killed it completely in less than a week even though I didn't put lime directly on the gunnera planting area. I was dissapointed.


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  • Posted by bobel z6 NWNJ (My Page) on
    Tue, Nov 20, 01 at 0:00

Anyone had success in z 6 overwintering?? Looks like a neat plant for my wet meadow edge. Local source for purchase?


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I have 1 small ( 2.5 ft x 3 ft) gunnera manicata planted on Sept 11th (easy to remember date) 3 larger leaves died off, and several more have started..including 1 dense hearty one from the crown.
I am looking for some overwintering advice..I have been gradually adding organic mulch to the crown and building up around the base of it as the temperature is gradually dropping (no freezes yet)..I believe that in cold winters a 1-2 ft mulch over the entire crown may save it through spring. Any comments on keeping my leaves green? (the ones on it now are still quite hearty)


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  • Posted by Bob_R z6 Ontario (My Page) on
    Tue, Nov 27, 01 at 23:29

About overwintering a Gunnera manicata:
this year I'm trying straw bale protection. To prevent animals from making a home out of it, and a meal out of the plant's crown, I've made a cylindrical enclosure out of heavy wire mesh (with a flat top). This enclosure fits over the plant with room to spare, and is pushed a couple of inches into the soil; (I intend to put a thin closed-cell foam sheet loosely over the enclosure to act as an insulating umbrella). When hard frost hits, the straw bales will be stacked around and over this enclosure.
Good luck to you all with your efforts! Bob


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Hi,
I live in Victoria,British Columbia [about 70 miles NW of Seattle]. Obviously a coastal rain forest climate. Our local city hall has one huge gunnera as its main focal point in its water garden. This plant is basically in a pool and lives in on an island surrounded by sandbags. In the summer its individual leaves are 5 feet across. THis plant needs wet feet and lots of nutrients. I have threatended my wife that I want one when we put in her water garden later this spring...for shade purposes, naturally!


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Well...I have thrown in the overwintering towel..despite my eforts, (including various mulch treatments and 2 home-style cold frame additions) my gunnera has lost its leaves. It now sits trim and tidy beneath a 4 inch pine mulch awaiting spring's promise. So much for knowing it all.. let the giant have a season off!


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Don't despair, JeffreyOR. These plants are NOT evergreen anyway. I've read that the first growth in the spring is often bit by frost (Christopher Lloyd's Foliage Gardens book), but that the plant usually (wish I could say always!) sends up many more leaves anyway.

I don't think it's light frost that kills them--only a more sustained hard freeze. Mine are doing OK in their pots in the unheated cellar, and have even retained a leaf each. Obviously waiting for a bit more warmth and light to really get going, I trust.

I'm glad to see that folks still reply to this not-at-all new post. I'll be sharing my experiences as they get planted outdoors. I think I've determined where they will go. It's a spot that is curiously coolish in summer, yet seems to be a very protected place in the winter (judging by some roses that I dug very hastily (couldn't be avoided) last fall, potted, and left in this spot. To my delight, the roses have even retained their foliage), and they will be planted just outside a cellar window, so I can build whatever I need to for winter protection.

While I am very excited about getting them to thrive in my garden, I know it's against many odds. That's part of the fun of it, after all. It certainly got me busy determining where my microclimates are!


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  • Posted by Bob_R z6 Ontario (My Page) on
    Sat, Feb 9, 02 at 0:28

Akebono, I'll take photos this April as I strip protective layers from my one plant. I'll follow your example and post the images. Maybe I'll even invite some gardening friends over to share the suspense of the grand 'unveiling'! Bob


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I live in Graham, Washington. I have a gunnera plant that I purchased in Orting, WA. It is doing fine without any over wintering despite having had a couple snow days. Where I purchased it, the gardener had maintain the plants in a tub of water about six inches deep and under a plastic car canopy. My plant has lost all of its leaves of course, since it is not an evergreen. I know this is normal because a local nursery that also sells Gunnera told me that they had plants available, but that they were dormant at the time I was inquiring. I intend to plant it this spring in a bog garden because from my experience over the previous year, it consumes huge amounts of water during the summer even though our summers are not that hot as a norm (68-72 degrees).


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  • Posted by sita z7TX (My Page) on
    Wed, Feb 20, 02 at 9:46

Hello all,

I live in East Tx. where summer temperature averages around 110F (no kidding). Have been trying to grow Gunnera for the last 5 years with no good result. Have put it in the shade with a misting system, also in the greenhouse with enough heat and very high humidity. Somehow, these plant just seemed to collapse.

If you don't mind paying shipping charges a very good source is Midcity Nursery in California. This nursery has mailed me Gunnera from 1gal. to 15gal. size. The plants are all left in the pots so there is no tranpsplant shock, and always arrived without damage. The price is less than $10 for the gal. size. This is the phone# (707)-642-4167. The e-mail is: midcity@midcitynursery.com
I will try one more time next fall, maybe the 7th time is the magic number.


