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please ID 2 cacti

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10 years ago

I have these cacti growing,and until recently thought they were the same plant.
I would like to make sure, as I am going to clone them.
The 1st pic -trunk started with 3 sides, then changed to 4 sides, while offshoots have 3 sides.

See followup link for 2nd pic, which is 3 sided all the way,and grows more upright,with smaller trunk.

Thanks, tinki.

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