I have been unsuccessful making positive ID of either of these Echeveria. The one on the bottom was given to me about a month ago. The donor didn't have a clue, since it came from his stock plant without a name. The other, on the top, has been in my possession for about two years and I have beheaded it at least three times; the pictured head is third generation cutting. These may be the same. My thought is they might be E. 'Meridian', a Dick Wright hybrid. Thanks for reading and helping.

Howard

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