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Uncovered mine today in Wichita,Kansas,zone 6 and they have
started there spring growth already with stems and what looks like to be a leaf.


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answering a gunnera question posted earlier in this strain...... there are TONS of gunnera on ebay.....for a decent price, rare on ebay.....


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Hi! I just recieved bog-Magellanica, dry-Magellanica, Monoica, and Tinctoria. I live in the CA Bay Area hills. Any advice you might be willing to share, I would appreciate. Have you found they do better with partial shade from the high sun hours? Better in the ground, or sucess in how large a pot? Deep water daily, drip constant, mist, grey water, standing water? Understandably, yet sadly, Herronswood sends no guide for growing sucess.
Good luck to all of you trying to grow gunnera's well, also.
bodi


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  • Posted by Bob_R z6 Ontario (My Page) on
    Fri, Mar 29, 02 at 14:07

Removed some of the cover from G. manicata and snuck a peek. Leaves have died back but the crown appears to be fine. Tucked it in again and will wait another couple of weeks before removing cover for good. Bob


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My cultivation instructions say:
Requires a damp humus rich soil in a sunny postion or semi-shade sheltered from strong winds. The roots are tender, surviving to about 15*F and requiring some protection in colder cliates. This can be achieved by piling plants own dying leaves around crown.

Hope that helps.....just remember to keep them 'wet'


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I planted the four different kinds in one aquarium so I may look, watch and learn a bit more before I put them in the ground. They took off immediately, the new leaves are fast and BEAUTIFUL! They do seem forgiving and deep seeking for water. And WHAT FUN! Amazing, delightful plants! bodi


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Hello All. Despite a non-green winter the Gunnera is BACK! 3 leaves..each larger than any one last year..I applied a 12 inch mulch around the sloping base of the mound. After removing the pine boughs that acted as winter protection I noticed a startling array of new hungry roots barely 2 inches beneath the compost and finely shredded wood clippings. A careful peak inside and the crown..though a bit browned from winter is twice the size it was last year. I have hopes for my "Audrey II" !!


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Ok, you guys are in trouble now!! I just accidentally clicked the Brugmansia forum a couple of weeks ago and fell in love with them...had to buy some...had to trade for some...now I am at it again. I accidentally clicked here and have been looking around the net for gunnera. These things are awesome!! I have one coming from an internet supplier on Monday. I hope I can grow it here in middle TN, because I have fallen in love yet again!!


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  • Posted by Bob_R z6 Ontario (My Page) on
    Mon, Apr 15, 02 at 1:58

Go to the link for the first of 4 images showing the layers of protection that I used to overwinter a young G. manicata in the Toronto area. The plant probably didn't see any frost. Cheers, Bob.

Here is a link that might be useful: Gunnera - first of 4 images


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I have taken my Gunneras out of their cold cellar wintering, and they are back outside. We've been having a warm spring here in the mid-atlantic. Both look good for their rest, but have not yet started sending up alot of new leaves (although the crown is clearly full of new growth to come).

They will be planted in the next few weeks in a spot nicely shaded in the summer for coolness, but is against the house, so I can build their winter protection around the house for added protection. It is a spot at the bottom of the slope the house is built on, and I noted that moss grows abundantly here. As we are facing a drought again this year, I've fortified the soil with alot of peat (my soil is clayey), and am also going to use a generous helping of Soil Moist crystals. I'm on a well, so I can't safely water too often (I'm collecting rain from the roof run-off, too).

I'm very excited about trying these giants, and am also very pleased that this post is still going strong!

Let's keep each other informed about what's working, and what's not.


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We live in Vancouver, B.C. and mulch our Gunnera with a thick layer of leaves to overwinter. Our Gunnera is over 6 feet tall with leaves reaching 4 - 5 ft in width. Our friend Theo lives two blocks away and can't get his up over two feet. can you help him?


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  • Posted by Jroot 5B Ont. Canada (My Page) on
    Mon, Apr 15, 02 at 21:07

I have never had a gunnera, but have always been amazed by them. This year I am creating a tropical garden,- 3elephant ears, 8caladium, 2bananas, 6canna, 3brugmansia etc. I do have a spot that could possibly include a Gunnera. Before I invest in it though, I would like to know if:
1) Does it prefer sun, shade, or partial sun?

2) Is it a bog plant? Does it need moist soil, put water, or dry soil?

