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Is Dasylirion a succulent? I purchased two in summer. Both are potted in 4" clay pots.
1. Should they be potted in plastic?
Or if anyone has other information I'd appreciate your help. When I saw Dasylirion, the pic displayed a plant w/thick trunk. 4. Is it slow-growing? Thanks, Toni
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- Posted by cactusmcharris 4 / Interior BC (My Page) on Tue, Nov 8, 11 at 11:48
| Yes 1) They can be - as long as your care is correct, the type of pot doesn't really matter, but care is influenced by the type of pot it's in 2) Full is best 3) Not now it shouldn't That's what old ones look like 4) It can be, if it's not in ideal conditions They're primarily desert plants, Toni - any environment less than that impedes its growth. |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Tue, Nov 8, 11 at 11:51
| Jeff, Wow, that was quick, lol! Desert plant, so they should dry out thoroughly. I fear since it's so young, and soil dries too much, completely, within 2 days, it will die. Silly, right? Full, is difficult, and will be the next 3 months. Boy, do I pick them... Thanks much. Toni |
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- Posted by cactusmcharris 4 / Interior BC (My Page) on Tue, Nov 8, 11 at 11:56
| Toni, No, not silly, especially with small plants, which can take less benign neglect than the adults. And I think the plant you have is Dasylirion acrotrichum. |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Tue, Nov 8, 11 at 12:27
| Jeff, that's the reason I asked if they should be potted in plastic instead of clay.. The soil may be too well-draining. Thanks for the correction. Acrotriche is written on the label. Not that I'll ever rememeber, lol. |
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| Here, they are a lot like Yucca as far as cultivation and growth. If drainage is sharp and conditions are sunny they will take lots of water. |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Tue, Nov 8, 11 at 14:00
| Hoovb..would you say it needs cooler temps? Thanks, Toni |
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| I don't have cooler temps, if "cooler" means below 50F, so I'd say no. |
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- Posted by wantonamara 8bTx (My Page) on Thu, Nov 10, 11 at 21:37
| It will take most heat that Texas can through at it. It might need a bit of water to get established and an occasional deep watering in the summer if you get brutal heat otherwise it probably will be fine. I plant mine NOT in pots but out in the ground and what terrible ground it is. It got up to 112 this summer more than once and we had 70 days above 100. I think I watered it once. |
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- Posted by cactusmcharris 4 / Interior BC (My Page) on Fri, Nov 11, 11 at 15:43
| Toni, you can see how big Dasylirion wheelerii can get - this one had been irrigated. Surprising that its roots are relatively short and not spreading, completely unlike a Yucca (man, they can be a major PITA to remove from the earth!). This one's been rescued by Friend John and has been replanted in his yard. And here it gets some final touches by Friend Susan - notice how fearlessly she approaches major C&S relocation. |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Fri, Nov 11, 11 at 16:13
| Mara...Great idea. Next spring, or once frost is gone, one out of the two will go in the garden. Should it get direct sun or partial shade? Most summers get hot..near 100F at times. Jeff, now those are HUGE succulents. Question. Is the bottom roots or a trunk? The nursery I bought Dasylirions display pics of much smaller plants than the two you posted. The Dasylirions have small trunks. |
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- Posted by cactusmcharris 4 / Interior BC (My Page) on Fri, Nov 11, 11 at 18:20
| Both - the stem is the trunk and on the bottom of the stem are the roots. We're talkin' Sonoran Desert plants. I'm told if you don't shave off its beard of old leaves they become a haven for scorpions, spiders and snakes, oh my. |
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- Posted by wantonamara 8bTx (My Page) on Fri, Nov 11, 11 at 22:12
| Nice Dasylirions. I did not know that about the size of their roots. Learn something new hanging around here . I need to go out and cut off the old leaves on my Y. faxiona tomorrow. I almost did it today, but I could not find my goggles. I had not thought about scorpions, Thankyou, I will get my gloves on too. Another thing learned....HMMMMM. I am like your friend in that I wear minimal clothes for major activity. People have to wag their fingers at me and shame me into taking care of myself. I have some new floaters in my eyes because of not wearing googles while chainsawing Mountain ashe cedar thickets. The Dasylirion can take any sun you have , "It gets almost up to 100"....thats cool in my book. But I guess a tad shade is not going to hurt. |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Sat, Nov 12, 11 at 11:43
