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Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on Mon, Oct 19, 09 at 12:45
| Some of the arms on my cholla are turning a sickly yellowish orange. Does anyone know the cause? I'm obviously doing something wrong. Thanks.
The first picture shows the problem up close. The second picture is of the whole plant.
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| Those plants look healthy to me. In my experience, chollas will drop some of their lower segments from time to time, just like any other plant sheds old leaves as it grows. |
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I have a very similar looking cholla that I purchased at a local supermarket and it does the same thing. I've taken one of the fallen arms and potted it and it rooted and is also growing now. Anyone have any ideas on what type of cholla it is? |
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- Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on
Sun, Dec 6, 09 at 12:25
| The arms of my cholla are continuing to turn black and fall off. I have no idea how to stop this from happening. I've brought it inside under grow lights as we've had a lot of wet and cold weather recently. Overall, the whole plant is a very unhealthy color. Any suggestions? 
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RE: cholla arms turning orange
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| The black is rot, probably from your cold and wet weather. You have to remove all the black, until you see only green tissue, or the rot will spread and the plant is doomed. If some whole segments are still green they can be removed and used as cuttings. Christopher |
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| Has it recently been transplanted? Are you growing it indoors, Does it have the right soil. Are you watering too much. If you say no to all of these qustions. Then it can just could have been too warm or too hot if you brought it into the house. It is definitely a native desert plant treat it like one. How long have you had it? Norma |
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- Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on
Sun, Dec 6, 09 at 14:46
| It hasn't recently been transplanted. I put it in that pot about a year and a half ago. It's been outside until recently. It started having this problem this summer. The photos above were taken in October. It's in a fast draining soil. With all those factors ruled out - must be the water. I try to be careful not to overwater but... There's something going on that it doesn't like. I've had it two years. It's kept at 70 degrees here in the house and is under grow lights used to keep a lime tree happy - very bright - last winter and now. We are just now having cold weather so it hasn't been inside long. Norma, please give me some suggestions. How much should it be watered in winter? What can I do to get it healthy again? |
RE: cholla arms turning orange/purple/black
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- Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on
Sun, Dec 6, 09 at 20:54
| Norma, would it help if I broke off the rotting pieces? Christopher, I'm not brave enough to perform surgery on it. |
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| I would, and also would return it to outside, soil will not work with this plant is needs very coarse sand that comes from a desert. When in Phoenix I saw them growing all over. You need desert pebbles about 1/4 to 1/8" in size, They can take the cold and snow, they do not like to be growing inside with heat on. What kind of soil do you have outside in your yard, or are you in an apartment. I know you all think I a nut case, but I've had professional training as well as 70 yrs of experience. They are SW desert plants, don't try to grow them inside, unless you think and know that you are an expert. We have 5-6 sheltered greenhouse at the Huntington, 2 large cacti houses, a another location that is protected overhead no heaters, we don't grow them there either. I don't know if we even have them in our 10+ acre cactus garden, I take my hints from the Huntington Gardens growing conditions. I hope you don't think I am trying to be mean here, I just want to share what I have learned, perhaps it may help others. Norma |
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| Christopher and Norma have given you some very good advice. I live in Tucson, Not far from Phoenix. They grow like weeds here in the worst sandy/soil (more sand than soil) you could imagine, with little to no organic material in it! We go for weeks on end with no rain. They are native and when used for landscape are never watered. We rarely get spring rain. Our monsoon season is July-sept. which is heavy and strong stroms with down pours. Then we go from Sept-Dec. with just a sprinkle or two. And once in awhile a winter rain. We have pretty mild winters as far as temps go. I hope this helps you to see a water patern. I'm not familer with the weather or temps where you are, but if your winters are cold and wet, it will need to be sheltered but not indoors. They are put in yards here and forgotten. As Norma stated, they take the cold and snow just fine. Is the pot they are in raised from the drip tray to keep it out of excess water? If you choose to break off the pieces instead of surgury, you can still cut off the rot and try and root them. What type of soil do you have it in? JoJo |
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- Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 7, 09 at 9:35
| I'm far from an expert! No claim to that whatsoever. After reading Norma's first sentence, I ran to put the cholla outside. We are having wet weather so it is in a dry sheltered spot but it is cool. The plant came Cottonwood, AZ, as pieces broken off from a plant in a friend's mother's front yard. It is in a gritty soil mix that I bought from someone in AZ off ebay. My other succulents seem to be happy with it. I buy other soil mixes for my different types of plants off ebay - where I pay more for shipping than the actual soil - so Norma if people think you are crazy - they must think I'm crazier. ;-) It's well worth the money to me. It was hard for me to find the ingredients to make my own. This is much easier. The cholla is in a clay pot with a fast draining mix. My part of Texas has had a lot of rain this year. It is not the usual weather for the area. The soil in my yard, I have a house, is a clay type. It's not suitable for succulents so they are all in pots. JoJo, thanks for the description of the natural habitat of these chollas. I never cared much for succulents before visiting Arizona. Now they are among my favorite plants. I appreciate the information that I pleaded for and am not offended. I need help. |
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txcactus, More than glad to share! This plant could easily go with just a little water once a month while the weather is cold. We've only had a few sprinkles since Sept! Now were down on rain fall and had a dry summer... But for fall this is the norm! I've been here 40 yrs.. so I know the rainfall..LOL! Can you describe the mix you got from ebay... Maybe someone here will have some suggestions. Just because it came from someone in AZ. doesn't mean they got it right. Peat for this plant is a big no no.. Like I said, little to no organic. I'm not comfortable suggesting a mix.. around here we would just dig up the front yard.. LOL! So hoping someone who knows a little more will come along. I've learned so much from this group!! I would trust here before ebay. You should be able to find things local. Belive it or not, alot comes from feed stores.. grit and pumice. Our old posts on soil mixes are missing at the moment. So maybe someone can see if what you have needs adjustments and suggest where to get it with out ebay. JoJo |
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- Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 7, 09 at 11:12
| Thanks JoJo. Here are some pictures of the plant and the mix it is in. I do not know what is in the mix. I've not lost any plants since I started using it.