3) What is the root spread? I know that last year, my Datura sucked the life out of everything near it. I'm still going ahead with them this year though in a different location.

jroot@mgl.ca


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jroot, the Gunnera in your Ontario climate will prefer a full sun location, with the crown and roots in a moist environment, so a bog soil or pond environment would be optimum. Ours are rooted in very moist bog like soil next to our pond. However, on our last property, we had a huge gunnera located in the middle of the yard, in clay soil with full sun exposure. The trick to it's success, was heavy watering daily, as the soil was not moist.

Our experience with gunnera demonstrates that it does not leach from surrounding plants.
Mary-Ann


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  • Posted by Joyce Zone 7b LI, NY (My Page) on
    Wed, Apr 24, 02 at 20:49

I just bought my first Gunnera at eBay from Green Gate Nursery (Forest Grove, Oregon 97116), and it came today. It is a very nice sized plant, very healthy with quite a few large leaves! Laura Higgins was my contact at Green Gate Nursery and she was extremely knowledgeable and helpful with my Gunnera. She has emailed me several times with concern about shipping and planting instructions. Laura Higgins and Green Gate nursery get the highest rating from me! They are the best!


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As a novice, having bought a house from a landscaper, I have two healthy Gunneras in my garden. I was told the plants survived the British Columbia winter without any mulch etc. for protection, and they are growing very nicely. The plants have been ignored for a month by the time I moved in, and I have put a hose on them for a constant, albeit trickling water source. In one week, one of the plants have gained four inches in height and the leaves spread from 16 inches to 22 inches. Obviously loves water.

The location of the plant is shade from early morning to about 11 am after which they are in full direct sunlight until dusk. The soil is your basic rock garden clay. Go figure. Everyone says that it needs better soil. No fertilizer either, and the deer avoid it.

This garden I inherited is a botanical paradise. I still have to discover what the names of some of the plants are, but some smell like licorice and look like dillweed, while the lavender is totally recognizable.

When I have seed from these plants, I will offer them to you free of charge. I think there are too few of these "dinosaur" plants in the world, to begin with.


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Audrey II is sending me a splendid spring promise. Her 1st and 2nd leaf are about 2' in width..with about 4 newbies a'comin..not bad for a year old plant. I noticed she's producing a flower cone at the base. There was an English web site encouraging to remove the flower for a more dramatic leaf span (in terms of width and growth) ANY COMMENTS? As a side note I notice in the evening her leaves are more upright than during the day..Is Gunnera susceptible to aphids or any kind of garden pest besides the slugs..which I keep tidily in my gunnera "beer garden" ?


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Hi garill,
The dill leaf looking plant that smells like licorice is probably fennel. The link below is of a green one, but there is also bronze colored one.
cheers,
Jim

Here is a link that might be useful: Fennel picture


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Hi, I cast (in concrete) a gunnera leaf 5 ft in width a couple of years ago. It broke when I turned it over, but no problem it became a bench back and garden ornament. The place where I got the leaf was a small rambler. The owner said he had the plant for a bout 7 years. The plant was over 15 ft tall and as wide. The leaves were of varying sizes....2ft to over 5ft. He said he did not remove any blooms, but did make sure the plant has plenty of mulch and food with lots of water daily. here is a link to my webshots with the gunnera back bench. My own gunnera is doing well this year (3rd year) and have managed to get a couple of 2ft casts. It is an awesome plant, only wish I had a bigger place to grow it.

Here is a link that might be useful: behind the fence


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I recently bought a Gunnera and I live in southwest Oregon. Our winters are in the low to mid 20's and the summers are quite hot and dry. I was going to plant it under my Cedar tree but the man at the nursery said not to. I only have 2 other places that receive afternoon shade and that is beside a large lilac bush and near a black walnut tree. Is it ok to plant it in one of those locations. I will be adding lots of compost and rich top soil to the area. HELP???


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Well, momandnanaof11, my advice to you is WATER, WATER, WATER. My Gunnera is now about 5'9", about a year and a half old, and doing quite well...HOWEVER, I baby the monster. Good job on compost and nutrients to the soil..I might advise some shade to yours. More than sun, they need fertile soil and LOTS of water. If your climate is hot and dry, a sheltered position with plenty of feeding (not to mention overhead watering during long hot days) may be your only hope. In Portland we receive quite a bit of rain, but I still drench my lady at least 3x a week. Remember, before frost hits, cut off any leaves that haven't browned and cover that crown, as it is tender to frost, susceptible to severe damage thru wind, and will not smile in a dry, arid environment. GOOD LUCK!


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jeffOR-
Our Gunnera is a little smaller than yours but it has its oun room in the form of a dome greenhouse. Seem to love it.


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I live in Kentucky and tried to germinate Gunnera seeds this Spring. I didn't get any to sprout but I think it was because I mixed in some regular soil and sand with my sterile starting mix. I plan on purchasing a plant online and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for growing it in the bluegrass state. I have a small ditch/creek in the back of my yard and I want to plant the Gunnera beside it. The area is shaded by a canopy of trees and the soil has a very high clay content. I was going to enrich the soil with compost and feed with osmocote as well as cover it in the winter. How large should the protection be around it?


