Welcome to the forum :) im sure someone will be along soon with lots of great advice for you :)

Nikki

Btw. what type of jade is this big stump?

It's better to root it in soil and not water - mist the stump, every now and then, until you see new growth on the stump, then you can give it sometimes sips.

I think that you'll need to let it dry and remove, if necessary, any mush that's there as the result of rooting such a large stump in water. Whatever damage there may be is easily repairable.

Water roots develop for water; soil roots develop for soil.
If you put the water roots in soil, they dry up or break. Essentially, you'll be rooting your cutting twice.

I definitely think the roots would have appeared if you'd waited.

As Jeff says above, watch for mush on that wet end.
And, of course, Welcome!

Josh

I forgot to mention, but Josh reminded me, welcome aboard.

Leave it out of water for a week - if the callous is still in good shape and not rotting, fine, root in a shallow pot with some soil. If not, you'll have to give it a new cut (to healthy tissue) and, for that size of stump, I'd put on a rooting hormone powder and let sit for another week before I put it into soil.

Yes, just mist the stump - there's no reason to water the soil until you see growth. After all, there are no roots, and watering the soil while the plant is rootless (and presumably the soil will stay wet, unless it's completely mineral and completely porous) will make it easy for the callous to rot.

As little soil as possible around/under the calloused stump - I'd say no more than 1/2". If you have a bulb pot (those pan-type ones that are wider than they are taller) it would be useful for this, and you can use rocks to stabilize it or a heavy load of top dressing. Once it's growing you can easily transplant it to a for-growing pot from it's let's-get-rooted pot. Your suggested measurements might be good for when you have the plant in active growth and has been so for some time, but I wouldn't repot it in anything more than an inch of soil around the root ball, but that's just me - depending on when you water and what kind of soil it's in, it might grow faster for you.

BTW, if you can give it bottom heat when you root the stump, this will speed up the rooting process most efficiently.

Roots and branches grow from the nodes (those distinct rings or bands).
If below soil, the nodes grow roots - if above soil, the nodes grow branches.
Occasionally, you'll have roots emerge from a damaged/dehydrated node
above soil; and often you'll have branches/stems emerge from just below the soil.

The roots do not grow evenly all the way around the base.
You end up with root-clumps that grow from different nodes below the soil.

As above, so below. Now that there are roots, the stump will be able to leaf out.
The new growth will emerge from the edges of the nodes nearest the scar. Usually,
you'll get two branches per node, on opposite sides of the scar.

A stump as large as yours could take between 2 - 4 months to show top growth. Be patient.
I'm betting you'll have evidence of growth by next month at the latest....since we're heading
into some of the absolute best Crassula ovata growing weather.

Josh

This was a cutting that I rooted last Spring and Summer.
In December, it was frozen to mush to about two inches above the soil-line.
You can see (at my thumb) there is a green branch growing upwards, and a root-clump
growing downwards from the same node. What I did was simply cut off those roots
and then raise the whole stump by about an inch. This encouraged even more branches
to emerge from the exposed nodes.

Crassula ovata is vigorous.
This growth is all new from this year. Given time, even this large scar will disappear.

Josh

There will be more branches eventually.
They don't grow out all at once.

The more light that hits the trunk, the more likely a new branch will emerge.
Thanks for the update!


Josh

Mike

It's looking good. As Josh said, there will be more, but it takes an awful lot of energy for this cutting to produce leaves, IMO, because it doesn't have lots of leaves for photosynthesis to take place; ergo, the leaves that do come out, they'll take longer than your average Crassula to grow.

How do you find that on eBay? I just did a few searches for 'jade plant stumps'...'jade plant cuttings', etc. and came up empty...

Thanks.

Tom

I have never seen one like that stump on ebay.. i'd say very lucky fluke. lol..

Congrats on it's rooting and new growth Mike, I'm looking forward to seeing more progress on it.
What an amazing find!
JoJo

Mike

Don't worry, there will be more growth eventually.
It's just a matter of time and season. As the sun's intensity begins to increase,
you should see some nodes beginning to activate.

Josh

I think once the warmer weather finally arives, watch out.

I see all that snow and let's hope we get the warmer temps soon.

Mike

I have found the jade stumps in the past searching "Jade stock". That was last summer when a seller was holding dutch auctions for lots of jade plant material.

Good Luck... Maybe just have to wait for the summer to search for this seller again.

