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Echeveria(?) ID

Good morning, GardenWebbers!

I have an ID for you, and I'm sure it shouldn't prove too difficult, since this type of

"Hen and Chick" is very common (at least it is around here). Anyhow, this is a friend's

plant. He just moved from a mild weathered 1,200 foot elevation area to a cold 2,400 foot

elevation property. I keep telling him the plant is going to freeze during the winter....

Hopefully you can help us out. It looks like an Echeveria to me, but I've been wrong before!

Much appreciated!

{{gwi:610035}}

Comments (20)

  • paracelsus
    12 years ago

    Echeveria? Yes.

    Species: probably Echevera imbricata

    Do you have a flower pic?

  • paracelsus
    12 years ago

    All of my Echeveria, in pots and in the ground, survived 5 nights of temps in the mid-twenties F during the Great Freeze of 2007 without damage. I wouldn't worry too much unless temps stayed below freezing all day long.

  • cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
    12 years ago

    Brad,

    How is Josh's different from E. elegans?

    Thanks,

    Jeff

  • paracelsus
    12 years ago

    San Marcos Growers notes that imbricata is one if the hardiest Echeveria, citing hardiness to 20-25F. Mine have survived lows of 25F.

  • paracelsus
    12 years ago

    Jeff, imbricata is much larger than elegans, and the flower colors are different. E. elegans has red flowers with yellow tips, and imbricata sports pink flowers with yellow tips. I have them beside each in the ground, and the most obvious difference without flowers is rosette size. 'Imbricata' can have 10-12 inch diameter rosettes. Poking around a bit, I see that 'Imbricata' is a cultivar, not a species. It is E. glauca X E. gibbiflora 'Mettalica'.

  • paracelsus
    12 years ago

    I dropped a 0 and the page went to another plant altogether. Here is Echeveria 'Imbricata' at San Marcos Growers, I hope. :-)

  • greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Thanks, gentlemen!

    Brad, I don't have a flower pic, unfortunately.
    From memory, the flowers were indeed a pinkish color with yellow tips.
    E. 'Imbricata' (E. glauca x E. gibbiflora 'Mettalica') it shall be.

    Now...when best to plant some these out?


    Josh

  • cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
    12 years ago

    Josh,

    Now is a good time (trusting most of your hot weather has passed). Remember, in California there's no parking on the dance floor.

  • pirate_girl
    12 years ago

    I'd thought E. elegans as well.

    I'd love to see pix of the two mentioned side by side sometime pls. Para if that were possible.

    I just love the form of these rosettes, their proportion, spacing btwn the leaves, so cup-like, coming to the graceful point, it's just impeccable design by nature!

  • cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
    12 years ago

    Brad,

    I'd like to see those, too, if we may.

    Karen,

    I agree with you about the design - the stereotypical succulent rosette pulled off perfectly.

  • greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Jeff,
    August and September are two of our hottest months, now that the soil has been heated all summer.
    The red dirt is baked hard without a hope of rain 'til November. October might be good planting.

    I'm going to beg a chick for my own hen-housing...who knows, it might not totally freeze here?
    We only have a few nights a year when the temps drop below 20F....

    Karen, I've done a google image search to compare E. elegans and E. 'Imbricata.'
    The elegans has seemingly thick, chubby leaves. The 'Imbricata' has the thinner, sharper leaves
    and the perfect rosette. I'd have to say that the pic I posted matches better with 'Imbricata.'


    Josh

  • hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
    12 years ago

    It looks like imbricata more than elegans to me, but the flower will tell you for sure.

  • greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Indeed, pink flowers with yellow insides/tips....
    I'll post a pic tomorrow.

    Josh

  • greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    And here we have it....


    {{gwi:610036}}


    Josh

  • greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Now I have my own little chick rooted and growing....
    So far so good, outdoors without any protection from the cold. Good thing, too, since there's no room at the Inn.

    About two inches across....

    {{gwi:610037}}


    Josh

  • pirate_girl
    12 years ago

    Nice Josh,

    Such a handsome little fellow, perfection in rosette form.

    I wish I had enough sun to grow these here in NYC, but to date, my experience w/ Ech here (indoors only) is they get rather leggy.

    Oh well, I'll have to love yours from afar!

  • greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    Thanks, Karen!

    The friends who gave me this cutting have taken their pots indoors for the winter,
    whereas I've left this little chick outdoors. The plants at my friends' house are tall
    and leggy and looking absolutely awful. I think this'll convince them to plant outside.


    Josh

  • rosemariero
    10 years ago

    What a BEAUTIFUL plant, Josh!

    So, you never got an ID on it back in 2011? Looks like Echeveria 'Imbricata' to me.

  • greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Hehe, thanks Rosemarie! ;-)
    Yeah, I got the ID...I just didn't want to start a new Thread...although I ought to get the previous pics fixed for posterity!

    The next step will be rooting the chicks in the empty pockets to fill this strawberry pot. By next season, there's no reason we should be seeing any terra cotta at all!

    My buddy brought these indoors over the Winter...they took a couple frosts that did not agree well! Now they're back up to muster.

    My own cutting blew off the back deck in a storm, and I wasn't able to find where it went. So I'll be starting another soon.


    Josh