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  • Posted by Bob_R z6 Ontario (My Page) on
    Wed, Jul 24, 02 at 0:46

I've posted an image of my Gunnera manicata taken on July 3rd. After several weeks of doing little, it's recently started to grow again. Cheers, Bob.

Here is a link that might be useful: Gunnera manicata


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I know this is an old post, But I was wondering if I could get it started again. I was wondering how everyone's plants made out thru the winter and how they are doing now, especially the plants that are in zones 6/7. I have some seeds of g manicata that I plan on starting in March so any advice any of you could give me about starting growing and storing this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Gina


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Akebono here, reporting that my Gunnera has been given an honorful burial in the compost.

The drought made it a very bad year to establish a Gunnera in the mid-Atlantic, and I'm actually relived not seeing its great wilted foliage.

RIP


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  • Posted by Bob_R z6 Ontario (My Page) on
    Tue, Aug 27, 02 at 0:36

Sorry to hear that Akebono. My plant was doing fairly well; then a couple of weeks ago, some animal grazed on half of the leaf stems, ate through part way, and the leaves dried up shortly thereafter. New growth is emerging, and this time I'll take preventative action and spray the stems and crown with Skoot (an animal repellant). Will let you know whether or not it does the trick. Cheers, Bob.


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piretta2 have you found any gunnera? i'm looking for fall
planting


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If I start Gunnera from seed, can I start now (sept) and leave the pots indoors like a house plant till spring?


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Hi folks, my name is Ian and I live in sw missouri and have finally aquired a beautifull g. manicata thanks to Laura at Greengate Nursery out west. I am rather gun shy about overwintering my 'lady' here in zone 6. I have decided to bring her indoors for her first wintering as she is not too tall yet, (aprox 16") She has several healthy looking leaves and what apears to be a second crown. Can anyone out there avdise me pro or con on keeping such a plant indoors thru the winter in sw mo? Many thanks, Ian


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sonoayr it looks like the people with success arn't interested in an old thread try starting a new one
with an attention getting (subject of posting) comment
i have started one that has survived the drought but
i don't have the experiance that we need to try indoors


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  • Posted by nenna z7 OR Pacific N (My Page) on
    Wed, Oct 23, 02 at 10:49

Hi, I thought I'd give my 2 cents' worth regarding my Gunnera. My 2 year old plant came through the winter OK here in Portland, OR, where we can get very cold, strong winds. DO NOT use the leaves as winter mulch as some books recommend; they turn mushy in the rain. Fir boughs worked great once I got the mushy stuff off. My plant did great in full sun in a man-made "bog" (I buried a 6' plastic kiddie pool, and filled it with soil) which I keep moist throughout the summer. I cast some of the leaves, which looked great (warning: lift with your knees when lifting those huge castings; I did my back in by not doing that).


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I've been wanting a gunnera manicata for some time. I was wondering if they can be grown in pot of pea gravel pebbles, with the growing medium submerged in my pond. i would feed it aquatic fertilizer tablets more often than a pot with soil. i would hope that the roots being in water with plenty of nutrients would make for a healthy plant, as many of the plants that people in the pond forum plant sometimes. i hope to get some feedback on this idea. has anyone tried growing a gunnera in water?


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  • Posted by Bob_R z6 Ontario (My Page) on
    Sat, Nov 2, 02 at 0:12

jhtucker asked whether I had posted an updated image of my gunnera. Just did it. Cheers, Bob

Here is a link that might be useful: new gunnera image in my journal


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We live in zone 8 in Oregon. We have a gunnera that has survived well in a bog garden for three years. In the fall we trim all the leaves off. We make a 3' high circle of chicken wire to make a corral around the fleshy crown. We fill this wire corral with raked leaves from our yard. We then place the old gunnera leaves like a roof over the top. In the spring the gunnera will start poking it shoots up through this leaf mulch and after the threat of frost is gone we remove this protection.


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How did your gunneras do this winter? Did any survive in atlantic z 7?


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Will a gunnera grow successfully in the pond? Bare root or potted in soil?


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FROM THE HORSES MOUTH....a tour guy/employee from Heronswood is interested in my older daughter...this is what he had to say about the 30+ plants he takes care of: You can plant them in shade or sun, but they won't reach the maximum size in the sun. Best location is bright shade the idea is to make them reach for the light. They will grow taller and have more leaf surface in the shade. They are from South and central America. Growing on hillsides above wet areas. Growing them on a mound but allowing the roots free access to the water source (they need a lot)is what they like best. Overwintering: You MUST put the plant to bed before it gets too cold out! This is were most mistakes are made! If the plant get too cold it will drop it's own leaves...That's BAD! It will then die or you will have problems with it for the whole next year! Timing is everything.
Bed time: Cut all the stalks off and cover the crown with a mound of non toxic saw dust. Then cut the leaves off the stalks and cover the mound, this will provide the right humidity and rain protection during the winter, and I imagine when it's ready to go again it will lift the leaves to let you know! If he's still around this fall I'll have him help me and I'll post again.