| Jeff, oh YUCK. Don't think we have to worry about Scorpions or snakes, but SPIDERS!!!!! I hate Spiders. Is there any particular spider Dasylirions attract? Sheesh. Mara, since you're in CA, you probably have to worry more about Arachnoids, snakes, 'poisonious??' and Scorpions. Or does location in CA make a difference? According to Wiki, "Scorpions are found widely distributed over all continents, except Antarctica.." Still, unless a Scorpion/snake hitch-hikes on a plant shipped from (Scorpion/Snake states,) lol, don't think they're hanging around IL. God, I hope not! Mara, maybe you'd best wear safety clothing. I'm in IL and wear thick gloves when working outside..'mostly because of spiders,' but I do NOT want a creepy-crawler walking/falling on me. We get some big suckers here..thick bodied and legged. Plus, Recluse and Black Widows are around. So, please be careful. Jeff, I probably won't be on earth when my Dasy is 1/4 that size. lol. Even if planted in-ground during summer months. Thanks for the heads-up, Toni |
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- Posted by wantonamara 8bTx (My Page) on Sat, Nov 12, 11 at 12:36
| SEE, I am being shamed to take care of myself again. God, I know I need it. We have gobs of scorpions around here. I have been tagged before. Black widows, recluses, snakes. It's Texas. if it has fangs, it is here. |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Sat, Nov 12, 11 at 14:00
| Mara, I didn't know you lived in TX. A friend went to TX years ago. In their hotel room was a Scorpion, sitting on one of the beds. lol. People born and raised in Chicago don't expect seeing strange creepy-crawlers on a bed, lol. Guess, we're wimps. You'd best take care of yourself. I thought when stung by a Scorpion, immediate care, 'ER' is needed? Toni |
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- Posted by wantonamara 8bTx (My Page) on Sat, Nov 12, 11 at 21:15
| I hadn't seen a scorpion in my house. A friend of mine was visiting from Portland Maine and she found one in the shower. Scorpions come in twos or so the myth goes. I was looking for the other one so it wouldn't freak her out, AGAIN. She found it the next day while brushing her teeth in the bathroom sink. I guess the two climbed up the greywater system drain. I have not seen a scorpion inside the house since. She won't come back. I built my house high on stilts and I caulked the hell out of it to keep them out because they are everywhere outside. Our scorpions are like a bee sting....maybe a bit more painful immediately but actually less swelling. I did feel a bit high after one sting when I was loading large limestone rock. I think that got me more because I was exerting myself and the poison went from my heart into my brain very quickly. The high lasted about 10 minutes. The bark scorpion of Arizona is worse. |
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- Posted by hopefulauthor z5IL (hopefulauthor@sbcglobal.net) on Sun, Nov 13, 11 at 12:00
| Mara, your poor friend. She probably jumped away from your shower so fast she didn't know what hit her. lol. Why twos? Spouses, siblings, b/f and g/f? lol. I thought/heard a Scorpion bite is fatal? High in which way? lol. Thank God you're not allergic. Or does it matter? 2 summers ago, a family of bees were living in one of my house plants pots. I had no idea. I keep small plants in window boxes on our picnic table..'no room to eat, lol.' Anyway, some of the boxes don't/didn't have drainage and filled up after heavy rains. I tilted one box over, the water landed in the pot w/the bees. Everything happened so fast. For some reason I assumed a huge, spider bit my leg. I started screaming, 'knock off the spider.' My dh didn't know what I was talking about, until he saw the bees. Those darn bees left the pot to attack me.. After a little time passed, one paramedic said, since the stings happened more than 15 mins earlier, I wasn't going to go in shock..what I was experiencing was a PA. God, I was scared..So you can imagine what would happen if a Scorpion stung me. lol.. Still Mara, be careful. You're around a lot of outdoor stuff. Loading limestone rock? I assume you were female? Not that females aren't as strong as men, lol...Toni |
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- Posted by cactusmcharris 4 / Interior BC (My Page) on Sun, Nov 13, 11 at 13:24
| 'I assume you were female' Well, you figure that extreme form of cultural diversity has to eventually arrive even here, right? Toni, Mara's still a female limestone miner who holds the record for hefting top dressing in 100F temps. She's well encouraged to use all safety equipment when she mines or fells some trees. And scorpions aren't often fatal (unless you're compromised somehow anyway) but they can be very painful. |
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