-David

We have so many days with lack of sun, it's no wonder half of my family here is Vitamin D defficeint..lol
I would say the amount of sun between the lack of hours of it and then the constant clouds and snowy weather, gives us barley any at all, if we are lucky. I think they appreciate 8 hours of constant light than unreliable sunny days.

Looks like that finally, more than one day in a row will be sunny. But as you, I also put mine under lights to carry them through the winter. They seem to LOVE the lights better than a south facing window with such little sun anyway.

When will you shut the lights off and then where will you put them?

Take care and have a nice day.

Mike

Bringing that up hurts - I threw away hundreds of pounds, nay thousands, when I cleared out six 4-5' tall shrubs in the courtyard of my San Diego apartment. All of those thick, multi-branched trunks!

Gotta love these plants for sure! Good luck with yours and pray for an early spring. God knows we could use it. :-)
Your welcome.

If the thousands of words written by others have postively affected even just one C.o. owner's collection, well, by gosh, it's all been worth it.

I meant to say in another one of our posts on this subject that, given all the things that they need to grow (warmth, but not too warm / sunny / porous soil / air circulation / water, but not too much / if potted, a pot which doesn't fight those other conditions), these might very well grow year-around, or less accelerated, but winter in their homeland is when they grow best. So one tries to supply those habitat conditions, to a degree.

Here's an example of a Crassula ovata not quite getting what it needs: One of two remaining cuttings of Portland John's Crassula ovata cultivar not getting the independent / combined plant love which it needs, but getting by.

That Crassula isn't the only thing needing repotting.

Contact me privately via my handle if you're interested. I have some contacts in San Diego (where, as you know, huge jades are as common as jade questions here are) who may be able to supply you with what you're looking for. Your question offers me another opportunity to P&M about the 1000s of lbs. of C.o. that I tossed when I lived there, including stumps on the average of 36 cm in diameter and the bark pattern of a Galapagos tortoise's back - if I knew then what I know now I'd have started a stump farm (I wouldn't mind a stump myself).

And a good morning to you.

If the seller in CA says it roots well in water, I suggest you do not purchase from him/her - they don't know what they're talking about.

Advice - it could take months / weeks, depending on your conditions, mostly. Ideal rooting conditions would no doubt accelerate the rooting (things like constant ambient warmth, a heat mat, etc), but it's dependent on conditions / size.

You can start the rooting process a few days after it's been cut. Just don't water it (mist it only) until growth is evident.

I'm sure there's a word for someone who is ignorant and condescends at the same time, but I don't know it.

The best advice I can give you, assuming all the rot is gone, is to not water - more plants have been killed. As long as the rot's on top, and not at the rooting area, you should be fine. If you haven't rooted it yet, and still need to do some cutting in the rooting area, I'd also get some Rootone and use it there.

BTW, what selling place did you buy it from? I'm assuming you can leave some feedback there - I hope you do. I'd give him a piece of my mind, but that's all I have, so let him know how he didn't listen to you.

I paid $16.00 for two plus $!0 in shipping. I think its a good deal for stumps which are 10" in height and 4" in diameter. Thanks for the advice,always helpful
Inna

A dry jade can withstand weeks (maybe even months) left standing up dry & bare (no mix) in a clay pot. No cracks, split my foot, I wouldn't buy from this guy again. I've never known anyone who knew succulents to wrap moist toweling on them -- what a dork!!

You're most welcome about the cinnamon tip, think thanks to the Orchid growers from whom I learned it.

But moist paper towels. Come on.

I'm in full agreement with you - that seems a fair price for what you're getting, and if it's what you wanted, that's even better.

I think of the trunks 8-10" wide that I threw away with abandon (and some flair, I'll have you know - I wouldn't queer any pitch with my delivery of a 20 lb. trunk into the dumpster)...well, it's almost enough for me to go sobbing into one of the many snowbanks we've developed today.

When I do go back to SD sometime, I'm getting a hunk from the GWOJWKL, a real piece from the true cross, and I hope to be able to tell you that a stump resides with me, and you'll be giving me pointers on how to root it.

Inna, a good price for sure. Stumps aren't easy to come by.

Josh

Jeff: this Jade is Magnificent. i was in San Diego many years ago,but unfortunately I wasn't into Jades,so I didn't pay proper respect. I wish I'd go now

Inna - I believe I've been scouting the same ebay seller as you. I've been reluctant to order from this person but if stumps are hard to come by I might be willing to try! However, being as he's so misinformed I may not . . .

~Erin~

~Erin~

Josh