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My husband and I moved into a home on an acre out in the country..... just outside Victoria,B.C.Canada. To our surprise last Spring was this giant Gunnera growing in our front lawn! Looked up on Gunners's and we cut back the leaves and covered with mulch for the winter. Early Spring it was uncovered and now stands at 12 feet high, branching out over 8 feet wide, with leaves spreading 4 to 5 feet in width!
Love this plant! Can anyone tell me how and where to collect seeds off of this giant?


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Hello Gloria388: I cannot give you the complete run down, but I can tell you where I'm at.... I've heard that you need to save the cone to dry 1 year, which I have done. The little bit of info I have is that the seeds themselves are the size of the ball in a ball point pen. After you locate the seeds, you then have to split the casing on this small seed, then and only then will it sprout for you.
I have torn apart the whole cone since dry and dont see any seeds..... Could someone shed some light on this subject for the two of us, I would really like to be able to germinate these mamoths.
Any help would be great folks.

Happy gardening
Glenn


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Hi, I live in Graham WA and have a Gunnera plant I bought last year. I would like to know if I can plant it now or in the fall or do I have to wait until next spring? Thanks much.


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Bluebutterfly: Personally I would wait until the spring. Your most likely going to have to chop it down for the winter. I usually take mine down in late Sept, that way there is no chance of frost to the crown, which could harm it. If put in next spring, it will have the whole season to settle in before the winter covering. You could however , chop it this fall and bury it in I suppose, but I would not chance it in the heat of the summer.
Hope that helps,

Glenn


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Has anyone had to transplant a large Gunnera? I will be moving in the mid june and will be taking this plant wiith me when I go. I figure I will cut the larger leaves and stock off before removal, and be very careful with the smaller shoots while transporting to the new location. I'm curious if anyone out there has tackled this before? I'm sure it will be a tad difficult... It will be going from an ideal sun/shade location, to a sunny location so I hope June tends to be a relatively cool one to help ease things along.


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Has anyone had to transplant a large Gunnera? I will be moving in the mid june and will be taking this plant wiith me when I go. I figure I will cut the larger leaves and stock off before removal, and be very careful with the smaller shoots while transporting to the new location. I'm curious if anyone out there has tackled this before? I'm sure it will be a tad difficult... It will be going from an ideal sun/shade location, to a sunny location so I hope June tends to be a relatively cool one to help ease things along.


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Dig deep, Lift with your legs;-). They are very resilient, just don't let it dry out when you move it. Wrap it in wet burlap. You can divide off the smaller shoots and root them in pots.

Here is a link that might be useful: My gunnera


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Somebody please help!
I planted a gunnera manicata about a month ago, and several of the leaves are starting to turn crispy, dry and white! It looks serious.

I have planted it in a spot where it gets direct sun for a few hours per day, then shade the rest of the day. I water it almost every day for about 20 minutes per session.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

-Matt
gilhouse


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Quit watering it so much! While they grow at water's edge in their native habitat, they do not grow in the water. They require well-drained soil. You may be drowning it.


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I bought an excellent specimen of Gunnera and I am ready to plant it in the ground. I would like some advice before I proceed. I live in Los Angeles.

P.S. For those interested in a weird or very exotic tropical tree, I have some specimens of ice cream bean tree, otherwise known as Inga Edulis. I would like to trade for other exotics. Write back if interested.


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Follow the directions from JeffreyOR, Dirtylady and others and you will be fine. I wouldn't even bother with the seeds as this plant creates a lot of babies which you can basically just peel off and plant. MAKE SURE TO CUT OFF THE LEAVES IN THE FALL and put it to bed as described above. It can get really sun-burned so keep it away from strong sun during the day. Mine is in shade in the am and only gets late afternoon sun. I cut off a lot of leaves during the season as well because I make castings.

The trick is lots of water and organic matter. They grow really fast. The mo's (animal's that is) really like them for the shade during the dog days of summer and cats like them for their hiding places. Kids would probably like them for the same reason. They could sit under them and play with their toy cars, read a book or just have some quiet time.

This is one of the oldest plants along with the Ginko tree known to mankind. Perhaps it was dinosaur food. Maybe that's why it grew so big and so fast.

Here's a picture of the first castiing I did of a leaf this spring. It is about 20" wide.

Dena, I absolutely love the work you do.


