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Tulip tree and caterpillar problems

AKA Liriodendron tulipifera

I've been able to raise tiger swallowtails and tulip tree moths on my tulip tree.

OTOH, I've tried raising cecropias and polys on it this year with zero success. Tulip tree is supposedly a host plant for both species but when I put numerous first instar cats on tulip tree leaves, they did not even nibble on it. I'd blame it on the early August leaves being tough but I raised late summer TSTs on it last year.

Anybody out there able to raise any thing besides TSTs and TT moths on tulip tree?

KC

Comments (7)

  • bananasinohio
    12 years ago

    Hi KC;
    My internet is back up! Happy day!

    I have never seen anything but tigers lay on our tulip tree in the house. The moths always prefer the sweetgum, maple, and or buckthorn (the fernleaf ornamental, not the invasive one. But who knows? That would be interesting if they ate glossy buckthorn.)Even though the sweetgum and tulip tree were right next to each other and we had tons of moths laying. I never saw one on the tulip tree.
    -Elisabeth

  • KC Clark - Zone 2012-6a OH
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    When you have a captive audience like that and the moths are ignoring the tulip tree, and then you add in my experience, I'm thinking I am growing a big tree just so I can raise a few tulip tree moths. Not a good use of my space.

    I'll probably run some experiments in May and June to see whether younger leaves make a difference.

  • susanlynne48
    12 years ago

    I have a Tulip Tree that I planted and is now about 5' tall. I also have a Wild Black Cherry (Prunus serotina) in a pot that is just as large.

    The Tigers here have only used the cherry tree, and I am not within the range of the Callosamia angulifera.

    I am seriously debating removal of the tree before it gets any larger.

    Susan

  • KC Clark - Zone 2012-6a OH
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    According to the HOSTS database, other lepidoptera to try include luna, promethea, sweetbay silk moth, and spicebush swallowtail. That said, I know Elisabeth's butterfly house has raised lunas and spicebush. Don't know about promethea. I'll probably give lunas a try next year if I'm still in the luna business (I had 3 more 2nd brood males eclose yesterday).

  • bananasinohio
    12 years ago

    We have lots of promethea. Again they mostly use the sweetgum. This is actually the first year they used the spicebush since I have been volunteering there. I got a picture of a spicebush swallowtail using the promethea's curled leaf cocoon as a hiding place. I thought that was pretty amazing. We were wondering if they maybe co-evolved that way.
    -Elisabeth

  • KC Clark - Zone 2012-6a OH
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    I have since put many lunas and prometheas on my tulip tree. All quickly died. I read about others raising both species on tulip tree so I'm left to wonder whether the problem is my tulip tree or the cats in my area don't like it. The tulip poplar weevils sure liked it this year. :(

    I did learn that gypsy moth cats don't like tulip trees when there was a local outbreak and the only trees left with leaves were the tulip trees.

  • MissSherry
    9 years ago

    Hmmm....it's all interesting, KC to know what tree leaves moth cats like and don't like. I can't speak for tulip trees, though, because I've only raised/found tiger swallowtails on it.

    Sherry

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