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TXcactus, I think your soil and plant look fine! Maybe a bit "plump" for this time of year, but there is not black that I can see, except for the yellowed joint near the base in the second picture. If it's a Purple color you're referring to and not necessarily black, then the purple coloring may just be a normal response to the change of season. Does everyone agree? And can someone please tell me what type of Cholla this is? Does everyone agree? |
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| I do not agree. In the first of the pictures posted Dec. 7, I see black, and if the black is soft, it is rot and has to be removed immediately before the whole plant is lost. But that is just my opinion. Christopher |
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| I think the soil looks fine. Now, I haven't been around cholla in awhile, but I dont recall it turning purple due to weather change. monitors are diff. so I really cant say what color I see exactly.. but it kinda looks black to me. Christopher is right, if it's soft, something needs to be done. JoJo |
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- Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 7, 09 at 22:32
| The end was black and shriveled.
I cut it back to healthy green part after reading your posts. It has lost several smaller segments in that they turn black and just sort of fall off. You can see them in the first picture below. This was a larger piece. I hope it will callus over.

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RE: cholla arms turning orange
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Cactus (and other plants) turn color in response to changes in sunlight, or a change in the angle of the sun(seasonal), or to temperature (also seasonal). The Chemical that causes this is Anthocyanin. And the only part that looked bad to me was the part you cut off and I would have just left it alone as it was dying and not rotting, due to damage apparently. Txcactus, is this the same issue you were dealing with last year when you posted about your cholla turning purple? |
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| We had rain here in CA yesterday, then 4 days of rain predicted for the end of the week. My cholla in a small pot got rain yesterday. With the rain coming, should I take it out of the predicted 4 days of rain, or just let it be along with the other cactus I have? |
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| Sox, Cholla are pretty forgiving, and maybe anther day of rain is fine, especially if you have superiorly-draining soil, but if not, it wouldn't hurt to shelter it from the rains. |
Cylindropuntial Correction
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| A flowery phrase meaning what - I'm stuck with the stigma of not knowing. That should have been 'another day'. |
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| LOL... Very good Cactusmcharris! Thanks for the chuckle ;-) |
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- Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on
Thu, Dec 10, 09 at 7:39
| Actually, I'm not sure if the purple tinted coloring is related to the rotting or not. Some of the purplish colored arms are rotting and some are not. |
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| Can you post a picture of one of the rotting arms you're talking about? |
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- Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on
Thu, Dec 10, 09 at 14:07
| Thankfully I don't seem to have anymore right now. You can see several that have shriveled up and fell off in the second from the last picture above. They are with the arm that I cut the rot off of. They are small black looking ones in the right side of the picture. I have several that are a purplish color but are not shriveling - yet. I'm hoping they will stay on the plant. |
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| I don't think those are rotting. Chollas naturally lose arms. All my chollas drop the smaller side arms when they're small. The plant grows taller every year and some of the side arms stay on and some drop off. I wouldn't worry about it. Your plant looks fine. Just cut back on your watering... it's winter and they should go without water now. |
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- Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on
Fri, Dec 11, 09 at 22:37
| Thanks Paulzie. I'll take it easy on the water this winter. Looking on ahead to spring and summer, how much sun do your chollas get? |
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| They're on a balcony in pots and the sun is on them all day. The biggest problem I have is spidermites. If only I could find some Kelthane or something with Kelthane in it! |
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- Posted by txcactus 7b Dallas/Fort Worth (My Page) on
Sat, Dec 12, 09 at 13:37
| I have a problem with spider mites on them too. I put some insecticidal soap on them one day this week. It sort of keeps the spider mites under control. |
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