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I am getting to plant my gunnera. Question: If it is planted in a bog garden that is around 18" deep and lined with plastic, is that deep enough for the gunnera to grow to its maximum height and width? Or would it be better to plant it near the bog garden so that its roots can spread down or is that not a problem? Thanks.


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  • Posted by CAC0 8 OR (My Page) on
    Thu, Jul 8, 04 at 1:57

Thought I would revive this thread.

I I'm having a tinctoria vs. manicata race this season. Started with two very small specimens planted in the early spring. Manicata is allready about twice as massive, if somewhat shorter than the more erect tinctoria. Both are growing considerably faster than a very large manicata that I planted a few years ago. I planted both of theses new Gunneras in a heavily ammended with steer manure, well-draining 4' by 4' pit which is mounded up a couple feet in the middle. I dug a moat around the outside of these pits in my somewhat clay soil. These pits are filled with water on a daily basis. Both seem to love this technique. So, if you don't have a pond on your property, you might try this.

Must say the tinctoria is more attractive. Which of these two species do you all prefer?


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I'm curious if (any of) you have tried Gunnera as an aquatic plant, placing it directly into the water as you would a water lily or lotus? Think of the great shade it would offer the fish! I sure would like to try this.
Lil


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gunnera on long island, ny?

has any one had much luck growing gunnera on long island? i just planted 3 today. wish me luck


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Looking for Gunnera in Southern Ontario...
Any ideas where to find them??

Bruce in Windsor!


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these plants are hardier than i thought i made a bed for mine in an old claw foot tub. i used 2 parts peat to one part potting soil. it was doing well had nice leaves..then the black lab..the big chunky black lab..jumped in and had a dig fest. found my bulb a few days later, leaves gone and roots mostly torn off.. i was disgusted so i just stuck the bulb in pot with some soil and stuck it in a big tub with water for my water loving plants..this was late fall. well to my surprise i came out and new leaves are there and new roots. it has three new leaves and is doing well. it over wintered in the tub and made it. now i just have to lab proof it.


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To help on the "deer food situation" try this. Put stakes just outside "deer reach" of your plant. Then string fishing line about 2 feet from the ground. My dad did this next to his mums last year and the deer gave up. They evidently can't see the fishing line and get very annoyed at whatever that is that touches their leg when they get close. My dad has lost everything in the past to deer, but his mums were fine last year.

Deb in PA


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I ordered my gunnera from Spring Hill,haven't recieved it yet,I want to get the bed ready. I have a water filter that back washes every evening through a pipe that emptys into the yard. the plan is to channel the water into the gunnera bed to ensure a regular water source. The question is,how deep does the bed need to be, and what about winter, will the water in winter have an adverse effect on the planting?


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Hi, I'm living in the Paris Region (France) and I have 2 very big gunneras in my garden, near to a fish pond. I have had them for 8 yrs now and they've grown really huge. The leaves in Summer are 2 meters wide and grow at 3 meters over the ground ! but, caution ! you must absolutely protect the plants from cold weather in winter. What I do : around mid-November, just when temperatures reach zero (freezing), I cut the leaves, I cut the stems carefully at their base, then i put a lot of straw around andover the rest of the plant, I put the leaves flat on the straw, and finally I cover all of this with a sort of unwoven plastic that protects from cold and snow, but lets the air go thru.
We had temp as low as minus 15 and they are still OK. In March, when weather starts to be sunny again, the stems and new leaves push under the protection and then I uncover the plants; I only remove the straw when there is no more risk of freeze.

Also, don't put gunneras into water or pond ! they only need normal watering, don't drown them ! they like to grow near a fishpond, and it makes nice shed to your fishes.

Good luck,
Marie-France


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Gunnera Chilensis care (Portland, OR)

Does best in partial shade. I used to grow a Manicata but lost it to rot, and I prefer the more upright and frilled smaller version, Gunnera chilensis because it doesn't flop around and therefore the leaves are easier to protect from rot, slugs, and juice-sucking insects. These plants are tough to kill since they fix all of their own nitrogen out of the soil using bacterial colonies in the stems. Mine is wind protected, under a heavily pruned magnolia tree in a peaty, acid soil with lots of leaf mold and organic matter--it loves magnolia leaves since they are quite acid. Alkaline lawn fertilizers are counterproductive as they will actually stunt the plant's growth and the excess nitrogen is wasted--I'll cover feeding in a moment. I used this soil to fill a 4' by 6' planting hole and lined it with impermeable pond lining material. When planting it is vital that the root crown is ABOVE the soil level and not allowed to sit in standing water or wet soil, as it will ROT. It can get wet but must be allowed to dry off.

The beast needs constant moisture and fertilizing. Miracle-Gro is a waste of money, and manure--while traditional--wasn't for me. I found that the best way is to use the Laguna 16-9-12 once-a-year fertilizer pond spikes recommended for aquatic plants like water lilies. They're ventilated plastic tubes with fertilizer crystals that feed for up to a year. I place three around the plant during the growing season and take them out before the first frost. More might be better as the plant grows; since they're time released it shouldn't pose a hazard. Less than $15 buys you three spikes that will last you two growing seasons--nothing to do but refill the bog and enjoy. Sometimes the spikes are hard to remove because the greedy roots try to cement them in place. Not a bad sign!

Before the first frost (Halloween for me) I cut the leaves and stems off cleanly and place them upside down over the root crown. A snap-together 1.5' section of large metal ducting or open-topped barrel section is placed around the crown and filled with leaves for winter insulation that will breathe but not blow away. Replace leaves as needed to keep your plant protected. This cylinder also helps keep squirrels out, who like to gnaw on the developing leaf stalks for a quick Spring food source. You may want to leave it on (minus leaf mold) until the new leaves are big and tall enough to fend for themselves.

After the last frost, uncover your beauty, add the spikes and water, and watch it grow! In the past two years my plant has doubled in size with no end in sight. I suppose I should water it more often. I will experiment this year with copper tape around the stems to control slug damage, since this is their favorite food by far. Overhead and underside spraying of the leaves helps to dislodge spit bugs and other insects that suck the juices and cause brown spots. Tobacco water or mild soaps can be quite effective, too. Have fun with this one and don't be afraid! They're a lot of fun and you'll want more than one. I sure do.


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I just bought a gunnera with 1 tiny leaf and a bud 3 weeks ago. It grows REALLY fast but the leaves have black dried tips and then the leaf slowly dies. There is new growth coming still but each new leaf has those black tips. Has anyone seen this?

I have it in a pot indoors. Am I giving it too much or not enough water? The greenhouse I got it from had it drenched. My soil is potting soil. Maybe this doesn't drain it well enough?

Please help. I don't want to lose this thing.

Here is a link that might be useful: My gunnera with leaf tips browning.


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Can anyone tell me if I should divide or how to divide a gunnera? We have a huge one with a main stump that is about 3 feet tall and 5 or 6 offshoots. Last summer we couldn't keep it watered enough and it started to brown. I was told by a neighbour to divide it or it will start to decline. Should I keep the oldest shoot and remove the rest or should I keep one of the newer shoots? Do I have to treat the cut parts in any way?


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Giant Plant Lover -

Sounds like a familiar problem! I received one last year in a trade (bareroot). I have babied it along ever since, and it is suffering. It sprouts leaves, which get the same spots as yours, curl up and die. I let it dry out fairly well, and it seemed to be doing better - odd, I thought....I then moved it in to my greenhouse thinking it would really take off, when actually it had the opposite effect...all the leaves shriveled up and died and now it really looks terrible. I am going to take it out of it's pot (I also used regular potting soil) and try another soil mixture. I'm at a loss at this point - if you've had any helpful hints, I'd sure love to hear them!

Thanks, and good luck!

Michele


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I'm on the Essex coast in the U.K. and inherited a Gunnera with the house I've just bought. It doesn't look as if the plant was covered in the winter, certainly it wasn't when we got here recently and although there is sign of some new growth from some of the stumps others are either shrunken, solid & brown - very "woody" or are quite "mushy" and equally unhealthy. Can I remove these apparently dead stumps and if so, how? I'd like to try to keep it but if possible and maybe nurse it back to health if I can.

Thanks.

David.


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Looking for Gunnera in Ontario....
Anyone see them please let me know.

I got seeds but I have not been successful ( even so they will take a long time to grow)


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I had a Gunnera in a big pot inside my GH for 3 years now. Every summer we move it outside, under a tree. It develops big leaves. This year a big cone is emerging. How long should I wait to cut it or how can I collect the seeds?

Once I tried to grow Gunneras from seeds (bought from a catalog) and NO ONE germinated! HELP! How is the germination process?

Thank you, you can email me at:

elenascape/at/aol/com

Elena (Sumner, WA)


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Success -- I found one at.... of course - Humber Nursery north of Toronto...

Putting it in the ground today - nice size - a bit pricey at 25.00 but it looks pretty heathy!

Now I need to get out the peatmoss....

Bruce


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I have just bought my first gunnera manicata and have noticed a flower spike with orange berry like growths on it with an approx. 5mm diameter. I opened one to find a very small reddish seedlike structure inside the flesh. Just to make sure, is that a gunnera seed?


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I live in southwestern Ontario and planted a gunnera last spring (2006) in my bog garden. It did fairly well over the course of the season, but then in early Fall some animal started chewing off the leaves, one by one, at the leaf stem - I'd go outside in the morning and find a leaf just lying beside the plant, chewed off. Eventually all the leaves were chewed off.

After the first frost I overwintered the plant by inverting a bucket of leaves over the crown. It seems to have done the trick, as I'm noticing new leaves forming around the crown. However, something is obviously attacking the crown and leaving little bits of crown around the plant, similar to the leaf attacks. I'm afraid whatever animal that discovered my gunnera last Fall is going to demolish it again this year, starting with the crown and continuing with the leaves if the plant survives this current onslaught.

Has anyone had a similar problem? The animal isn't eating the leaves, it just seems to want to prune the plant down. I live intown and know I don't get deer here. In general, aside from insect/slug damage, I don't get any noticeable animal damage in the garden, with the exception of the gunnera. It surprises me because it's such a prickly plant.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated!


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I was wondering if I could sink a small kids wading pool in the ground and put the soil back into the pool I dug out and plant the gunnera in the pool and keep the soil wet, would it make it here in South Mississippi? I could give it shade and water which it seems to love! I was going to do like a bog garden for it. I saw in the fine gardening magazine a bog garden so to speak and they used a short piece of PVC pile for like a dip stick thing to check to see when they needed to add water to the soil in the container. They put a wooden dowel rod in the piece of PVC pipe and buried the pipe in the soil as they filled the container back up with the soil. That way I could check the dip stick to see how low the level of the water was. I bought seed off Ebay last year and got them planted the other day. I put the cell packs into gallon ziplocks to keep them moist.


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Hi, this is a plant I have wanted for a long time however I have never seen it in any of the nurseries. I found a place in Colborn, Ontario which sells it and am planning on going in the later part of spring. I can't wait to give this beauty a try. Wayne


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Does anyone grow this in Georgia? I have a spot that is moist beside a creek where I hope it will do well.


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New leaves of 11? year old Gunneras, March 2008.

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Anyone have Gunnera sprouts or seeds they would be willing to share? Will trade for seedlings or plants I have.


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Trying to revive this thread! Especially since I just received my first Gunnera plant!
Now, I know they are not supposed to survive the winter in my zone,however, I do the cement leaf castings, and I figure that even if I get a few "baby" leaves this season, it will be worth it! I need an opinion though-I do not have any damp areas in my yard, I was thinking of taking an old plastic pond liner, burying it in the ground, and drilling holes in it about a third of the way from the bottom, so it will hold some water, filling with soil and planting in that. How do you think that will do?


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I live in N.W. Washington state and have a Gunners planted in a pot, sitting in a pond with about one inch of water covering its base. This is a spot with full sun and very warm this time of year. My problem is the leaves don't last more than a week before turning yellow and falling off. Luckily it keeps growing more, even though they are small.
Thank you for any suggestions. He needs help!


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Here's a rundown of best way to overwinter gunnera, got this from a local nursery (the best, Hughes Water Gardens in Tualatin, Oregon - outside Portland). Make a chicken wire circle screen around the plant, allow about a foot out from the plant crowns and if possible a foot above the plant (once the leaves have been cut off). Cut off the leaves, many folks use the leaves to cover the crowns from water but I use my leaves (leaf-casting). Once the leaves and stems are cut down and the wire fence is in place, dump your tree leaves into the circle and over the tops of the plants. I use maple leaves as I don't have to worry about creating a nursery for black walnuts, horse chestnuts, etc. (I have tons of garbage trees around). I load up the leaves and tuck them lightly in around the plant crowns. I continue tossing leaves on top until I have at least 6-12" on top of the crowns. I usually put some sort of wire mesh across the top just to make sure the leaves don't blow out. When I put the leaves on I don't use wet, mushy ones that are already heating up as a compost but allows some air in the batch. In the Spring, I can pull off a some of the top layer and the leaves of the plant will simply start pushing through all the maple leaves. When I know that frost is past, I pull back the maple leaves to allow the gunnera leaves to come through. I usually leave most of the maple leaves in the "pit" as they will continue to compost down. I've never had any problems with any kinds of bugs on this plant, at worst I get horse chestnuts falling and tearing the leaves (limited places to grow him) and too much hot afternoon sun. to handle both of those problem, I erect a tent around the plant with a type of shade tarp that shelters the plant through summer. As for ideal growing conditions, I sunk a huge plastic tub ito the ground (with a single small hole) and used half potting soil and half manuere on it. This way I can water the gunnera and he can sit in water and my trees don't suck it all up. they do love the water and while they have some resistance to cold (Ireland has a problem with these being invasive), it's just not an evergreen. I hope that info helps some folks. If well cared for, each year the plant will come back with slightly larger leaves so consider him an investment in your garden. great plants and thanks to Hughes for the writeup, mine have been doing great now going on 4 years! BTW, some plants I have bought before were really lame and didn't survive no matter what I did so the stock you purchase does make a difference. Don't get frustrated if you lose one and you did everything right.


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